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To make it clear, I will vote for Trump in November, waiting until Election Day to mark our absentee ballots. I am a firm believer in having an actual day for voting, instead of the months-long smear that is now the practice.

However, this missive is not for the purpose of examining our current election practices, but to make the case for Trump as I have come to understand the matter. I did not vote for Trump in 2016, mostly because it was not clear to me what his policies might be. Sure, there was the “build the wall” issue and other matters but at the time it did not seem to make a coherent whole.

It did not help that his critics were vociferously against him, mostly assuming that he was not competent, not intelligent enough, would lose interest once in office, and on and on. Moreover, the attacks on his character made him out to be the worst person on earth. Better to elect Stalin than to let Donald Trump in the White House.

Virtually none of his critics, especially those in the Never Trump camp of the conservative faction, were right. No scandal has been manifest in his administration. Certainly none like those of previous presidents. This is not to say that things have been calm. But it is fair to say that the chaos that seems to be the normal state of affairs is largely the ongoing efforts of the critics to bolster their mostly false assessments of him. I take him to be a combination of the locker room towel snapper, always loud and frequently annoying, but still somehow doing well, and of the frenetic, mile-a-minute boss who expects everything now and his way. I have worked for men like that. He seems the type to say he needs a report on X and as soon as you say, “Yes sir!” his mind is elsewhere and if he looks up and sees you, he says, “Well, where is it?” If there has been seemingly tumultuous turnover in the cabinet, it is certainly because he has a clear idea of what he wants but has a hard time convincing those would-be princes to do what he wants.

He has accomplished much. If we do not yet have a sea to sea wall on our southern border, it is not for lack of trying. If there ever was a case for stifling a hyperactive judiciary, it is the fight over funding for a wall. It seems as if every two-bit rent-a-judge in the country feels empowered to frustrate him on this and virtually every other presidential action. And we need not rehearse the awful Mueller probe or the utterly groundless impeachment effort that began even before he took the oath of office.

There are two things that have made firm my choice this election. First, are the astonishing Arab-Israel agreements. It may not be full recognition, but it is something that has not been accomplished for more than half a century. The critics may dismiss it as low-hanging fruit but it is the first step to a real change in the Middle East. For all that, those same critics will not give credit where credit is due. For my part, if the Democrats win this election, it will either be undone completely, leading to decades more of terrorism and violence, or they will cynically claim it as their own and deny Trump, Pompeo, and Jared Kushner the recognition for a truly great accomplishment.

The second significant matter is that of his Supreme Court appointments. Amy Coney Barrett is an excellent choice simply because she will certainly apply the law rather than her personal wishes and the Senate should recognize that without regard to party affiliations. Trump and McConnell are completely within their rights to appoint and confirm her, rather than deferring to the opposition, thus allowing them the opportunity to place another partisan hack on the SCOTUS bench.

It is, however, his handling of the Kavanaugh appointment that earns my greatest respect. Again, there is no need to rehash the story save this. It is best told in the account by Mollie Hemingway and Carrie Severino, Justice on Trial. The ferocity of the opposition to Judge Kavanaugh was appalling. So intense was it that even conservative stalwarts like Senator Ben Sasse began to suggest withdrawing his nomination. Regardless of all that, President Trump was unwavering in his support of Kavanaugh and, of course, ultimately won the day. That staunch loyalty won my admiration and would be enough alone to gain my vote and it speaks volumes about the real character of Donald Trump.

In a recent column, Kevin Williamson (no fan of The Donald, for sure) mused as to what might have been were Ted Cruz been elected rather than Trump. I have news for Kevin and all the anti-Trumpers in the conservative world: It would not have been one bit different. No one who defeated Queen Hillary would have escaped the wrath of the left. To be sure, Cruz, or any of the others who could not overcome Trump, would have conducted themselves differently. The reality is that, as with the Kavanaugh debacle, the real goal was to control the office. Trump could have appointed the Pope to the Supreme Court and the response would have been no different. Nor was there any presidential candidate who would have been even slightly acceptable to the left.

