‘I Didn’t Pull the Trigger’

 

Really? That seems unlikely. I mean, that’s how guns work: it’s amazing how unlikely they are to fire if someone’s finger isn’t on the trigger. So, while it’s possible that Mr. Baldwin didn’t pull the trigger, there is about a zero percent probability that he didn’t pull the trigger.

Of course, he didn’t pull the trigger.

(Interesting note: There is such a thing as a possible event that has a zero probability of occurring. Math is an endless buffet.)

Meanwhile, in Wisconsin, DA John Chisolm didn’t pull the trigger when his soft-on-crime bail policies let serial felon Darrell Edward Brooks Jr. out on $1,000 bail less than a month ago when he assaulted and then drove his vehicle into his girlfriend. His mobility restored, Mr. Brooks then committed mass murder and put another few dozen folks into the hospital when he plowed into a Christmas parade last week in Waukesha. (The SUV, of course, receives top billing, since Mr. Brooks is, by virtue of his hue, not useful as an example of America’s purported White Supremacist problem. For what it’s worth, the SUV wasn’t white either.)

Meanwhile, in the City of Brotherly Love and record-breaking homicide, DA Larry Krasner didn’t pull the trigger when he knocked the bail down from $200,000 to zero and then dropped all charges against (alleged) violent serial criminal Latif Williams. Mr. Williams wasted no time in making good on his inexplicable freedom by (allegedly) murdering Tulane Temple University student Samuel Collington three days ago, while attempting to steal the young man’s SUV and shooting him twice because Mr. Collington was reluctant to surrender the vehicle (which belonged to his mother).

Unlike Kyle Rittenhouse, neither Mr. Brooks nor Mr. Williams is a nerdy little white kid carrying a scary gun. They’re just a couple of guys who can’t stay out of trouble, but who manage to stay out of jail thanks to the generosity of prominent Democratic DAs who are more concerned about being woke than doing their jobs.

2022 is coming.

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  1. Henry Racette Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw.  The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story.  Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for  that ignore button….

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for that ignore button….

    Here’s some more help:

    I’d rather see “Silent Running” again before “Blade Runner.”

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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for that ignore button….

    Here’s some more help:

    I’d rather see “Silent Running” again before “Blade Runner.”

    Aw. Cute movie, though horribly dated. But Blade Runner kind of made sense, whereas there’s no plausible scenario that would have us putting Earth’s last forests on orbital platforms armed with nuclear destruct systems. I liked the little robots and the budget effects, but it was a fundamentally dumb movie.

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for that ignore button….

    Here’s some more help:

    I’d rather see “Silent Running” again before “Blade Runner.”

    Aw. Cute movie, though horribly dated. But Blade Runner kind of made sense, whereas there’s no plausible scenario that would have us putting Earth’s last forests on orbital platforms armed with nuclear destruct systems. I liked the little robots and the budget effects, but it was a fundamentally dumb movie.

    Plausible?  You want to use plausible in a paragraph mentioning “Blade Runner?”

    “Silent Running” dealt with environment, over-use of technology (albeit remotely, I suppose, in that case, since we never actually saw their Earth it was only described), personal relationships and friendships crossed with… hate?…  plus guilt and personal sacrifice…  Whereas “Blade Runner” was just college-freshman navel-gazing, with some pretty pictures and hot actresses.  (And actors I suppose, allowing for Rutger Hauer to charm the ladies…)

    If you haven’t read the original story actually called “The Bladerunner,” you should.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373619914872

    $1500 is a bit steep though.  Here’s a copy for $35 plus shipping.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/154727211144

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for that ignore button….

    Here’s some more help:

    I’d rather see “Silent Running” again before “Blade Runner.”

    Aw. Cute movie, though horribly dated. But Blade Runner kind of made sense, whereas there’s no plausible scenario that would have us putting Earth’s last forests on orbital platforms armed with nuclear destruct systems. I liked the little robots and the budget effects, but it was a fundamentally dumb movie.

    Plausible? You want to use plausible in a paragraph mentioning “Blade Runner?”

    “Silent Running” dealt with environment, over-use of technology (albeit remotely, I suppose, in that case, since we never actually saw their Earth it was only described), personal relationships and friendships crossed with… hate?… plus guilt and personal sacrifice… Whereas “Blade Runner” was just college-freshman navel-gazing, with some pretty pictures and hot actresses. (And actors I suppose, allowing for Rutger Hauer to charm the ladies…)

    If you haven’t read the original story actually called “The Bladerunner,” you should.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373619914872

    $1500 is a bit steep though. Here’s a copy for $35 plus shipping.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/154727211144

    Whatever. You’re wrong.

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    I was thinking of the movie based on Dick.

    Typical.

    Is there another book or movie that shows androids that are indistinguishable from humans and that look like Rutger Hauer? Please share.

