Trump Is Done

 

Trump gets full credit for destroying himself and his Presidency. And he finally did it single-handedly. We have all put up with his rudeness, crassness, and inconsistencies, and I was willing to go along.

Until now.

Trump’s protesting the election was understandable. But once he voiced his protests, he should have just done his job and limited his comments; instead, he kept inciting his most passionate followers and everyone else within shouting distance. Yes, I think it’s entirely possible that those who crashed the Capitol were not just his fans, but those who were just waiting for an opportunity to incite violence, just like the riots we saw in several major cities. And Trump gave them the cover to attack.

I hate violence. I hate breaking the law. I hate those who threaten others. And Trump essentially encouraged all of it. Even when he told people to go home today, he had to say just one more time that he was cheated in the election. He should be ashamed.

But he doesn’t have the decency to be ashamed. He’s just angry. Which justifies his insulting his vice president who put up with his abasement of him for years with class, diligence, and allegiance. And Trump thanked him by trying to discredit him.

I can tolerate a great deal from a person when they get things done. But to a great extent, Trump brought much of the hatred towards him on himself. Those who sabotaged him were incited by his disdain for them and his nastiness.

Yes, Trump did many good things during his Presidency. But those accomplishments will be overshadowed by his lack of discipline and lack of respect for those who had tried to serve him well.

He’s done.

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  1. The Reticulator Member
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    Do you mean in what they thought or in what they said?  They were right to think of him as a threat to their socio-economic hegemony. What they said, not so much.  

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  2. Manny Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    I don’t know if Donald Trump is capable of that kind of self-analysis and awareness; I think he’d be infinitely more likable and relatable if he were. (He might be looking forward to his second term as President as well.) And I think that today he’s a sad figure who’s diminishing his legacy, not by talking about election fraud, which is an entirely real and legitimate issue–crimenutely, it’s an issue the Democrats spent four years tub-thumping about and tying Trump’s hands on, with absolutely no basis in fact), but through some of his associations and some of his recent statements which, in addition to being troubling, are not helped by his rambling and unfocused delivery or by his refusal, ever, to admit of fault or error.

    Thanks, She. This about sums it up in my mind. Yes, he may very well be seen as the tragic hero. But not yet.

    That’s a spot on comment from She. There’s a deficiency in Trump in terms of ego and self-restraint. Lack of self-reflection wraps up into that.  I was trying to allude to his mental problem above.  

    I do want to add I have no regrets of voting for him against Hillary. Flawed man or not, he was still the better choice. 

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  3. EHerring Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):
    This time, the failure was as much because of the tragic flaws manifested today in our country: a press that is the propaganda arm of the Democrats, a sorry election system that enables fraud and doubt, big tech, corporations that want open borders, an out of control administrative state, corrupt politicians, greedy voters who want the government to be Santa, a secular society, and a cultural war long lost. It might be cute blaming Trump, but all those problems are not new. The people allowed them to fester.

    I think I see your point, EHerring. All of those entities are complicit for creating these circumstances. But that doesn’t let Trump off the hook. I have often condemned all of them. And when you say “the people” let those entities fester, I wonder what the people would have done to stop them? But that’s another post.

    The Republicans in a Congress are showing you how much turning the other cheek and accepting problems so as to avoid conflict will fix things. We are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. The Constitution’s expiration date is approaching. We have yet to see Marxism create a polite society.

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  4. The Reticulator Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    I’ll tip my hand. I believe that it’s real and the source of much of the loyalty he engenders in many people. There is a significant segment of the country that is incredibly tired of the America-bashing from the left. While I understand that certain of Trump’s “values” are open to question, he has at least one redeeming one, and it’s one that’s really needed.

    I’ve never doubted his patriotism. But the real question is, how long are we willing to forgive him because he loves his country?

    Until a better alternative shows up.  

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  5. EHerring Coolidge
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

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    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No. Just that he was a flawed human being that let his flaws get the better of him. He was still a far better president than Hilary Clinton would have been and he would have been a better president that Biden will be. If he had played his cards right in the last two months he would have been a front runner for 2024. As it is I doubt that happens now.

    Hillary Clinton would have handled Covid better than Trump and she would not have attempted a coup on the day that Nikki Haley was officially designated the next president.

    That alone would have made her a better president than Trump.

    Hillary would have handled covid about as well as she handled Benghazi. She put a coup in place day one after the election. Her folks paid for the Russian disinformation in the dossier then peddled it. Far more people died in her “embassy” than died in the capitol yesterday. Trump isn’t leaving behind deep state coup plotters.