For all this, and my intended vote, this election is not as significant as the pearl clutchers might think. Trump’s chances do not look good at this point. If he fails, the Democrats will pursue court-packing, statehood for DC and Puerto Rico, and all the rest of the baggage. If he wins they will be back in 2022 and 2024 with the same agenda and maybe more. They will pursue it until they succeed, or until the right finally gets its act together and realizes that more is needed than winning the next election. Rather than shedding crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.

For all of the above, I will vote for Trump on November 3. I think you should, too.

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  1. Nohaaj Coolidge

    where is the UBER-LOVE button when you need it? from your lips to millions of ears. 

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    • October 22, 2020, at 12:04 AM PDT
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  2. Arahant Member

    GeezerBob: Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.

    Amen to this.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 2:00 AM PDT
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  3. David Foster Member
    David FosterJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 5:18 AM PDT
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  4. EHerring Coolidge

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Americans, states that is, should then ask themselves if it would be better to split the country into two parts and preserve the constitution, liberty, and America in their part. Each part could pursue its own vision. I prefer a return to limited federal government, as founders envisioned. It is the only 50 state model that will survive.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 6:57 AM PDT
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  5. Kozak Member
    KozakJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

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    • October 22, 2020, at 8:13 AM PDT
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  6. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    EHerring (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Americans, states that is, should then ask themselves if it would be better to split the country into two parts and preserve the constitution, liberty, and America in their part. Each part could pursue its own vision. I prefer a return to limited federal government, as founders envisioned. It is the only so state model that will survive.

    I see this a credible outcome should the unthinkable happen (all three branches and their attempts to subvert the Constitution succeeding). Normally, when a party is swept into power, the opposition regroups and takes back the House and/or Senate in the midterms. That is the election I’ll be watching if Trump loses, which I don’t believe he will. Because if there is no path to power, then secession is maybe the only option. But I hope it doesn’t come to that, even if the unthinkable happens.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 8:30 AM PDT
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  7. EHerring Coolidge

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Americans, states that is, should then ask themselves if it would be better to split the country into two parts and preserve the constitution, liberty, and America in their part. Each part could pursue its own vision. I prefer a return to limited federal government, as founders envisioned. It is the only so state model that will survive.

    I see this a credible outcome should the unthinkable happen (all three branches and their attempts to subvert the Constitution succeeding). Normally, when a party is swept into power, the opposition regroups and takes back the House and/or Senate in the midterms. That is the election I’ll be watching if Trump loses, which I don’t believe he will. Because if there is no path to power, then secession is maybe the only option. But I hope it doesn’t come to that, even if the unthinkable happens.

    Agree. I prefer my flag with 50 stars but would settle for fewer stars to keep the flag.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 8:57 AM PDT
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  8. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. StephensJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

    Yes

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    • October 22, 2020, at 12:13 PM PDT
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  9. Valiuth Member
    ValiuthJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

    God willing they can, and thereby save our nation from the incompetence and maliciousness of the Trumplican party. Go Deep State!

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Of course we will be rounding up all the undesirables. I have been keeping lists, why do you think I am here? When Biden wins I propose hemlock for Trump supporter. Surely you will not want to live in the hell scape that will be the Biden administration. Take the easy way out, you overly melodramatic sissies. 

    By the way if somehow in 2 years after the Biden win in November you haven’t been rounded up in concentration camps, and Republicans gain seats in the mid term will you admit you were just posturing now? How deep does the Progressive Derangement Syndrome go? I just want to know? 

     

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    • October 22, 2020, at 12:16 PM PDT
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  10. Valiuth Member
    ValiuthJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):
    Normally, when a party is swept into power, the opposition regroups and takes back the House and/or Senate in the midterms. That is the election I’ll be watching if Trump loses, which I don’t believe he will. Because if there is no path to power, then secession is maybe the only option. But I hope it doesn’t come to that, even if the unthinkable happens.

