Toxic Swampulinitiy

Hello there, HLC mavens! Welcome to the HLC podcast for January 15, 2019 (this is Todd Feinburg’s birthday week podcast) with your hosts, the aforementioned Todd Feinburg, radio guy, and Mike Stopa the as yet to be mentioned west coast AI guy. We are here every week etc. etc. as you well know.

This week, we discuss toxic masculinity as seen through the eyes of everyday guys who are shaving their ugly masculine faces and thinking deep inside about the sexual harassment that they are planning for the day…or something. Has Gillette blown away a significant part of their patronage by insulting men for being men?

Then, Donald continues to confront the ugly Swamp. The FBI has been after DJT from the beginning. The NYT says so! And they also say that there is actually no evidence that any collusion has taken place between Trump Inc. and Putin et al. We will discuss.

Todd waxes eloquent about the rock and roll documentary Oasis Supersonic. Mike shares the experience of having a colonoscopy in California. And our hidden gem for the week (continuing with Mike’s sordid life psychodrama) is Red Rubber Ball by the Cyrkle….which hopefully means an end to all that! Enjoy dahling!

I should have known you’d bid me farewell,

There’s a lesson to be learned from this and I’ve learned it very well.

Now I know you’re not the only starfish in the sea,

If I never hear your name again it’s all the same to me.

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There are 7 comments.

  1. mildlyo Member

    I continue to enjoy the dynamic where Mike tells salty stories and Todd’s dirty jokes fly over Mike’s head.

    Sorry to hear that the deepstate grind is starting to get to Todd. Sometimes there isn’t a pony under that pile of manure.

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    • January 16, 2019, at 9:28 AM PST
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  2. Michael Stopa Podcaster

    mildlyo (View Comment):

    I continue to enjoy the dynamic where Mike tells salty stories and Todd’s dirty jokes fly over Mike’s head.

    Sorry to hear that the deepstate grind is starting to get to Todd. Sometimes there isn’t a pony under that pile of manure.

    Just because I ignore them *does not* mean they are “flying over my head!”

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    • January 16, 2019, at 10:19 AM PST
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  3. colleenb Member

    Yeah @mildlyo what it getting to Todd? Perhaps he’s realized that James Comey is indeed the paragon of civil virtue currently in the US today (as Mr. Comey thinks of himself). And Mike, I think anything with ‘toxic’ in it (ie Gillette referring to toxic masculinity) is generally not considered a compliment or positive. Finally Todd ‘Happy Birthday’ from not only another January birthday but now the grandmother of a January birthday. And I loved hearing Red Rubber Ball.

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    • January 16, 2019, at 11:00 AM PST
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  4. mildlyo Member

    Michael Stopa (View Comment):

    mildlyo (View Comment):

    I continue to enjoy the dynamic where Mike tells salty stories and Todd’s dirty jokes fly over Mike’s head.

    Sorry to hear that the deepstate grind is starting to get to Todd. Sometimes there isn’t a pony under that pile of manure.

    Just because I ignore them *does not* mean they are “flying over my head!”

    Point for Stopa.

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    • January 16, 2019, at 11:20 AM PST
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  5. LibertyDefender Member

    Sheesh.

    You guys were both off your feed on this one. Yes Stopa, Noxzema did indeed broadcast shave cream ads, and they were brilliant. Overflowing with toxic masculinity, as Miss Sweden 1961 breathily urged men to “take it off, take it all off,” to the musical accompaniment of David Rose’s classic “The Stripper.” Heck, Joe Namath got creamed with Noxzema by Farrah Fawcett.

    Feinburg, I don’t understand what you were trying to say regarding Gillette’s justification for, or origin of this ad, but it’s not complicated. The pussyfication of men continues. Gillette hired a woman to tell men how to sell razors to men. Think about that: there are so many ways that move by Gillette could (will, did) go wrong, and not a single way it could possibly go right. You are absolutely correct that the commercial is disgusting, but your and Stopa’s descriptions of it sound more like praise than criticism.

    • In the cartoon where the men are wolf whistling, they’re in a jury box, and the witness is smiling, clearly enjoying the attention;
    • While the men are grilling (horrors!), the boys are wrasslin’ on the grass – yes(, dammit Gillette) – boys will be boys.

    Seriously, Gillette? Cartoons? Grilling? Wrasslin’? This is the foundation of your “all men are bad” campaign?

    I don’t know if I have the time or the stomach to go into Feinburg’s excuse-making for the Deep State. There is ZERO evidence that Trump is, or even might possibly be, a Russian agent or a Russian asset. Feinburg – as a talk radio host, you likely know that if you say something on the radio such as “boy, I feel like shooting the President,” you’ll get a visit from the Secret Service, and you’ll have to explain to them that you were only joking. (Seriously though – were you only joking, Feinburg? You can tell us.) But there has to be evidence just to open the investigation! Evidence like saying something on the radio such as “boy, I feel like shooting the President.” By what – March of 2017, when the FBI opened the investigation, the evidence was clear that Trump is tougher on Russia than any previous president since Reagan, as even the never-Trump bozos at the Commentary Magazine podcast are willing to admit.

    Stopa, you should have opened the podcast with your shower thought. That would have been great foreshadowing of where the podcast was going.

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    • January 17, 2019, at 8:15 AM PST
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  6. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    IIRC in the Gillette ad the “toxic” men are white and the “non-toxic” heroes are non-white, which gives a certain other undercurrent.

    I think Todd’s given in to a bit of the gaslighting. So many leaks that seem to indicate impropriety he starts thinking maybe they had a point other than to undermine the incoming administration. Because all campaigns are dirty, it’s not some outlier of being a more corrupt campaign.

    Not to the extreme of Podhoretz who said that Obama was “concerned” about a foreign asset being elected that he started this unmasking stuff.

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    • January 17, 2019, at 8:50 AM PST
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  7. Michael Stopa Podcaster

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Stopa, you should have opened the podcast with your shower thought. That would have been great foreshadowing of where the podcast was going.

    Snarky, L.D., snarky!

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    • January 18, 2019, at 11:15 AM PST
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