Finish the week strong with your Friday martinis! Join Jim and Greg as they discuss the roster of President Trump’s impeachment defense team, including former independent counsel Ken Starr and famed defense attorney Alan Dershowitz. They also roll their eyes as Arizona Sen. Martha McSally tries to fundraise off of calling CNN reporter Manu Raju a “liberal hack” and CNN goes into full martyr mode to pretend McSally committed some sort of grave assault on the first amendment. And they get a kick out of Politico reporting that many Democrats are just now realizing that Joe Biden is not going to implode before the caucuses and primaries begin.

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  1. Arahant Member

    I like the idea of Sanders’ going all in to get Biden testifying for weeks or months.

    • #1
    • January 17, 2020, at 11:50 AM PST
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  2. Gary Robbins Reagan

    I decided to contribute $50 every time McSally said something offensive about this issue. She wants to sell tee-shirts and she went on Fox News Channel about this.

    I have contributed $250 in the last 24 hours. If McSally keeps it up, I will keep it up.

    If Biden is nominated, Trump will lose Arizona. I think that Biden would win AZ, FL, MI, NC, OH, PA, and WI over Trump.

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    • January 17, 2020, at 1:48 PM PST
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  3. kedavis Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I decided to contribute $50 every time McSally said something offensive about this issue. She wants to sell tee-shirts and she went on Fox News Channel about this.

    I have contributed $250 in the last 24 hours. If McSally keeps it up, I will keep it up.

    If Biden is nominated, Trump will lose Arizona. I think that Biden would win AZ, FL, MI, NC, OH, PA, and WI over Trump.

    Contribute to who, or what?

    Are you now betting against your Klobuchar-Buttigieg prediction?

    • #3
    • January 17, 2020, at 2:32 PM PST
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  4. kedavis Member

    Ricochet Audio Network: And they get a kick out of Politico reporting that many Democrats are just now realizing that Joe Biden is not going to implode before the caucuses and primaries begin.

    Biden has imploded several times, but the media keeps propping him up. Arguably they actually want Elizabeth Warren, but maybe they don’t want it to appear too easy a victory for her? Which could be their undoing, as it was with Hillary.

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    • January 17, 2020, at 2:33 PM PST
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  5. Seawriter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I decided to contribute $50 every time McSally said something offensive about this issue. She wants to sell tee-shirts and she went on Fox News Channel about this.

    Contribute to whom?

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    If Biden is nominated, Trump will lose Arizona. I think that Biden would win AZ, FL, MI, NC, OH, PA, and WI over Trump.

    I cannot see Trump losing FL, MI, OH, PA, and WI. All of those are either manufacturing states or oil states. Biden has promised to shut down the oil industry, which will put a lot of blue collar workers on the unemployment line. How many of them do you think are going to vote to cut their throats on employment? Additionally FL has a pro-Trump governor who ran on a Trump platform who is wildly popular and has shown what Trump economic policies can do.

    My questions are this:

    1. Can you name anyone who however reluctantly voted for Trump in 2016 that will not vote for him in 2020? (Honestly voted for him, not voted for some third-party candidate or Clinton and is now saying they voted for Trump. Someone you know that told you in 2016 “I held my nose and voted for him.)
    2. Can you name anyone who did not vote for Trump in 2016 who is now saying, “Yeah, given the economy and the judges, and his immigration position and what the Democrats are running on, I am going to vote for Trump in 2020.

    In my own circle of acquaintances the answer is no to the first question and yes to the second. A surprisingly large number of yeses even from blue collar democrats. Even from some Blacks and Hispanics I know. Given he won in 2016, if he loses none of those who voted for him then, and picks up those who voted against him then how does he lose in 2020?

    And given the Democrats have gone full-bore socialist, if Trump wins, how does he not have coattails?

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    • January 17, 2020, at 3:14 PM PST
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  6. kedavis Member

    Alan Dershowitz is good at poking holes in cases. But Schiff and Nadler are self-hole-poking.

