The Debaters

It’s the day after the night of the Big Thing and the men from GLoP cover it in their own inimitable way. Who won? Who lost? Who had nasal malfunctions? It’s all here. Also, some parsing of NYT columnist Ross Douthat’s recent Clinton’s Samantha Bee Problem column, and a meditation on the top TV shows of all time. Did we miss any? Let us know in the comments.

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There are 48 comments.

  1. Oranjeman Inactive

    I haven’t listened yet, but I’d hope that Deadwood, Twin Peaks, and Northern Exposure get some Glop love. (That particular assemblage of words sounds disgusting though.)

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    • September 27, 2016, at 12:25 PM PDT
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  2. Wineguy13 Thatcher

    Oh wow, Jonah is en fuego! If you have time for a twelve-hour round-trip, come over to the other part of the state and we can have some good wine & cigars. Since your jokes today may lose you your job ;-)

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    • September 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM PDT
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  3. Wineguy13 Thatcher

    In what world is ‘Simplisafe’ pronounced ‘Simple Safe’?? Just say Simply Safe!! For goodness’ sakes man! How do you mangle Miller Lite?

    Whew, glad I got that off of my chest. It has been two weeks it has bugged me. Perhaps I need a life.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 1:26 PM PDT
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  4. Johnnie Alum 13 Coolidge

    That cornhole tournament could become a hairy situation.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM PDT
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  5. Karen Humiston Member
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    You guys were having too much fun today. I love it.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 1:56 PM PDT
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  6. rebark Inactive

    The worst thing is when you’re cornholing and you accidentally put your beanbag in the wrong place.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 1:56 PM PDT
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  7. Hammer, The Member

    We call it “baggos” in the pacific northwest.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 2:01 PM PDT
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  8. Sleepywhiner Member

    I wish you guys would decide to pronounce SimpliSafe with an e and not a i.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 2:19 PM PDT
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  9. David Knights Member

    Coming from Kentucky, I need to correct Jonah. It isn’t corn-holing, it is playing corn-hole. At least when referring to playing to the bean bag game. Now, if Jonah was doing something else…..

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    • September 27, 2016, at 3:22 PM PDT
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  10. Roberto, Crusty Old Timer LLC Member
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    You fellows seem very enthralled with some pretty elaborate conspiracy theories regarding the Senator Cruz endorsement.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 3:26 PM PDT
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  11. Linc Wolverton Member

    I could barely stand watching the ‘debate’, but what struck me was the smugness of Hillary Clinton when standing by while Trump and Holt talked.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 3:35 PM PDT
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  12. Henry Castaigne Member

    I watched fifteen minutes of the debate then gave up and watched Zootopia. Zootopia was good.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM PDT
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  13. Kim K. Member
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    Not to name names, but someone I may be married to has a nerd tic, although if I mentioned that to him he’d deny it vigorously. However, that certain clearing of the throat and dry little cough hack right before an explanation that maybe sounds a wee bit incredible is a dead give-away.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 5:16 PM PDT
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  14. listeningin Inactive

    The issue of the way the Left has taken over pop culture may be true in terms of their attempt to be the gatekeepers of huge portions of the media, but I thought Rob’s point was important. Whoever the louder voices are, they aren’t effective enough to stop the fact that major sectors of the population would rather watch Fallon or NCIS or Fox rather than Colbert or Mad Men or CNN. Perhaps we are getting to the point we need new terms…rather than popular culture, talk about media culture, because the stuff leftists want to talk about isn’t actually very popular. In some ways I think that those of you who are involved in politics and the media punditry, I can imagine the media and the Left as a sort of looming and all pervasive reality seeping into every nook and cranny of American life. As a fairly typical American (conservative white evangelical female…and public school teacher), I only have to encounter the Left when I choose to (or when they rear their ugly heads in education policy).

