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Trump Is Done
Trump gets full credit for destroying himself and his Presidency. And he finally did it single-handedly. We have all put up with his rudeness, crassness, and inconsistencies, and I was willing to go along.
Until now.
Trump’s protesting the election was understandable. But once he voiced his protests, he should have just done his job and limited his comments; instead, he kept inciting his most passionate followers and everyone else within shouting distance. Yes, I think it’s entirely possible that those who crashed the Capitol were not just his fans, but those who were just waiting for an opportunity to incite violence, just like the riots we saw in several major cities. And Trump gave them the cover to attack.
I hate violence. I hate breaking the law. I hate those who threaten others. And Trump essentially encouraged all of it. Even when he told people to go home today, he had to say just one more time that he was cheated in the election. He should be ashamed.
But he doesn’t have the decency to be ashamed. He’s just angry. Which justifies his insulting his vice president who put up with his abasement of him for years with class, diligence, and allegiance. And Trump thanked him by trying to discredit him.
I can tolerate a great deal from a person when they get things done. But to a great extent, Trump brought much of the hatred towards him on himself. Those who sabotaged him were incited by his disdain for them and his nastiness.
Yes, Trump did many good things during his Presidency. But those accomplishments will be overshadowed by his lack of discipline and lack of respect for those who had tried to serve him well.
He’s done.
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Do you mean in what they thought or in what they said? They were right to think of him as a threat to their socio-economic hegemony. What they said, not so much.
That’s a spot on comment from She. There’s a deficiency in Trump in terms of ego and self-restraint. Lack of self-reflection wraps up into that. I was trying to allude to his mental problem above.
I do want to add I have no regrets of voting for him against Hillary. Flawed man or not, he was still the better choice.
The Republicans in a Congress are showing you how much turning the other cheek and accepting problems so as to avoid conflict will fix things. We are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. The Constitution’s expiration date is approaching. We have yet to see Marxism create a polite society.
Until a better alternative shows up.
Hillary would have handled covid about as well as she handled Benghazi. She put a coup in place day one after the election. Her folks paid for the Russian disinformation in the dossier then peddled it. Far more people died in her “embassy” than died in the capitol yesterday. Trump isn’t leaving behind deep state coup plotters.
[Edited to change “is” to “isn’t” in last sentence]
And yet that wasn’t very low compared to what the Democrats foisted on our cities.
Trump actually didn’t ruin many of the institutions people accuse him of. He did expose that there is a great amount of rot in those institutions. As Shapiro often puts it “He was the Undertaker not the Murderer.” Exposing the rot in a once beautiful thing is painful; however, it is necessary if there is going to be a restoration. It is possible though that just because he performed a valuable function of exposing the rot, doesn’t mean he is the right person to direct the restoration. I can guarantee that neither Biden nor Harris is the right person either.
I haven’t read all of the posts here, but I don’t have to. There is a contingent who will support Trump no matter what he says or does. That has remained unchanged through the last four years. Then there are those of us who were, shall I say, Trump skeptics. I didn’t vote for him in 2016, but over the last four years I felt good enough about the things his administration accomplished (I say that advisedly, Trump himself did little, those he appointed and Mitch McConnell did the most), and I did vote for him in 2020. Like most, I was disappointed at his loss, but I did not believe for a minute that he had a “landslide victory” stolen from him. The poll, such as they are, at no time pointed to a decisive victory for him. He was never favored to win. At best, we thought that, maybe, he could pull through with a slider. Alas, that didn’t happen, and the consequences are something that looks like the final scenes of King Lear, but rather than a short hour or so, they have dragged on for two months. He has gone off the edge. He is no longer fit to hold the office. He has no dignity, no integrity, and, at this point, very likely far less support than he had during the election in November. Of the 74 Million people who voted for him, I truly wonder how many would do so today. I know I sure wouldn’t.