    It’s okay I think we know how to deal with secessionist traitors, so it won’t come to that. What GOPer is willing to hang? None of them have that level of conviction and for what? Lower marginal tax rates? I mean owning human beings that is a cause worth fighting for, but a 33% tax rate vs. a 38%? 

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    • October 22, 2020, at 12:20 PM PDT
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  11. Django Member

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

    Out here in the cesspool that is CA the local news station was reporting on GOP attempts at “ballot harvesting”. You’d think the GOP was the only party doing that. At least they had the integrity to interview Harmeet Dhillon on the subject. She summed it up pretty well when she said that ballot harvesting should be illegal, but that it currently isn’t, and that given that the Demo-rats do it, the GOP would be guilty of electoral malpractice if they didn’t match their opponent’s efforts.

    My prayer is that for every 1000 fraudulent votes the Demo-rats generate, the GOP can generate 1100 to counteract. The additional 100 is to account for the margin of error.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 12:26 PM PDT
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  12. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Arahant (View Comment):

    GeezerBob: Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.

    Amen to this.

    Except much of the conservative punditry is expressly paid to expressly avoid talking about the evils of the Chinese Communist Party’s Democratic agenda.

    Instead, the pundits are willing to expand on how Trump is incompetent, has been supported by the Russians, and has gleefully allowed for 220,000 Americans to die from COVID, when he could have personally stopped those deaths by not indulging in his golf games once COVID hit.

    Although her video is a bit wobbly in its presentation methods, Millie the Millennials video on youtube exposes the three or four major pieces of recent legislation that can be invoked any time anyone in power feels that foreign operatives are taking over our nation.

    These laws are laws that most of us have never heard of. They were readily passed by Congress critters in both parties, as the way the legislation was written, the laws sounded like they would only involve the suppression of foreigners intent on overthrowing our nation. No Republican and not even Trump himself envisioned prior to summer of 2016 that a Presidential candidate and then the President himself could and would ever be portrayed as being the right hand man of Putin operating in America.

    You can watch the “ShadowGate” video on Millennial Millie’s website. You will need to scroll down to see the video:

    https://www.millennialmillie.com/

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    • October 22, 2020, at 12:30 PM PDT
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  13. carcat74 Member

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Americans, states that is, should then ask themselves if it would be better to split the country into two parts and preserve the constitution, liberty, and America in their part. Each part could pursue its own vision. I prefer a return to limited federal government, as founders envisioned. It is the only so state model that will survive.

    I see this a credible outcome should the unthinkable happen (all three branches and their attempts to subvert the Constitution succeeding). Normally, when a party is swept into power, the opposition regroups and takes back the House and/or Senate in the midterms. That is the election I’ll be watching if Trump loses, which I don’t believe he will. Because if there is no path to power, then secession is maybe the only option. But I hope it doesn’t come to that, even if the unthinkable happens.

    There will be a bloody war fought over how the country’s debt should be divided, who get which state (or part of a state), which would make some new states islands—not good for neighboring states, depending on the ‘bent’ of the new state. Our enemies would pounce with glee while we’re still figuring all this out…

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    • October 22, 2020, at 12:34 PM PDT
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  14. carcat74 Member

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

    God willing they can, and thereby save our nation from the incompetence and maliciousness of the Trumplican party. Go Deep State!

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Of course we will be rounding up all the undesirables. I have been keeping lists, why do you think I am here? When Biden wins I propose hemlock for Trump supporter. Surely you will not want to live in the hell scape that will be the Biden administration. Take the easy way out, you overly melodramatic sissies.

    By the way if somehow in 2 years after the Biden win in November you haven’t been rounded up in concentration camps, and Republicans gain seats in the mid term will you admit you were just posturing now? How deep does the Progressive Derangement Syndrome go? I just want to know?

     

    So you prefer Harridan Harris? No accounting for taste, I guess….

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    • October 22, 2020, at 1:16 PM PDT
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  15. GrannyDude Member

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

    God willing they can, and thereby save our nation from the incompetence and maliciousness of the Trumplican party. Go Deep State!