    I just figured you had a penchant for Dick.

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for that ignore button….

    Here’s some more help:

    I’d rather see “Silent Running” again before “Blade Runner.”

    Aw. Cute movie, though horribly dated. But Blade Runner kind of made sense, whereas there’s no plausible scenario that would have us putting Earth’s last forests on orbital platforms armed with nuclear destruct systems. I liked the little robots and the budget effects, but it was a fundamentally dumb movie.

    Plausible? You want to use plausible in a paragraph mentioning “Blade Runner?”

    “Silent Running” dealt with environment, over-use of technology (albeit remotely, I suppose, in that case, since we never actually saw their Earth it was only described), personal relationships and friendships crossed with… hate?… plus guilt and personal sacrifice… Whereas “Blade Runner” was just college-freshman navel-gazing, with some pretty pictures and hot actresses. (And actors I suppose, allowing for Rutger Hauer to charm the ladies…)

    If you haven’t read the original story actually called “The Bladerunner,” you should.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373619914872

    $1500 is a bit steep though. Here’s a copy for $35 plus shipping.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/154727211144

    I’ve read some Alan E. Norse, but never Blade Runner.  Didn’t he write the Star Surgeon books?

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for that ignore button….

    Here’s some more help:

    I’d rather see “Silent Running” again before “Blade Runner.”

    Aw. Cute movie, though horribly dated. But Blade Runner kind of made sense, whereas there’s no plausible scenario that would have us putting Earth’s last forests on orbital platforms armed with nuclear destruct systems. I liked the little robots and the budget effects, but it was a fundamentally dumb movie.

    Plausible? You want to use plausible in a paragraph mentioning “Blade Runner?”

    “Silent Running” dealt with environment, over-use of technology (albeit remotely, I suppose, in that case, since we never actually saw their Earth it was only described), personal relationships and friendships crossed with… hate?… plus guilt and personal sacrifice… Whereas “Blade Runner” was just college-freshman navel-gazing, with some pretty pictures and hot actresses. (And actors I suppose, allowing for Rutger Hauer to charm the ladies…)

    If you haven’t read the original story actually called “The Bladerunner,” you should.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373619914872

    $1500 is a bit steep though. Here’s a copy for $35 plus shipping.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/154727211144

    I’ve read some Alan E. Norse, but never Blade Runner. Didn’t he write the Star Surgeon books?

    I don’t remember those other Nourse titles, but James White wrote “Star Surgeon” and “Ambulance Ship” and “Hospital Station”, I read all of those.  And some other White books too, he was good.

    The one-season UPN show “Mercy Point” was about that too.

     

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    The novel The Bladerunner by Alan E Nourse was very good. The movie(s) which actually come from a different story “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” by Philip K. Dick (and “blade running” is never mentioned in that story, but is central to the Nourse book) has never particularly interested me.

    Philistine.

    The movie ranks, with 2001 and Alien,as one of the handful of truly great science fiction movies.

    Naw. The movie doesn’t do a very good job of telling the story, asking the questions, etc, vs the original story. Although I’m not a big fan of Philip K Dick to start with, but I still recognize that what he wrote is superior to the movie.

    Looking for that ignore button….

    Here’s some more help:

    I’d rather see “Silent Running” again before “Blade Runner.”

    Aw. Cute movie, though horribly dated. But Blade Runner kind of made sense, whereas there’s no plausible scenario that would have us putting Earth’s last forests on orbital platforms armed with nuclear destruct systems. I liked the little robots and the budget effects, but it was a fundamentally dumb movie.

    Plausible? You want to use plausible in a paragraph mentioning “Blade Runner?”

    “Silent Running” dealt with environment, over-use of technology (albeit remotely, I suppose, in that case, since we never actually saw their Earth it was only described), personal relationships and friendships crossed with… hate?… plus guilt and personal sacrifice… Whereas “Blade Runner” was just college-freshman navel-gazing, with some pretty pictures and hot actresses. (And actors I suppose, allowing for Rutger Hauer to charm the ladies…)

    If you haven’t read the original story actually called “The Bladerunner,” you should.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373619914872

    $1500 is a bit steep though. Here’s a copy for $35 plus shipping.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/154727211144

    I’ve read some Alan E. Norse, but never Blade Runner. Didn’t he write the Star Surgeon books?

    I don’t remember those other Nourse titles, but James White wrote “Star Surgeon” and “Ambulance Ship” and “Hospital Station”, I read all of those. And some other White books too, he was good.

    The one-season UPN show “Mercy Point” was about that too.

     

    Well, the memory’s faulty.

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    There’s a thread going in the Firing Line group on this.

    Apparently it was an Italian copy of a Colt Single Action Army revolver. Before you can fire a Colt Single Action Army, you have to manually cock the hammer.