    [Edited to change “is” to “isn’t” in last sentence]

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  6. EHerring Coolidge
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

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    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No because until the post-election break with reality, Trump was largely toothless – bluster and ego, but unwilling to act himself even as he egged on others to act for him, or mocked them if they did act for him but failed. He had many many other ample opportunities live down to your expectations, but did not do so.

    And yet in the end, he went lower than I imagined he would ever go.

    And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.

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  7. Raxxalan Member
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Susan, I remember a while back you had a post called “Trump Broke Ricochet,” or something like that. This was during the 2016 campaign. You were completely right.

    Another institution that Trump has ruined.

    Trump actually didn’t ruin many of the institutions people accuse him of.  He did expose that there is a great amount of rot in those institutions.  As Shapiro often puts it “He was the Undertaker not the Murderer.”   Exposing the rot in a once beautiful thing is painful; however, it is necessary if there is going to be a restoration.  It is possible though that just because he performed a valuable function of exposing the rot, doesn’t mean he is the right person to direct the restoration.   I can guarantee that neither Biden nor Harris is the right person either.    

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  8. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    I haven’t read all of the posts here, but I don’t have to. There is a contingent who will support Trump no matter what he says or does. That has remained unchanged through the last four years. Then there are those of us who were, shall I say, Trump skeptics. I didn’t vote for him in 2016, but over the last four years I felt good enough about the things his administration accomplished (I say that advisedly, Trump himself did little, those he appointed and Mitch McConnell did the most), and I did vote for him in 2020. Like most, I was disappointed at his loss, but I did not believe for a minute that he had a “landslide victory” stolen from him. The poll, such as they are, at no time pointed to a decisive victory for him. He was never favored to win. At best, we thought that, maybe, he could pull through with a slider. Alas, that didn’t happen, and the consequences are something that looks like the final scenes of King Lear, but rather than a short hour or so, they have dragged on for two months. He has gone off the edge. He is no longer fit to hold the office. He has no dignity, no integrity, and, at this point, very likely far less support than he had during the election in November. Of the 74 Million people who voted for him, I truly wonder how many would do so today. I know I sure wouldn’t.

    I detest Biden, and have even more contempt for Harris, but both of them have far more understanding of the workings of government and the responsibilities of leadership than Trump has. They have made stupid comments, but nothing to compare to the rabble rousing that Trump has participated in for the last two months, all of which precipitated what happened yesterday. I am fully in agreement with those who want Trump removed from office NOW, not 14 days from now. His cabinet members and advisors are resigning. He is in deep decline and, given his past performance, it is uncertain what he might do. He isn’t acting like a sane individual. He needs to be gone. The sooner the better!

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Raxxalan (View Comment):
    Trump actually didn’t ruin many of the institutions people accuse him of. He did expose that there is a great amount of rot in those institutions. As Shapiro often puts it “He was the Undertaker not the Murderer.”

    I never had a post with that title. It might have been the Trump Fatigue Syndrome, but he doesn’t have the power to break Ricochet. Only we can do that.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    They have made stupid comments, but nothing to compare to the rabble rousing that Trump has participated in for the last two months, all of which precipitated what happened yesterday

    What about the video interview in which Kamala Harris says the protests are necessary and should continue?   That was far more rabble rousing than anything Trump has done. 

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  11. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    I am fully in agreement with those who want Trump removed from office NOW, not 14 days from now. His cabinet members and advisors are resigning. He is in deep decline and, given his past performance, it is uncertain what he might do. He isn’t acting like a sane individual. He needs to be gone. The sooner the better!

    I think practically that would be impossible to do, Eugene, and frankly I doubt he can do much harm in the next few weeks anyway. January 20 will come soon enough.

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  12. Viruscop Inactive
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    EHerring (View Comment):

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    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No because until the post-election break with reality, Trump was largely toothless – bluster and ego, but unwilling to act himself even as he egged on others to act for him, or mocked them if they did act for him but failed. He had many many other ample opportunities live down to your expectations, but did not do so.

    And yet in the end, he went lower than I imagined he would ever go.

    And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.

    Even if you believed the Dems burned down our cities, that would not have ended American democracy. What would have happened if the terrorists were never cleared from the capitol? What would have happened if the bombs were not disarmed?

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  13. Percival Thatcher
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    She (View Comment):
    I don’t know if Donald Trump is capable of that kind of self-analysis and awareness; I think he’d be infinitely more likable and relatable if he were.

    Maybe not infinitely, but considerably more likable and relatable.