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    • January 17, 2020, at 3:17 PM PST
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  7. Seawriter Member

    If CNN Can’t Take Punches, They Shouldn’t Be Throwing Them.

    And if Greg and Jim really think Manu Raju is not a liberal hack it is evidence they need to spend less time on the East Coast and spend more time in flyover country. 

    • #7
    • January 17, 2020, at 6:47 PM PST
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  8. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I decided to contribute $50 every time McSally said something offensive about this issue. She wants to sell tee-shirts and she went on Fox News Channel about this.

    I have contributed $250 in the last 24 hours. If McSally keeps it up, I will keep it up.

    If Biden is nominated, Trump will lose Arizona. I think that Biden would win AZ, FL, MI, NC, OH, PA, and WI over Trump.

    Why? Why would those states go for Biden over Trump.

    I dont see a reason why any reasonably informed person would ever vote for Biden.

    • #8
    • January 17, 2020, at 7:12 PM PST
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  9. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Alan Dershowitz is good at poking holes in cases. But Schiff and Nadler are self-hole-poking.

    I think those 2 are Allholes.

    • #9
    • January 17, 2020, at 7:12 PM PST
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  10. Taras Coolidge

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    If CNN Can’t Take Punches, They Shouldn’t Be Throwing Them.

    And if Greg and Jim really think Manu Raju is not a liberal hack it is evidence they need to spend less time on the East Coast and spend more time in flyover country.

    Remember, Jim Geraghty is always wrong.

    Any time he says anything, and at first it sounds right, you need to go over his words more carefully, until you find the superficial mistake, or deep-seated misconception.

    Example: he seems unaware of the demographic chamges in Arizona that make it a tough state for a conservative like Martha McSally.

     

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    • January 17, 2020, at 11:23 PM PST
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  11. Taras Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I decided to contribute $50 every time McSally said something offensive about this issue. She wants to sell tee-shirts and she went on Fox News Channel about this.

    I have contributed $250 in the last 24 hours. If McSally keeps it up, I will keep it up.

    If Biden is nominated, Trump will lose Arizona. I think that Biden would win AZ, FL, MI, NC, OH, PA, and WI over Trump.

    Contribute to who, or what?

    Are you now betting against your Klobuchar-Buttigieg prediction?

    I just sent McSally my first contribution ($100), in honor of her calling a hack a hack.

    And because she sent me a really neat pop-up A-10 Warthog!

    • #11
    • January 17, 2020, at 11:27 PM PST
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  12. Taras Coolidge

    Remember, Jim Geraghty is always wrong.

    An even more egregious example is that he (and, it seems, Greg) takes the exploded “me-too” charges against Alan Dershowitz seriously.

    Dershowitz has published a whole book about it. He says he is trying to get Clinton lawyer David Boies disbarred.

    • #12
    • January 17, 2020, at 11:37 PM PST
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  13. kedavis Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    If CNN Can’t Take Punches, They Shouldn’t Be Throwing Them.

    And if Greg and Jim really think Manu Raju is not a liberal hack it is evidence they need to spend less time on the East Coast and spend more time in flyover country.

    Remember, Jim Geraghty is always wrong.

    Any time he says anything, and at first it sounds right, you need to go over his words more carefully, until you find the superficial mistake, or deep-seated misconception.

    Example: he seems unaware of the demographic chamges in Arizona that make it a tough state for a conservative like Martha McSally.

    That’s a serious problem facing Arizona now, as it faced Oregon in the past when I used to live there: people from California mostly, fleeing the hell-hole they created, and then making a new hell-hole wherever they fled to.

    It was less of an issue in the Oregon times, but now one of the reasons… middle- or lower-class people, especially.. leave California is to get away from gangs. And when they get to Arizona, one of the first things they often do is join or form a gang. Maybe because that’s all they know.

    • #13
    • January 18, 2020, at 7:15 PM PST
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