    I’ve only ever fired modern revolvers, so I don’t have direct experience. But I’ve read in a few places that it’s possible to partially cock the hammer of a Single Action Army so that when you let it go, expecting it to stay in position, it instead falls back down and fires the pistol.

    If that’s what happened, I still don’t think it exonerates Baldwin because he apparently didn’t check the cylinder for live rounds and he pointed the pistol at the camera crew – both exceedingly negligent.

    But he may be telling the truth about not pulling the trigger.

    I don’t know specifically about this Colt, but I have used revolvers that half cocked. Half cocking, you feel a click half-way through pulling back on the hammer and when you release the hammer it stays half-cocked. If you didn’t pull the hammer back far enough for it to half-cock, or some reason the hammer did not stay securely half-cocked, you would merely let the hammer down.

    If there were a flaw in the half-cock sear, this would be evident on examination.

    Fair enough. But Colt designed the Single Action Army revolver in 1872. If the Italian replica was just a copy of the original, it would be missing about 150 years of firearms safety refinements that we find in modern revolvers. Which is just to say that the way a modern revolver operates may well not be the way that that Italian replica operated.

    Hmmmm. The Italians don’t make an EXACT copy of historical revolvers. The insides the replicas are very different from the origonal as the maker is still subject to getting sued in an incedent if the fault is in the firearm.

    So then, how are they different?

    No revolver sold in the US is sold without significant safety mechinisms unknown in the Colt Peacemaker. For example, the old Colt was flat unsafe to carry with the hammer down on a loaded cylinder as a sharp blow to the hammer (like you could get of the firearm was dropped) could cause it to discharge. All currently (and since the 1980s or so) are “drop safe”. I cannot say how the revolver we are discussing meets the safety criteria without knowing which manafacturer, but, to my knowledge, there is no such thing as a new exact replica of a Colt Peacemaker sold in the US today.

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    …Hmmmm. The Italians don’t make an EXACT copy of historical revolvers. The insides the replicas are very different from the original as the maker is still subject to getting sued in an incident if the fault is in the firearm.

    -Some replicas are exact copies of the original 1873 SAA

    -Some replicas are not and have modern safety features

    …To get this gun to actually fire with the hammer down and the trigger untouched requires specific kinds of forces to get the hammer or the firing pin to strike the cartridge primer? I would think that dropping the gun on the hammer might do it, or perhaps dropping the gun in such a way that the firing pin has the momentum to move forward in its channel to strike the primer. But none of these happen by simply lifting the gun from a holster and raising it to the horizontal.

    The article mentions transfer bar and floating firing pin.

    Original Colt SAA’s use a series of notches in the hammer as sear engagements to keep the hammer back when cocked. If these notches are worn or have been filed (to “lighten” the trigger) the gun can accidently discharge by cocking the hammer without pulling the trigger. That’s where the “Hammer down on an empty cylinder” rule came from.

    A transfer bar physically blocks the hammer from striking the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. I suppose a transfer bar mechanism could be disabled if it were extremely dirty or damaged but I think it would be highly unlikely.

     

    Disagree. Note the discription says “No safety is visible in the hammer.” Which indicates there IS a safety involved.

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    There’s a thread going in the Firing Line group on this.

    Apparently it was an Italian copy of a Colt Single Action Army revolver. Before you can fire a Colt Single Action Army, you have to manually cock the hammer.

    I’ve only ever fired modern revolvers, so I don’t have direct experience. But I’ve read in a few places that it’s possible to partially cock the hammer of a Single Action Army so that when you let it go, expecting it to stay in position, it instead falls back down and fires the pistol.

    If that’s what happened, I still don’t think it exonerates Baldwin because he apparently didn’t check the cylinder for live rounds and he pointed the pistol at the camera crew – both exceedingly negligent.

    But he may be telling the truth about not pulling the trigger.

    I don’t know specifically about this Colt, but I have used revolvers that half cocked. Half cocking, you feel a click half-way through pulling back on the hammer and when you release the hammer it stays half-cocked. If you didn’t pull the hammer back far enough for it to half-cock, or some reason the hammer did not stay securely half-cocked, you would merely let the hammer down.

    If there were a flaw in the half-cock sear, this would be evident on examination.

    Fair enough. But Colt designed the Single Action Army revolver in 1872. If the Italian replica was just a copy of the original, it would be missing about 150 years of firearms safety refinements that we find in modern revolvers. Which is just to say that the way a modern revolver operates may well not be the way that that Italian replica operated.

    Hmmmm. The Italians don’t make an EXACT copy of historical revolvers. The insides the replicas are very different from the origonal as the maker is still subject to getting sued in an incedent if the fault is in the firearm.

    So then, how are they different?

