With only one more episode left in the season, Toby Young and James Delingpole go deep on this week’s episode, including and in depth discussion of who is the most desirable (not the word they used) character on the show? Tune in to hear the final verdict.

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  1. LC Member
    LC

    Yeah, it was definitely a suicide mission. But I imagine Tyrion’s plan isn’t necessarily to convince Cersei, but to convince people around her. I mean Dany and Tyrion had a conversation about how Cersei is figuring out how to betray them. I’m not saying it was a good plan. Obviously the seven samurai + 6 extras going to enemy territory is a bad plan. After all, they have 3 dragons and dragons are great scouts.

    You could see the chains in one of the earlier scenes in the battle. Not sure if they were already there or if the giant wights pulled them from Hardhome Depot.

    When Toby didn’t answer James’ question..hahaha.

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    • August 21, 2017, at 4:13 PM PDT
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  2. bandreycak Member

    I think the “Most Shaggable Characters” question is important and was sadly underexamined. Hopefully the rest of the internet will examine it more closely.

    1. Ygritte (The wilding redhead played by Rose Leslie)
    2. Margaery Tyrell
    3. Sansa Stark

    Honorable mention: Arya (now that she’s of age). I dig the psycho killer thing.

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    • August 21, 2017, at 4:23 PM PDT
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  3. Odysseus Inactive

    It’s really not very informative to listen to strategic advice given by Toby Young, the founder of the “Tories for Corbyn” campaign.

    Give it up, Toby, you’re useless.

    [ No, don’t laugh. You’re useless, Hon. Toby Young.]

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    • August 21, 2017, at 5:27 PM PDT
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  4. Odysseus Inactive

    You’re so damn clever, Toby, you chose to ally yourself with Jeremy Corbyn. So damn clever. Or maybe not clever at all. You’re so damn clever, why don’t you join the Labour Party, that’d really mess them up!

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    • August 21, 2017, at 5:55 PM PDT
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  5. Valiuth Member

    bandreycak (View Comment):
    I think the “Most Shaggable Characters” question is important and was sadly underexamined. Hopefully the rest of the internet will examine it more closely.

    1. Ygritte (The wilding redhead played by Rose Leslie)
    2. Margaery Tyrell
    3. Sansa Stark

    Honorable mention: Arya (now that she’s of age). I dig the psycho killer thing.

    I think you are forgetting the Sand Snakes. But really I think we all know the real catch would be one of the Children of the Forest. Got to go for the freakiest things. Though maybe there will be some sexy female white walker in future shows.

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    • August 21, 2017, at 7:08 PM PDT
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  6. Lash LaRoche Inactive

    Margaery Tyrell, no contest.

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    • August 21, 2017, at 10:05 PM PDT
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  7. LC Member
    LC

    Since I’m a girl, I will have to go with Jaime Lannister. Easy choice.

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    • August 22, 2017, at 12:37 AM PDT
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  8. Shawn Buell (Majestyk) Contributor

    Well, despite the fact that Jon Snow is once again a strategic nincompoop, he nonetheless gets bailed out (for the third time) by a more talented woman. While the whole “Fellowship of Nincompoops” thing was entertaining for about 5 minutes and good for a couple of “C”-word jokes from the Hound and gay jokes from Tormund, the strategic foolishness of the entire enterprise really makes you wonder whether Jon is capable of making a single good decision. How many times does he have to nearly or totally die before he’ll learn?

    Maybe the cost he paid for being resurrected by Melisandre was “losing the power of thought” and he’s actually just a more attractive yet brainless zombie?

    The whole time scale thing is also quickly becoming a super-annoyance. While people are jetting back and forth across Westeros from Dragonstone to the Wall and back again in 10 minutes time, a bunch of other people have gotten stuck in narrative limbo.

    Vanished is Euron Greyjoy, whose fleet miraculously descended upon upon Dany’s forces – not once but twice and on opposite sides of the continent – yet can’t find Jon’s single ship as it races back and forth from Dragonstone to Eastwatch and sink it, ending the war.

    Gone is Grey Worm, who could probably have marched the Unsullied across the continent while all of this is going on, yet seems to be chilling with his feet up at Casterly Rock.

    Nobody’s in charge in Dorne anymore… so they’re just sitting it out?

    But enough kvetching. A major narrative hole was plugged when it was revealed that the White Walkers have Stinger Missiles that are effective against dragons, evening the score and making a showdown between these forces more interesting than perfunctory.

    Sansa is on some thin ice right now, having been pushed out there by Little Finger, who looks like he’s going to join the “bag ‘o faces” once Arya figures out that he’s the one behind all of the shenanigans.

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    • August 22, 2017, at 6:12 AM PDT
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  9. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge
    1. Maergery Tyrell
    2. Melissandre
    3. Nymeria Sand
    • #9
    • August 22, 2017, at 9:32 AM PDT
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  10. PJS Thatcher
    PJS

    Guys! Guys! What about Benjen?!?!?!

    Toby, I looked up “fire and ice” for you. It seems relatively benign: one partner pours wax on the other, and alternates with ice (or ice water). When I was a kid I was fascinated by fire (still am TBH), and dripped candle wax on my hands and arms. I wonder what that says about me.

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    • August 23, 2017, at 6:00 AM PDT
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  11. ibn Abu Member

    Point of order – the plan was never to kidnap a White Walker. It was to steal a wight (the undead raised by the White Walkers) – which is what they ended up doing.

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    • August 23, 2017, at 8:10 AM PDT
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  12. Shawn Buell (Majestyk) Contributor

    ibn Abu (View Comment):
    Point of order – the plan was never to kidnap a White Walker. It was to steal a wight (the undead raised by the White Walkers) – which is what they ended up doing.

    Yes, although now that you mention it, stealing a White Walker seems even better.

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    • August 23, 2017, at 9:07 AM PDT
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  13. LC Member
    LC

    Majestyk (View Comment):

    ibn Abu (View Comment):
    Point of order – the plan was never to kidnap a White Walker. It was to steal a wight (the undead raised by the White Walkers) – which is what they ended up doing.

    Yes, although now that you mention it, stealing a White Walker seems even better.

    I don’t know how they can steal a white walker. I mean look at the effort for a wight. Also, if it got loose down south, they’re even more screwed.

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    • August 23, 2017, at 9:22 PM PDT
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  14. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    Here is where my credibility is getting strained:

    Dragons were legend. Dragons are back. But we’re still going to sit around and argue whether wights and white walkers are real when told. Especially by Maesters, the keeper of all this knowledge

    Fly your three dragons into Kings Landing. Force Cersei onto one, fly her butt over the wall and show her. No no…I’ll risk my life and the kingdoms to get this proof where as if I fail, everyone dies.

    Maybe drop the charred bodies of Randall and Dickon Tarly as a motivator

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    • August 24, 2017, at 5:19 AM PDT
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  15. Profile Photo Member

    George R.R. Martin says he has not watched season 7. He knows the show has gone off the rails, but if he doesn’t watch it, he can avoid saying so in public.

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    • August 25, 2017, at 5:39 AM PDT
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  16. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    BD1 (View Comment):
    George R.R. Martin says he has not watched season 7. He knows the show has gone off the rails, but if he doesn’t watch it, he can avoid saying so in public.

    I’m sure he’s hard at work not finishing the books

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    • August 25, 2017, at 10:13 AM PDT
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