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Of course we will be rounding up all the undesirables. I have been keeping lists, why do you think I am here? When Biden wins I propose hemlock for Trump supporter. Surely you will not want to live in the hell scape that will be the Biden administration. Take the easy way out, you overly melodramatic sissies.

    By the way if somehow in 2 years after the Biden win in November you haven’t been rounded up in concentration camps, and Republicans gain seats in the mid term will you admit you were just posturing now? How deep does the Progressive Derangement Syndrome go? I just want to know?

     

    Valiuth, are you not just a smidge unnerved by everything that is being confirmed about Biden’s corruption thanks to his son’s sloppy attitude toward the handling of smoking-gun evidence? I’m willing to accept that your dislike of Trump is strong, but the alternative looks pretty awful. No? 

     

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    • October 22, 2020, at 1:47 PM PDT
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  16. Flicker Coolidge

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

    Perfectly put.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 3:13 PM PDT
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  17. Flicker Coolidge

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Americans, states that is, should then ask themselves if it would be better to split the country into two parts and preserve the constitution, liberty, and America in their part. Each part could pursue its own vision. I prefer a return to limited federal government, as founders envisioned. It is the only so state model that will survive.

    I see this a credible outcome should the unthinkable happen (all three branches and their attempts to subvert the Constitution succeeding). Normally, when a party is swept into power, the opposition regroups and takes back the House and/or Senate in the midterms. That is the election I’ll be watching if Trump loses, which I don’t believe he will. Because if there is no path to power, then secession is maybe the only option. But I hope it doesn’t come to that, even if the unthinkable happens.

    What does secession look like to you? How do you divide up the country Conservative from Progressive, and still maintain two separate countries with port facilities and connecting roadways that don’t go through the other country?

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    • October 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM PDT
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  18. Flicker Coolidge

    [repeat]

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  19. Django Member

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Here’s my gestalt on Trump in 2020.

    None of the people who voted for him in 2016 are not going to vote for him this time around.

    Lots of people who didn’t vote for him last are going to vote for him this time as he’s delivered as much as he could on his promises.

    Locally, I don’t see as much enthusiasm for Biden as there was for Hillary in 2016. Fraction of the yard signs bumper stickers etc.

    I think this election comes down to, can the Democrats manufacture enough fraud to steal the election….

    God willing they can, and thereby save our nation from the incompetence and maliciousness of the Trumplican party. Go Deep State!

    David Foster (View Comment):

    “Rather than shed crocodile tears should Trump lose, the conservative punditry should be explaining the consequences of the Democrat agenda and persuading the voters that these are bad ideas and more than just election gimmickry.”

    Should Trump lose…and especially if the Dems hold the House and take the Senate…I’m not sure there are going to be any more chances for meaningful wins over the ‘progressive’ agenda at any point in our lifetimes. The Progs have clearly shown their willingness and desire to shut down opposing points of view, and have been pretty successful at doing so even *without* control of the levers of government. If they *do* control these levers, then opposition of any kind is going to be extremely difficult. Lots of other people, at all levels, would be given the Kavanaugh treatment, and there would be no President standing in the way.

    Of course we will be rounding up all the undesirables. I have been keeping lists, why do you think I am here? When Biden wins I propose hemlock for Trump supporter. Surely you will not want to live in the hell scape that will be the Biden administration. Take the easy way out, you overly melodramatic sissies.

    By the way if somehow in 2 years after the Biden win in November you haven’t been rounded up in concentration camps, and Republicans gain seats in the mid term will you admit you were just posturing now? How deep does the Progressive Derangement Syndrome go? I just want to know?

     

    I’ve never said anything about concentration camps, so I suppose you weren’t addressing me and I don’t need to respond. My concerns are more limited and realistic, I believe. How will you react if the SCOTUS is expanded by four or five, if the 2nd Amendment is ruled to not be an individual right, if Puerto Rico and DC become states and guarantee a Democrat majority in the Senate in perpetuity, or any number of other announced Demo-rat objectives become reality?

