Policy guru Avik Roy joins to consider whether there’s still space for market oriented reform in health care and in American life in general. He also explains how he became a wonk.

Jay and Mona then turn to the Las Vegas massacre, Tom Price’s departure, Rex Tillerson’s honesty (and likely tenure), going easy on Trump, and Mona’s experience at a rock concert. Yes, really.

Music from this week’s episode: Barcarolle from “The Tales of Hoffmann,” by Offenbach, sung by Montserrat Caballé and Shirley Verrett

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There are 8 comments.

  1. ToryWarWriter Thatcher

    When was the last time Conservatives passed meaningful legislation that saved money and reduced bureaucracy? 2015.

    When Congress, Senate and Pres Obama, passed the Every Student Succeeds Act. Which killed the now infamous and utterly incompetent No Child Left Behind Act.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/12/09/congress-replaces-no-child-left-behind-shifts-power-to-states

    A major overhaul of education that redirect power out of Washington and into the hands of the States. A major conservative victory if I ever saw one.

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    • October 6, 2017, at 1:50 PM PST
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  2. George Townsend Inactive

    I am 63, which I believe is older than the inestimable Mona. And I completely sympathize with her regarding rock music. I never really cared for much of it, beyond the Rock Around The Clock stuff of the fifties. Even when I was a teenager. My Mom was out once, at some sort of give-away thing, I think. Don’t remember what it was. She won some rock and roll albums. And some guy said that her boy is gonna love those. “No, he won’t”, she told him. She was right. And the ear-splitting of it all!!!!!!!

    And I loved the way she laughed as she described it! The way she made me laugh when she wrote “Uh-Oh”, after my comment on Jonah Goldberg’s new Podcast. She must be a Jonah fan, along with me!

    What a gal!!

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    • October 6, 2017, at 4:00 PM PST
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  3. Petty Boozswha Member

    I dislike a lot of what talk radio has done to conservatism as much as Jay and Mona, but can you give me a few concrete examples of politicians trimming their opinions to pander to them? As opposed to the thousands of examples of conservatives that end up in Washington and mistake the swamp for a Jacuzzi [a great phrase.] I’ll start with my example: compare and contrast some of Tea Party Marco Rubio’s statements on immigration or entitlement reform in his 2010 primary against McConnell’s candidate, Charlie Crist, with the focus group language he tried to run for President with. If the 2010 Rubio had been on the ballot I honestly believe Trump could have been defeated.

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    • October 8, 2017, at 2:47 PM PST
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  4. George Townsend Inactive

    Petty B (View Comment):
    I dislike a lot of what talk radio has done to conservatism as much as Jay and Mona, but can you give me a few concrete examples of politicians trimming their opinions to pander to them? As opposed to the thousands of examples of conservatives that end up in Washington and mistake the swamp for a Jacuzzi [a great phrase.] I’ll start with my example: compare and contrast some of Tea Party Marco Rubio’s statements on immigration or entitlement reform in his 2010 primary against McConnell’s candidate, Charlie Crist, with the focus group language he tried to run for President with. If the 2010 Rubio had been on the ballot I honestly believe Trump could have been defeated.

    I’ll give you what I believe is an example of a politician’s trimming his sales, Petty B: Paul Ryan. Now, I still admire Ryan. Don’t mistake me. But if he weren’t the Speaker I don’t think he’d be saying the things he now says about Donald Trump. I also believe he would not be talking about a possible 4th category in the new tax changes, were he not eager to please the wave of politicians we now have. I understand why he is doing it, and don’t blame him. You have to win to affect change. This does not mean, however, that I am not disappointed.

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    • October 8, 2017, at 5:46 PM PST
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  5. Petty Boozswha Member

    I will agree with you on that example.

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    • October 8, 2017, at 6:57 PM PST
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  6. rgbact Member

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):
    When was the last time Conservatives passed meaningful legislation that saved money and reduced bureaucracy? 2015.

    We were one vote short about a month ago……but half the party was busy calling the other half traitors and RINO’s. Meanwhile, nobody was trying to sell John McCain or Lisa Murkowski on it.

    Anyway, love it when you have a wonk like Avik on. Sadly, his voice gets drowned out by all the angry blowhards with no ideas like Bannon, which you mentioned.

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    • October 11, 2017, at 10:37 AM PST
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  7. David Bryan Member

    George Townsend (View Comment):
    I am 63, which I believe is older than the inestimable Mona. And I completely sympathize with her regarding rock music. I never really cared for much of it, beyond the Rock Around The Clock stuff of the fifties. Even when I was a teenager. My Mom was out once, at some sort of give-away thing, I think. Don’t remember what it was. She won some rock and roll albums. And some guy said that her boy is gonna love those. “No, he won’t”, she told him. She was right. And the ear-splitting of it all!!!!!!!

    And I loved the way she laughed as she described it! The way she made me laugh when she wrote “Uh-Oh”, after my comment on Jonah Goldberg’s new Podcast. She must be a Jonah fan, along with me!

    What a gal!!

    George…what delightful post!

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    • October 12, 2017, at 8:11 AM PST
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  8. George Townsend Inactive

    David Bryan (View Comment):
    George…what delightful post!

    Thanks!!!

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    • October 15, 2017, at 12:06 PM PST
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