Join Jim and Greg as they reflect on Iowa Rep. Steve King losing his GOP primary and Valerie Plame going up in political flames in her congressional bid in New Mexico. With politicians cracking down on everyday social distance violators but encouraging the demonstrators to take to the streets in close quarters, just how much of our stay-at-home orders was politics and how much was about public health? And they welcome the World Health Organization close to reality as reports suggest it knew about China’s lies and stalling tactics in the critical early days of the pandemic.

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  1. Arahant Member

    I think the whole “healthcare heroes” thing is becoming a bit overdone.

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    • June 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM PDT
  2. Seawriter Contributor

    Collapse in faith in medical doomsaying. And rightfully so. 

    They lied to us.

    • #2
    • June 3, 2020, at 1:41 PM PDT
  3. Arahant Member

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Collapse in faith in medical doomsaying. And rightfully so.

    They lied to us.


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    • June 3, 2020, at 1:43 PM PDT
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  4. Seawriter Contributor

    But Jim and Greg will keep drinking the “believe experts” Kool-aid – even when the experts demonstrate through their own actions that they do not believe what they are peddling.

    • #4
    • June 3, 2020, at 1:49 PM PDT
  5. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    You may joke about Canada’s “Intelligence” services, but when you really think about it, the world’s most effective spies are the ones you dont hear about. Just sleep on that.

    Dont worry about Canada’s PM – we dont like him very much either.

    • #5
    • June 3, 2020, at 3:04 PM PDT
  6. FredGoodhue Coolidge

    As was made clear in the podcast, there are many political leaders who advocated very severe restrictions on people’s movements, which has put us in a depression, or close to one. This is justified because the alternative is worse. Put then when it’s politically useful, they ignore, or even advocate, major violations of these restrictions. This makes me wonder if they really do think that this pestilence is as bad as they said.

    This reminds me of global warming advocates. They want policies that would have similarly bad effects on the economy. And the effects would be permanent, not just for two weeks, or a few months. But there is one effective way to greatly reduce carbon emissions in the US, in a fairly short time frame. This is with a well established technology, not with very speculative technologies. That way is expanded use of nuclear power. Yes, nuclear power does have serious downsides, but not nearly as bad is the supposed effects of global warming. But with very few exceptions, global warming advocates are not nuclear power advocates. Another problem with global warming advocates is the Green New Deal. This proposal adds on a lot of policies not related to global warming and have a lot of opposition. All these extra policies make it harder to pass global warming legislation.

    In both situations, advocates are not acting like the problem is as serious as they say it is.

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    • June 3, 2020, at 3:18 PM PDT
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  7. Architectus Coolidge

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    But Jim and Greg will keep drinking the “believe experts” Kool-aid – even when the experts demonstrate through their own actions that they do not believe what they are peddling.

    Which is why Jim and Greg are the consummate purveyors of “the conventional wisdom”, whatever it is at the time (subject to change without notice).

    • #7
    • June 4, 2020, at 7:07 PM PDT
  8. DJ EJ Member

    Ironic that the locally appropriate advertisement that begins the podcast was a visit Door County, Wisconsin tourism commercial (put out by the Wisconsin tourism department run by the Evers administration), which is only possible because of the Wisconsin Supreme Court decision that ended the governor’s statewide lockdown. Otherwise, our (as yet unconfirmed by the state senate) director of public health, Andrea Palm, probably would have extended the lockdown again well into June (can’t let Virginia, New York, or California win the prize for longest lockdown).

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    • June 7, 2020, at 8:39 PM PDT
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