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The Big Lie
In recent interviews, Liz Cheney has been calling President Trump’s insistence that the 2020 election was stolen “The Big Lie.” And over the weekend the mainstream media has been beside themselves over the forensic audit underway in Arizona. Today, President Trump decided to take those words and shove them back in the faces of spineless Republicans like her, Kevin McCarthy, and others by issuing the following statement:
Of course, Cheney doubled down on her assertions, and – much like every other Republican leader – has refused to actually debate the mountains of evidence most of us recognized immediately and have been daring others to examine ever since. One person who’s been front and center in all of this is Jenna Ellis, the president’s attorney who threw down a gauntlet of her own:
I love this, all of it. It reminds me that there are still a few people out there willing to have it out with the weak-kneed gatekeepers who care almost nothing about truth and even less about consequences. Will Cheney or any of the other media sycophants have the courage to debate any of our best and brightest on actual facts? Will conservative media outlets like Ricochet be willing to provide a forum?
This isn’t going away now, matter how much the hand-wringing NeverTrumpers want it to. I (and others like me) won’t sit quietly while these people desecrate our country and its laws. It’s beyond time to take a side on who is lying to whom. I stand with the president – not the usurper sitting in his chair, but the real one, who’s willing to call out a lie when he sees it, even if everyone else is afraid to.
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Gary, John Kasich isn’t what you think he is. Look at the stuff from this author.
The Trump Big Lie is that Trump actually won the 2020 election. When Trump was elected in 2016, we controlled the House, the Senate and the Presidency. When Trump was defeated in 2020, we had lost the House, the Senate and the Presidency. The last President seeking re-election to lose all three was Herbert Hoover, and Democrats controlled the Presidency for 20 years, and the Senate and House almost as long. So much winning!
It would have been nice if the media had been fair to him and the deep state didn’t attack him.
The GOP needs to adopt comprehensive MAGA policies.
I can live with many MAGA policies, I can’t abide the Trump/MAGA personalities. Time for new leadership.
Then please try to move the ship towards that and not the other way. I have tried to explain the policy aspect of this and I don’t think you are interested. This is a big general problem in the Republican Party. Furthermore, Trump was a good example of how to deal with corrupt institutions.
They have spent $70 million going after him. They still haven’t finished. It was an outrage that they wouldn’t let him govern.
Because we have yet to see the Democrats provide any proof that Biden won. It’s the simplest solution in the world, let us see his ballots. But no, they can’t allow that for…reasons.
Keep projecting all you want, nobody here is falling for it, except Gary. Maybe you should get together and go bowling to celebrate this new era of freedom and transparency you’ve facilitated. You can hoist a bottle of cheap light beer to that towering house of cards your boys have erected.
How many times is Gary going to try and make this stick?
And you should get together with John Kerry and Stacey Abrams and Hillary and Al Gore and whine about stolen elections. You guys could watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and point out all the ways Bush stole 2000. You’d fit right in. You could compare voting machines and hanging chads and missing ballots. Or maybe with AOC and whine about how the system is set up against you.
I was listening to Breitbart this morning and Alex Marlow said that his new book is critical of the way Trump and most of the GOP explained the election theft. I got all of my information from from those guys and the Amistad Project. He is going to explain in detail about Zuckerberg and the Democrat lawfare. That is the real story. The GOP was asleep, Zuckerberg got his plans in late and we were hosed.
I can’t remember it very well, but it sounds like he has some new reasoning on how the Democrats lied on the legal approach.
https://alexmarlow.com/breaking-the-news/
Nothing makes a person think the election was stolen more than pols who loudly proclaim that it’s a BIG LIE to say it was stolen and demand that we agree with them, then huff and puff about how we’re attacking democracy and the Constitution if we don’t. Yeah, the same people who pushed the Russian Collusion hoax for 3 years and do everything they can to make sure questions about the election are never asked.
They were talking about this on talk radio this morning. “The Big Lie” is obviously coordinated publicity phrasing.
This is the smoke that alone should prove to everyone there is a fire.
There is a fire, but unfortunately what’s burning is the credibility of huge portions of the Right. The election questions were asked, most of these claims of fraud and cheating were investigated, and they have generally failed to turn up anything solid that would have changed the outcome. A quick google search leads to tons of articles about this, such as this one: https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/elections/2020/11/20/dozens-of-claims-about-election-fraud-debunked-politifact/. That’s just one example.
So, neutral observers of all this, looking into it, typically see some alarming claim of fraud (video of a truck pulling up to a polling site, rumors of someone burning ballots, a suitcase full of ballots pulled out from under a table, etc…), and then when they look into it, see that there is a perfectly plausible explanation. Not being partisans seeing what they want to see, the neutral observers naturally conclude that there’s very little good evidence that the election was stolen. It begins to look very much like a traditional conspiracy theory, and it costs the GOP a huge amount of credibility among independents, and even many other conservatives.
And yes, of course, there are credibility issues on the left, too, but you can’t get any traction out of that when there are so many on the right as well.
Politifact?!?!
Thank you for playing.
I grant you your perspective based on your research of the evidence, but consider the fact that they have literally banned posts, videos and articles that show contrary evidence that you probably haven’t seen, they’ve de-platformed people who’ve continued to speak about it, and they’ve seized and closed bank account if those who’ve funded the efforts of whistleblowers. Doesn’t that concern you a little, and maybe get you wondering why they’re afraid of letting you see all of the data in order to make a more informed conclusion?
Naw it makes his “job” so much easier when other people remove the evidence that he didn’t want to see anyway.
The last part is really the most important, everything else is just icing on the cake. A state cannot change election law through the courts. I don’t care what the excuse is. Covid, terrorist attack, alien invasion, it doesn’t matter. They cannot legally create reasons to do things out of thin air.
Especially when their doing so will create long term detriment to other states and legal precedent for other states to act on. It’s almost like the states who followed the Constitution had a legal right to demand those that didn’t be held accountable.