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    • September 27, 2016, at 5:55 PM PDT
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  15. listeningin Inactive

    Another point…the way the issue of pop culture and the Left is discussed on GLOP strikes me as similar to the discussion about how Trump discusses things with an apparent underlying assumptions about conservatives…when he talks about “gun people,” indicating he is not one and doesn’t know many of them or when he compliments a conservative crowd for not being racist. It’s as if the Left media’s narrative about what is going on in America and in pop culture is what is actually true. So there was a discussion (on GLOP or Ricochet, can’t remember which) a few weeks ago about how Mad Men wasn’t very popular, especially compared to NCIS, but NCIS had not cultural influence compared to Mad Men. Well, if the only thing that counts as cultural impact is if Hollywood plasters images of the characters along Hollywood Blvd. and it is approved of by the NY Times, then sure. But perhaps we are simply believing the smug self importance of that small percentage of the population a bit to readily. What counts as cultural impact? And why do those people matter so much? What about the millions more who chose NCIS or Fallon? Why don’t they count? I think there is a lot of discouragement because we aren’t recognizing that whatever is going on with the loud Left, normal people are still out there in far greater proportions finding them ridiculous.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 6:26 PM PDT
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  16. Cato Rand Coolidge

    Are you guys drunk?

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    • September 27, 2016, at 6:59 PM PDT
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  17. kylez Member
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    Oranjeman:I haven’t listened yet, but I’d hope that Deadwood, Twin Peaks, and Northern Exposure get some Glop love. (That particular assemblage of words sounds disgusting though.)

    Ironic that you made that last comment, having not heard the podcast yet. You’ll know what I mean when you do.

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    • September 27, 2016, at 11:20 PM PDT
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  18. roughdraught Inactive

    Love this podcast. Agree that Trump was eviscerated by the stodgy Clinton but this is 2016 and I’m not sure that the American electorate sees trump as a politician in the sense that he doesn’t prevaricate. He just tells it like it is, which is, I play by YOUR rules as in “no admission of guilt” and the bankruptcies are entirely defensible as they are perfectly legal. We are all reminded every day about Hillary and how she plays the game. LA Times this AM has Trump 46.7 & Clinton 42.6

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    • September 28, 2016, at 5:56 AM PDT
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  19. Miffed White Male Member
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    About the cornhole discussion: I’ve been playing pokemon go with my 9-year-old son. The other day at work I was talking to a woman who has an 11-year-old and mentioned that my son was at the stage where he giggles every time he says the words “poke balls”. I asked if she knew how old he would be before he grew out of it and she just looked at me and said, “I don’t know, how old are you? My husband still giggles about it – and you’re grinning right now while you’re asking me”.

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    • September 28, 2016, at 6:31 AM PDT
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  20. Miffed White Male Member
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    This probably should be a separate thread, but that Rolling Stone top 100 TV shows list is a joke, that suffers terribly from recency bias. (Girls is on the list, but the Andy Griffith show isn’t? Really? And where’s Barney Miller? WKRP in Cincinnati? NewsRadio? St. Elsewhere?)

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    • September 28, 2016, at 8:34 AM PDT
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  21. Owen Findy Member

    John, it’s semi-monthly. Were the unit of time a month, it would be monthly; for a day, it’s daily.

    The unit of time here is the semi-month — the half-month. So, the frequency of the podcast is semi-monthly.

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    • September 28, 2016, at 9:09 AM PDT
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  22. Blue Yeti Admin

    Miffed White Male:About the cornhole discussion: I’ve been playing pokemon go with my 9-year-old son. The other day at work I was talking to a woman who has an 11-year-old and mentioned that my son was at the stage where he giggles every time he says the words “poke balls”. I asked if she knew how old he would be before he grew out of it and she just looked at me and said, “I don’t know, how old are you? My husband still giggles about it – and you’re grinning right now while you’re asking me”.

    The original title for this episode was “The Master Debaters.”

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    • September 28, 2016, at 9:29 AM PDT
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  23. Miffed White Male Member
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    Blue Yeti:

    Miffed White Male:About the cornhole discussion: I’ve been playing pokemon go with my 9-year-old son. The other day at work I was talking to a woman who has an 11-year-old and mentioned that my son was at the stage where he giggles every time he says the words “poke balls”. I asked if she knew how old he would be before he grew out of it and she just looked at me and said, “I don’t know, how old are you? My husband still giggles about it – and you’re grinning right now while you’re asking me”.