    No revolver sold in the US is sold without significant safety mechinisms unknown in the Colt Peacemaker. For example, the old Colt was flat unsafe to carry with the hammer down on a loaded cylinder as a sharp blow to the hammer (like you could get of the firearm was dropped) could cause it to discharge. All currently (and since the 1980s or so) are “drop safe”. I cannot say how the revolver we are discussing meets the safety criteria without knowing which manafacturer, but, to my knowledge, there is no such thing as a new exact replica of a Colt Peacemaker sold in the US today.

    Thanks.  Do you know if the modern Cold Peacemaker (I don’t even know if that’s what was used) has a half-cock position?

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    If you chamber a round on a Glock the pistol is ready to fire. The only way I know of to “uncock” the Glock is to eject the round by pulling the slide all the way back. The slide should lock open after the round is ejected. The magazine must be empty, or removed before pulling the slide back or you will chamber another round if it contains rounds.

    That’s why I can’t stand a Glock. My preference is old-school S&W 59. If there’s a round in the chamber and it is cocked, you can simply engage the safety, and the hammer comes down and hits a hammer block. It’s now ready for double action. (This is probably surer than holding the hammer back, pulling the trigger, and then lowering the hammer manually.)

    There is a lot to be said in favor of a ‘single-double’ gun like the S&W 59 and 69 series (and many others of the same era). Once you understand that the de-cocker works as advertised, it’s about as safe as any semi-auto pistol can be.

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    I have not been paying that much attention to the AB shooting so really know with this level of detail what sort of gun he was using.  I have a couple of versions of these.  The only way AB could do what he is saying is with a altered gun which would not be the case coming out of the hands of a armorer unless they had a very specific reason to make it that way and then they would require it to be handled differently.

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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22.  It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather.  They have been in the family for decades.  Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.  

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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    Wait a minute?  Where were Jussie Smollet’s Nigerians?

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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS. 

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that.  But it’s in there as a risk.

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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS.

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that. But it’s in there as a risk.

    Have you read my lawnmower instructions.  I am pretty sure there is warning about using it around water on the moon.  They cover about everything.  

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  24. Randy Webster Inactive
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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS.

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that. But it’s in there as a risk.

    Have you read my lawnmower instructions. I am pretty sure there is warning about using it around water on the moon. They cover about everything.

    Shades of Wonko the Sane.

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  25. DoubleDare Inactive
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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS.

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that. But it’s in there as a risk.

    Have you read my lawnmower instructions. I am pretty sure there is warning about using it around water on the moon. They cover about everything.

     

     

    It’s pretty specific.  I’d expect the lawyers for all parties in the AB matter are at least looking at it.

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  26. Manny Coolidge
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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    Wait a minute? Where were Jussie Smollet’s Nigerians?

    LOL!

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  27. Manny Coolidge
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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS.

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that. But it’s in there as a risk.

    But that will be provable if that’s what happen.  I’m sure the authorities have the gun in hand.  If it’s broken, then AB may have an alibi.  But I doubt it.

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  28. Flicker Coolidge
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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS.

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that. But it’s in there as a risk.

    Again, if this were so, it would be shown in a 15-minute inspection.

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  29. Flicker Coolidge
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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS.

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that. But it’s in there as a risk.

    Have you read my lawnmower instructions. I am pretty sure there is warning about using it around water on the moon. They cover about everything.

     

     

    It’s pretty specific. I’d expect the lawyers for all parties in the AB matter are at least looking at it.

    He said he never pulled the trigger.  Is it possible that he meant he never pulled the trigger after cocking the gun?  And what he’s saying is that he did pulled the trigger before and was pulling the trigger while cocking he gun?

    How many ways can we reinterpret his clear description of what he did so that it makes any sense?

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
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    I have a couple of Uberti 45’s and a 22. It would be difficult to set them off accidentally.

    I inherited mine from my father and grandfather. They have been in the family for decades. Not once did they ever go off on their own but it seems that AB ones do that all the time.

    I’m thinking the AB story is most likely BS.

    But if you read Colt’s manual for the Single Action Army, it goes on at length about the risks of pulling the trigger too hard in half-cocked position, which may break the sear indents and later, allow the gun to fire when it shouldn’t.

    That may speak more to Colt’s lawyers’ concerns about liability than the likelihood of actually doing that. But it’s in there as a risk.

    Have you read my lawnmower instructions. I am pretty sure there is warning about using it around water on the moon. They cover about everything.

     

     

    It’s pretty specific. I’d expect the lawyers for all parties in the AB matter are at least looking at it.

    He said he never pulled the trigger. Is it possible that he meant he never pulled the trigger after cocking the gun? And what he’s saying is that he did pulled the trigger before and was pulling the trigger while cocking he gun?

    How many ways can we reinterpret his clear description of what he did so that it makes any sense?

    It’s also possible that he’s just plain lying.

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