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  14. Manny Coolidge
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    There is no reason to remove Trump from office with two weeks left of a lame duck presidency. It would just be vengeance and harmful to the Republic. If Trump being done refers to that, I don’t concur with that. 

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  15. The Reticulator Member
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    Viruscop (View Comment):
    What would have happened if the protestors were never cleared from the capitol. 

    Nothing much. Nancy Pelosi and Schumer decides everything together with a handful of helpers, and they don’t need the big rooms in the marble office building in which to do it.  Besides, the protesters can hardly trash the place any worse than it has been trashed by Congress itself. 

     

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  16. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Manny (View Comment):

    There is no reason to remove Trump from office with two weeks left of a lame duck presidency. It would just be vengeance and harmful to the Republic. If Trump being done refers to that, I don’t concur with that.

    See my comment #131

    I meant two things: for me, my support was gone. And I think he will have a tough time coming back into the political realm, if he should try to.

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  17. Viruscop Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):
    What would have happened if the protestors were never cleared from the capitol.

    Nothing much. Nancy Pelosi and Schumer decides everything together with a handful of helpers, and they don’t need the big rooms in the marble office building in which to do it. Besides, the protesters can hardly trash the place any worse than it has been trashed by Congress itself.

     

    You left out the part about the bombs.

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  18. Raxxalan Member
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

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    Viruscop (View Comment):
    What would have happened if the protestors were never cleared from the capitol.

    Nothing much. Nancy Pelosi and Schumer decides everything together with a handful of helpers, and they don’t need the big rooms in the marble office building in which to do it. Besides, the protesters can hardly trash the place any worse than it has been trashed by Congress itself.

     

    You left out the part about the bombs.

    You realize it has been bombed before right?  Not condoning this activity but to say that a bomb going off in the building would have ended American democracy is a touch over dramatic.  I have little doubt the responsible parties will be arrested and have the book thrown at them.  That is the appropriate legal response.  Extra legal actions by either side are fundamentally unhelpful at this point. 

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  19. SkipSul Inactive
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

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    Viruscop (View Comment):

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    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No because until the post-election break with reality, Trump was largely toothless – bluster and ego, but unwilling to act himself even as he egged on others to act for him, or mocked them if they did act for him but failed. He had many many other ample opportunities live down to your expectations, but did not do so.

    And yet in the end, he went lower than I imagined he would ever go.

    And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.

    Even if you believed the Dems burned down our cities, that would not have ended American democracy. What would have happened if the terrorists were never cleared from the capitol? What would have happened if the bombs were not disarmed?

    What would have happened if Nancy Pelosi failed to evacuate in time because she ran back for her silly giant show gavel?

    What would have happened if Cocaine Mitch had pulled out his six-shooters, gave the Rebel Yell, and charged the crowd?

    What would have happened if Dianne Feinstein had wandered off to the bathroom and got lost?

    What would have happened if Ted Cruz shouted to Josh Hawley “I AM SUPERMAN! COME WITH ME, BOY WONDER, AND LET US SAVE THE DAY!”, then ripped off his suit, threw a grappling hook onto the balcony, and swung away like Tarzan?

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  20. Manny Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    There is no reason to remove Trump from office with two weeks left of a lame duck presidency. It would just be vengeance and harmful to the Republic. If Trump being done refers to that, I don’t concur with that.

    See my comment #131

    I meant two things: for me, my support was gone. And I think he will have a tough time coming back into the political realm, if he should try to.

    Ok. I agree with you.

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  21. Raxxalan Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Raxxalan (View Comment):
    Trump actually didn’t ruin many of the institutions people accuse him of. He did expose that there is a great amount of rot in those institutions. As Shapiro often puts it “He was the Undertaker not the Murderer.”

    I never had a post with that title. It might have been the Trump Fatigue Syndrome, but he doesn’t have the power to break Ricochet. Only we can do that.

    @susanquinn, I was using it as a riff on a more common refrain.   I agree with your sentiment and didn’t ascribe any malice to you.  

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  22. Viruscop Inactive
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    Raxxalan (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):

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    Viruscop (View Comment):
    What would have happened if the protestors were never cleared from the capitol.

    Nothing much. Nancy Pelosi and Schumer decides everything together with a handful of helpers, and they don’t need the big rooms in the marble office building in which to do it. Besides, the protesters can hardly trash the place any worse than it has been trashed by Congress itself.

     

    You left out the part about the bombs.

    You realize it has been bombed before right? Not condoning this activity but to say that a bomb going off in the building would have ended American democracy is a touch over dramatic. I have little doubt the responsible parties will be arrested and have the book thrown at them. That is the appropriate legal response. Extra legal actions by either side are fundamentally unhelpful at this point.