I detest Biden, and have even more contempt for Harris, but both of them have far more understanding of the workings of government and the responsibilities of leadership than Trump has. They have made stupid comments, but nothing to compare to the rabble rousing that Trump has participated in for the last two months, all of which precipitated what happened yesterday. I am fully in agreement with those who want Trump removed from office NOW, not 14 days from now. His cabinet members and advisors are resigning. He is in deep decline and, given his past performance, it is uncertain what he might do. He isn’t acting like a sane individual. He needs to be gone. The sooner the better!
I never had a post with that title. It might have been the Trump Fatigue Syndrome, but he doesn’t have the power to break Ricochet. Only we can do that.
What about the video interview in which Kamala Harris says the protests are necessary and should continue? That was far more rabble rousing than anything Trump has done.
I think practically that would be impossible to do, Eugene, and frankly I doubt he can do much harm in the next few weeks anyway. January 20 will come soon enough.
Even if you believed the Dems burned down our cities, that would not have ended American democracy. What would have happened if the terrorists were never cleared from the capitol? What would have happened if the bombs were not disarmed?
Maybe not infinitely, but considerably more likable and relatable.
There is no reason to remove Trump from office with two weeks left of a lame duck presidency. It would just be vengeance and harmful to the Republic. If Trump being done refers to that, I don’t concur with that.
Nothing much. Nancy Pelosi and Schumer decides everything together with a handful of helpers, and they don’t need the big rooms in the marble office building in which to do it. Besides, the protesters can hardly trash the place any worse than it has been trashed by Congress itself.
See my comment #131
I meant two things: for me, my support was gone. And I think he will have a tough time coming back into the political realm, if he should try to.
You left out the part about the bombs.
You realize it has been bombed before right? Not condoning this activity but to say that a bomb going off in the building would have ended American democracy is a touch over dramatic. I have little doubt the responsible parties will be arrested and have the book thrown at them. That is the appropriate legal response. Extra legal actions by either side are fundamentally unhelpful at this point.
What would have happened if Nancy Pelosi failed to evacuate in time because she ran back for her silly giant show gavel?
What would have happened if Cocaine Mitch had pulled out his six-shooters, gave the Rebel Yell, and charged the crowd?
What would have happened if Dianne Feinstein had wandered off to the bathroom and got lost?
What would have happened if Ted Cruz shouted to Josh Hawley “I AM SUPERMAN! COME WITH ME, BOY WONDER, AND LET US SAVE THE DAY!”, then ripped off his suit, threw a grappling hook onto the balcony, and swung away like Tarzan?
Ok. I agree with you.
@susanquinn, I was using it as a riff on a more common refrain. I agree with your sentiment and didn’t ascribe any malice to you.
The point of my comment was that The Reticulator was minimizing the violence and evil of the terrorists.
“Nothing Much…the protestors can hardly trash the place any worse than it has been trashed by Congress itself.”
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That last one would never have happened. It’s more likely that they would try to lead the terrorists.
You just brightened my day. Thank you.
So you admit the others are possibilities too?
Handle Covid better? The one consistent thing about Hillary is that everything she has ever touched has turned to – well – let’s call it crap. Ideology aside, she’s simply grossly incompetent. I’ve always been amazed why the left was so determined to hitch its wagon to such a mediocrity.
Let’s consider it from the perspective of a generic leftist. Early on last winter, when Trump was restricting travel from China, the left reflexively denounced the policy as “xenophobic” and well into March were forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes, again for purely ideological reasons (“discrimination”). The latter policy is responsible for most of the COVID deaths so far. It’s fair to assume that Hillary would have attempted to follow the early leftist ideological response to COVID, but on a national scale. I see no reason to think the COVID outcome would have not been far worse with Hillary.
They are more plausible than the last one, but less plausible than Cruz and Hawley leading the terrorists to proclaim Trump Czar.
I can see Feinstein getting lost.
Hillary would not have played down the virus like Trump did. Richard Epstein’s musings upon the virus would also not have been circulating within the White House, so I think that would have saved tens of thousands of lives.