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The Big Lie
In recent interviews, Liz Cheney has been calling President Trump’s insistence that the 2020 election was stolen “The Big Lie.” And over the weekend the mainstream media has been beside themselves over the forensic audit underway in Arizona. Today, President Trump decided to take those words and shove them back in the faces of spineless Republicans like her, Kevin McCarthy, and others by issuing the following statement:
Of course, Cheney doubled down on her assertions, and – much like every other Republican leader – has refused to actually debate the mountains of evidence most of us recognized immediately and have been daring others to examine ever since. One person who’s been front and center in all of this is Jenna Ellis, the president’s attorney who threw down a gauntlet of her own:
I love this, all of it. It reminds me that there are still a few people out there willing to have it out with the weak-kneed gatekeepers who care almost nothing about truth and even less about consequences. Will Cheney or any of the other media sycophants have the courage to debate any of our best and brightest on actual facts? Will conservative media outlets like Ricochet be willing to provide a forum?
This isn’t going away now, matter how much the hand-wringing NeverTrumpers want it to. I (and others like me) won’t sit quietly while these people desecrate our country and its laws. It’s beyond time to take a side on who is lying to whom. I stand with the president – not the usurper sitting in his chair, but the real one, who’s willing to call out a lie when he sees it, even if everyone else is afraid to.
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“Trump’s Big Lie” is that he “won” the 2020 election. It is amazing that only a few Republican officials like Liz Cheney will call Trump on his Big Lie, while the rest of the crowd is admiring the Emperor’s new clothes.
That would be Biden.
That’s not amazing at all. Neocons are just Democrats with a different letter next to their name.
Look on the bright side. It gives allegedly “Biden voters” are rather weird dodge to excuse their choices given what we’ve seen in the last several months. Excuse that.
And no, I don’t expect a response.
In a sane or honest world your argument would hold weight. But this is a legal world instead, and reason, ethics, morality, or the letter or spirit of the law, don’t apply.
When the left accuses the right of something the left, themselves, are guilty of, and does it through saturation media propaganda, it’s called The Big Lying Projection.
(I just made that up.)
A judge in Michigan ruled that the Sec. of State unlawfully changed the voting procedures. Thus the entire state’s election was conducted unlawfully. It is possible for an election to be both complete and illegitimate at the same time.
And, even if the Secretary of State “certified” it, that doesn’t make it valid/lawful either.
The time to challenge that was before the election and not after the election.
You keep forgetting or just ignoring what’s gone before, worse than a broken record or something.
NR Plus has a great article about Liz Cheney. Here is the start of it:
Liz Cheney Digs In, as Support Sinks over Blunt Trump Talk
This is a rather remarkable achievement considering the competition.
There’s Matt Gaetz, who is reportedly “being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him.”
There’s Marjorie Taylor Greene, who promoted anti-Semitic and deranged QAnon conspiracy theories. Greene also said in a 2019 speech (uncovered by CNN earlier this year) that Nancy Pelosi is guilty of “a crime punishable by death . . . treason” and liked a Facebook post saying a “bullet to the head” would be a quicker way to remove Pelosi — behavior for which Greene has never apologized.
Then there’s Cheney, who . . . continues to say out loud that the 2020 election wasn’t stolen, that Donald Trump’s lies caused the violent attack on Congress on January 6, and that Donald Trump therefore shouldn’t be the leader of the Republican Party.
It is a very good article and fully justifies the cost of the “NR PLUS MEMBER ARTICLES.” Here are the closing paragraphs:
“If we minimize what happened on Jan. 6th and if we appease it,” Cheney said in an interview with Politico last week, “then we will be in a situation where every election cycle, you could potentially have another constitutional crisis.”
“You can’t bury our head in the sand,” she continued. “It matters hugely to the survival of the country.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/liz-cheney-digs-in-as-support-sinks-over-blunt-trump-talk/
What an odd endorsement of anti-Cheney Republicans.
Classic. You left out the part where I said it wasn’t a real thing. Well done. No wonder you’re a Trumper.
This is the first time you have said this. That is progress.
But he forgets or ignores that courts wouldn’t order anything before the election because there was no “standing” since the election hadn’t happened yet, and they wouldn’t order anything after the election because it was “moot.”
Lawyers: ”Henry VI,” Part II, act IV, Scene II, Line 73
They know, they just pick out the most frequently parroted liberal talking point to match the occasion. Why bother thinking about these things when the Biden loving GOP and national media have already done the thinking for you?
That’s echolalia with a touch of Tourette’s.
Well then, where was the Trump campaign challenges? The only one that was worth anything was the PA one about absentee ballots which the Courts should have heard. Fair enough, you’ve got a case there. But where were the others.
also it’s so funny to be called a Rino or a liberal or a fake conservative by people making living constitution arguments. Of course other states should be allowed overturn elections in other states because it’s a national election, Justice Ginsburg would agree with you there guys. Who cares about stupid procedural rules like standing and mootness, it’s only the outcome that matters. So what we didn’t challenge election rules before an election, we should be allowed challenge them afterwards. Who cares about things like certification and the electoral count act and safe harbor, we want our guy to win.
So I’ll take being a liberal or whatever other slurs you guys throw over regurgitating the worst arguments of liberal law professors and Supreme Court Justices, you know the people we’re supposed to be against.
Are standing and mootness in the Constitution? Or are they just ways to not hear cases they don’t want to hear.
Henry VI, Part II, act IV, Scene II, Line 73
No, they come from the common law. Liberals have spent years watering it down and now you’re doing the same. So accept that your arguments are more in keeping with Ruth Ginsburg not Antonin Scalia. Also maybe read a bit of Blackstone as well Shakespeare.
I’m not a lawyer.
You would need to add some specificity to your amorphous leftist terminology in order to make it an actual “charge.” As stated, with respect to constitutionality, it is meaningless twaddle. As intended, I expect.
And again, you continue to obtusely mischaracterize my point as “fraud” instead of unconstitutionality. Very trollish.
There was a time when I would have corrected your erroneous “Trumper” accusation but at this point I have learned that it doesn’t really matter and it would be as pointless as ever when dealing with your particular brand of intellectual dishonesty.
Say “hi” to Gary for me at your next coordination meeting. Thanks for playing.
I’ve had Christmas presents delivered in a pilfered condition. The items could only have been stolen while in USPS custody . . .
Well you’re the one claiming that elections In states can be overturned because of unconstitutionality by other states suing and hasn’t cited a single precedent or opinion to support that. I’d refer you to the dissents in Bush v Gore, they’ve many of the arguments you’re making here.
Therefore I wouldn’t throw around intellectual dishonesty too easily, since you resort to calling me a leftist all the time. You’re the one making the left’s arguments, Mark Tushnet, Erwin Chemerinsky, Laurence Tribe, Vicki Jackson, they all agree with you. So I think the word you’re looking for is projection.
Ive no idea who this Gary is you mentioned. But okay, I’ll check in with him at the next Soros/Gates get together….oops. I’ve said too much.
You noticed that too, eh? From my soon to be released good-bye letter to Ricochet management (probably in a matter of hours):
“You know, there is a revolving door of – as they present themselves – people with avatars showing silver haired men of sixty, lawyers mostly, claiming to be Republicans or conservatives, but arguing against every conservative thought, prone to using sarcasm, rudeness, and scatological language (a lot like your blue guy). It’s as if they’re all the same guy, or group of guys, recruited and paid by the same organizations.”
I’ll tell the other antifa guys we’ve won so.
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That was a joke if you didn’t get it….
I see you recognized yourself in that, eh?