    The point of my comment was that The Reticulator was minimizing the violence and evil of the terrorists.

    “Nothing Much…the protestors can hardly trash the place any worse than it has been trashed by Congress itself.”

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  23. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    SkipSul (View Comment):

    What would have happened if Nancy Pelosi failed to evacuate in time because she ran back for her silly giant show gavel?

    What would have happened if Cocaine Mitch had pulled out his six-shooters, gave the Rebel Yell, and charged the crowd?

    What would have happened if Dianne Feinstein had wandered off to the bathroom and got lost?

    What would have happened if Ted Cruz shouted to Josh Hawley “I AM SUPERMAN! COME WITH ME, BOY WONDER, AND LET US SAVE THE DAY!”, then ripped off his suit, threw a grappling hook onto the balcony, and swung away like Tarzan?

    ;-))

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  24. Viruscop Inactive
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    SkipSul (View Comment):

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    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No because until the post-election break with reality, Trump was largely toothless – bluster and ego, but unwilling to act himself even as he egged on others to act for him, or mocked them if they did act for him but failed. He had many many other ample opportunities live down to your expectations, but did not do so.

    And yet in the end, he went lower than I imagined he would ever go.

    And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.

    Even if you believed the Dems burned down our cities, that would not have ended American democracy. What would have happened if the terrorists were never cleared from the capitol? What would have happened if the bombs were not disarmed?

    What would have happened if Nancy Pelosi failed to evacuate in time because she ran back for her silly giant show gavel?

    What would have happened if Cocaine Mitch had pulled out his six-shooters, gave the Rebel Yell, and charged the crowd?

    What would have happened if Dianne Feinstein had wandered off to the bathroom and got lost?

    What would have happened if Ted Cruz shouted to Josh Hawley “I AM SUPERMAN! COME WITH ME, BOY WONDER, AND LET US SAVE THE DAY!”, then ripped off his suit, threw a grappling hook onto the balcony, and swung away like Tarzan?

    That last one would never have happened. It’s more likely that they would try to lead the terrorists.

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  25. Raxxalan Member
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    SkipSul (View Comment):

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    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No because until the post-election break with reality, Trump was largely toothless – bluster and ego, but unwilling to act himself even as he egged on others to act for him, or mocked them if they did act for him but failed. He had many many other ample opportunities live down to your expectations, but did not do so.

    And yet in the end, he went lower than I imagined he would ever go.

    And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.

    Even if you believed the Dems burned down our cities, that would not have ended American democracy. What would have happened if the terrorists were never cleared from the capitol? What would have happened if the bombs were not disarmed?

    What would have happened if Nancy Pelosi failed to evacuate in time because she ran back for her silly giant show gavel?

    What would have happened if Cocaine Mitch had pulled out his six-shooters, gave the Rebel Yell, and charged the crowd?

    What would have happened if Dianne Feinstein had wandered off to the bathroom and got lost?

    What would have happened if Ted Cruz shouted to Josh Hawley “I AM SUPERMAN! COME WITH ME, BOY WONDER, AND LET US SAVE THE DAY!”, then ripped off his suit, threw a grappling hook onto the balcony, and swung away like Tarzan?

    You just brightened my day.  Thank you.

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  26. SkipSul Inactive
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    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No because until the post-election break with reality, Trump was largely toothless – bluster and ego, but unwilling to act himself even as he egged on others to act for him, or mocked them if they did act for him but failed. He had many many other ample opportunities live down to your expectations, but did not do so.

    And yet in the end, he went lower than I imagined he would ever go.

    And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.

    Even if you believed the Dems burned down our cities, that would not have ended American democracy. What would have happened if the terrorists were never cleared from the capitol? What would have happened if the bombs were not disarmed?

    What would have happened if Nancy Pelosi failed to evacuate in time because she ran back for her silly giant show gavel?

    What would have happened if Cocaine Mitch had pulled out his six-shooters, gave the Rebel Yell, and charged the crowd?

    What would have happened if Dianne Feinstein had wandered off to the bathroom and got lost?

    What would have happened if Ted Cruz shouted to Josh Hawley “I AM SUPERMAN! COME WITH ME, BOY WONDER, AND LET US SAVE THE DAY!”, then ripped off his suit, threw a grappling hook onto the balcony, and swung away like Tarzan?

    That last one would never have happened. It’s more likely that they would try to lead the terrorists.

    So you admit the others are possibilities too?