    The original title for this episode was “The Master Debaters.”

    Chicken.

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    • September 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM PDT
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  24. RPD Member
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    Listening to the podcast now, I’m imagining EJ Hill’s growing horror in trying to create a relevant image that’s also COC compliant.

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    • September 28, 2016, at 9:50 AM PDT
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  25. JN in MO Inactive

    Hard to believe none of you guys had heard of the cornhole game. Have any of you been to a college or NFL football game in the last 20 years? Stoll through the parking lots before the game and you’ll see it everywhere.

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    • September 28, 2016, at 11:37 AM PDT
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  26. Miffed White Male Member
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    JN in MO:Hard to believe none of you guys had heard of the cornhole game. Have any of you been to a college or NFL football game in the last 20 years? Stoll through the parking lots before the game and you’ll see it everywhere.

    we’ve get a mini one set up in the office, we’ll have quick games during the day as a break. It’s also fun to toss the beanbags over cubicle walls (or directly at someone)

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    • September 28, 2016, at 11:54 AM PDT
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  27. kylez Member
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    Miffed White Male:

    Blue Yeti:

    Miffed White Male:About the cornhole discussion: I’ve been playing pokemon go with my 9-year-old son. The other day at work I was talking to a woman who has an 11-year-old and mentioned that my son was at the stage where he giggles every time he says the words “poke balls”. I asked if she knew how old he would be before he grew out of it and she just looked at me and said, “I don’t know, how old are you? My husband still giggles about it – and you’re grinning right now while you’re asking me”.

    The original title for this episode was “The Master Debaters.”

    Chicken.

    Reminds me of a joke i knew when i was 12. You guys may have too.

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    • September 28, 2016, at 1:02 PM PDT
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  28. JN in MO Inactive

    Miffed White Male: we’ve get a mini one set up in the office, we’ll have quick games during the day as a break. It’s also fun to toss the beanbags over cubicle walls (or directly at someone)

    Nice, I may have to find one for my office. Back at my previous place in Ohio, management sponsored a tournament every year, during work hours. Winner got a nice gift card and a cheesy trophy. They take their cornhole very seriously there. :)

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    • September 28, 2016, at 1:15 PM PDT
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  29. Johnnie Alum 13 Coolidge

    JN in MO:Hard to believe none of you guys had heard of the cornhole game. Have any of you been to a college or NFL football game in the last 20 years? Stoll through the parking lots before the game and you’ll see it everywhere.

    Washers is an even more fun tailgating game.

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    • September 28, 2016, at 1:18 PM PDT
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  30. kylez Member
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    listeningin:…So there was a discussion (on GLOP or Ricochet, can’t remember which) a few weeks ago about how Mad Men wasn’t very popular, especially compared to NCIS, but NCIS had not cultural influence compared to Mad Men. Well, if the only thing that counts as cultural impact is if Hollywood plasters images of the characters along Hollywood Blvd. and it is approved of by the NY Times, then sure. But perhaps we are simply believing the smug self importance of that small percentage of the population a bit to readily. What counts as cultural impact? And why do those people matter so much? What about the millions more who chose NCIS or Fallon? Why don’t they count? I think there is a lot of discouragement because we aren’t recognizing that whatever is going on with the loud Left, normal people are still out there in far greater proportions finding them ridiculous.

    Just yesterday there was an article on Yahoo about Will and Grace doing a reunion episode. It was described as a “beloved” show, and a couple of years ago there was an article on Yahoo calling that show among the most popular sitcoms of all time, which immediately didn’t ring true. They have liberal bubble reasons for such claims, but one can see in the year end rankings it was only a fairly popular show, much of its viewers being Friends fans.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_%26_Grace

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    • September 28, 2016, at 1:36 PM PDT
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