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  27. J Climacus Member
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

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    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No. Just that he was a flawed human being that let his flaws get the better of him. He was still a far better president than Hilary Clinton would have been and he would have been a better president that Biden will be. If he had played his cards right in the last two months he would have been a front runner for 2024. As it is I doubt that happens now.

    Hillary Clinton would have handled Covid better than Trump and she would not have attempted a coup on the day that Nikki Haley was officially designated the next president.

    That alone would have made her a better president than Trump.

    Handle Covid better? The one consistent thing about Hillary is that everything she has ever touched has turned to – well – let’s call it crap. Ideology aside, she’s simply grossly incompetent. I’ve always been amazed why the left was so determined to hitch its wagon to such a mediocrity.

    Let’s consider it from the perspective of a generic leftist. Early on last winter, when Trump was restricting travel from China, the left reflexively denounced the policy as “xenophobic” and well into March were forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes, again for purely ideological reasons (“discrimination”). The latter policy is responsible for most of the COVID deaths so far.  It’s fair to assume that Hillary would have attempted to follow the early leftist ideological response to COVID, but on a national scale. I see no reason to think the COVID outcome would have not been far worse with Hillary.

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  28. Viruscop Inactive
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    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No because until the post-election break with reality, Trump was largely toothless – bluster and ego, but unwilling to act himself even as he egged on others to act for him, or mocked them if they did act for him but failed. He had many many other ample opportunities live down to your expectations, but did not do so.

    And yet in the end, he went lower than I imagined he would ever go.

    And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.

    Even if you believed the Dems burned down our cities, that would not have ended American democracy. What would have happened if the terrorists were never cleared from the capitol? What would have happened if the bombs were not disarmed?

    What would have happened if Nancy Pelosi failed to evacuate in time because she ran back for her silly giant show gavel?

    What would have happened if Cocaine Mitch had pulled out his six-shooters, gave the Rebel Yell, and charged the crowd?

    What would have happened if Dianne Feinstein had wandered off to the bathroom and got lost?

    What would have happened if Ted Cruz shouted to Josh Hawley “I AM SUPERMAN! COME WITH ME, BOY WONDER, AND LET US SAVE THE DAY!”, then ripped off his suit, threw a grappling hook onto the balcony, and swung away like Tarzan?

    That last one would never have happened. It’s more likely that they would try to lead the terrorists.

    So you admit the others are possibilities too?

    They are more plausible than the last one, but less plausible than Cruz and Hawley leading the terrorists to proclaim Trump Czar.

    I can see Feinstein getting lost.

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  29. Viruscop Inactive
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    Do you admit that the left was right about Trump all along?

    No. Just that he was a flawed human being that let his flaws get the better of him. He was still a far better president than Hilary Clinton would have been and he would have been a better president that Biden will be. If he had played his cards right in the last two months he would have been a front runner for 2024. As it is I doubt that happens now.

    Hillary Clinton would have handled Covid better than Trump and she would not have attempted a coup on the day that Nikki Haley was officially designated the next president.

    That alone would have made her a better president than Trump.

    Handle Covid better? The one consistent thing about Hillary is that everything she has ever touched has turned to – well – let’s call it crap. Ideology aside, she’s simply grossly incompetent. I’ve always been amazed why the left was so determined to hitch its wagon to such a mediocrity.

    Let’s consider it from the perspective of a generic leftist. Early on last winter, when Trump was restricting travel from China, the left reflexively denounced the policy as “xenophobic” and well into March were forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes, again for purely ideological reasons (“discrimination”). The latter policy is responsible for most of the COVID deaths so far. It’s fair to assume that Hillary would have attempted to follow the early leftist ideological response to COVID, but on a national scale. I see no reason to think the COVID outcome would have been far worse with Hillary.

    Hillary would not have played down the virus like Trump did. Richard Epstein’s musings upon the virus would also not have been circulating within the White House, so I think that would have saved tens of thousands of lives.

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  30. Percival Thatcher
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    EHerring (View Comment):

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    Skyler (View Comment):
    election fraud is a reprehensible and unforgivable crime

    You know what else is a reprehensible crime? Making false accusations of election fraud.

    If the Democrats believe the system doesn’t enable fraud, then let them implement it for gun sales… no more NICS background checks, no ID needed to purchase, a right that must be allowed at no cost to avoid suppression, make the system so that it encourages as many people to own a gun as possible, no matter their knowledge on how to use one, allow felons to own guns, allow purchases through direct mail delivery without requiring FDL in the middle, use the honor system….

     

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