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    • October 22, 2020, at 3:25 PM PDT
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  20. Gary Robbins Reagan

    When I became a Republican during Reagan’s Administration, I was drawn by the Republican Party’s emphasis on personal character, Rule of Law, Adherence to the Constitution, a cogent national defense policy and free trade. I continue to belong to the Party of Reagan. I do not recognize any of those qualities in the party of Trump.

    I appreciate Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments. But with the confirmation of ACB, Trump will have no promise of future Supreme Court Appointments to fill. Stephen Breyer is a hale 82 year old. Clarence Thomas is 72, and Samuel Alito is 70. By filing the RBG vacancy, there is nothing further that Trump has to offer to conservatives on the Supreme Court.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 3:55 PM PDT
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  21. Django Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    When I became a Republican during Reagan’s Administration, I was drawn by the Republican Party’s emphasis on personal character, Rule of Law, Adherence to the Constitution, a cogent national defense policy and free trade. I continue to belong to the Party of Reagan. I do not recognize any of those qualities in the party of Trump.

    I appreciate Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments. But with the confirmation of ACB, Trump will have no promise of future Supreme Court Appointments to fill. Stephen Breyer is a hale 82 year old. Clarence Thomas is 72, and Samuel Alito is 70. By filing the RBG vacancy, there is nothing further that Trump has to offer to conservatives on the Supreme Court.

    Trump followed through and kept his word to the voters regarding SCOTUS appointments. That means something to me. 

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    • October 22, 2020, at 4:00 PM PDT
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  22. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. StephensJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    When I became a Republican during Reagan’s Administration, I was drawn by the Republican Party’s emphasis on personal character, Rule of Law, Adherence to the Constitution, a cogent national defense policy and free trade. I continue to belong to the Party of Reagan. I do not recognize any of those qualities in the party of Trump.

    I appreciate Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments. But with the confirmation of ACB, Trump will have no promise of future Supreme Court Appointments to fill. Stephen Breyer is a hale 82 year old. Clarence Thomas is 72, and Samuel Alito is 70. By filing the RBG vacancy, there is nothing further that Trump has to offer to conservatives on the Supreme Court.

    Sure he does, winning another election. 

    Oh wait, you are total and utter tool, voting for a man who we now know clearly sold us out to China for personal gain.

    Reagan would be so proud of you, Gary.

     

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    • October 22, 2020, at 4:23 PM PDT
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  23. GrannyDude Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    When I became a Republican during Reagan’s Administration, I was drawn by the Republican Party’s emphasis on personal character, Rule of Law, Adherence to the Constitution, a cogent national defense policy and free trade. I continue to belong to the Party of Reagan. I do not recognize any of those qualities in the party of Trump.

    I appreciate Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments. But with the confirmation of ACB, Trump will have no promise of future Supreme Court Appointments to fill. Stephen Breyer is a hale 82 year old. Clarence Thomas is 72, and Samuel Alito is 70. By filing the RBG vacancy, there is nothing further that Trump has to offer to conservatives on the Supreme Court.

    In other words, in spite of the dishonorable, hysterical and mendacious efforts of the Democrats and Never Trumpers to force him out, Trump hung in there, and was able to keep the promises he made to Republicans like you. Having squeezed what lemonade you can out of your life’s bitterest lemon, you’re going to vote for…oh wait! You already did vote for him! You’ve voted for The Big Guy who, evidence strongly suggests, has been in the employ of (and perhaps under the thumb of) distinctly sketchy foreign corporations, using his pathetic, drug-addled, apparently sexually deviant son as a bagman.

     

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    • October 22, 2020, at 5:24 PM PDT
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  24. Django Member

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    When I became a Republican during Reagan’s Administration, I was drawn by the Republican Party’s emphasis on personal character, Rule of Law, Adherence to the Constitution, a cogent national defense policy and free trade. I continue to belong to the Party of Reagan. I do not recognize any of those qualities in the party of Trump.

    I appreciate Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments. But with the confirmation of ACB, Trump will have no promise of future Supreme Court Appointments to fill. Stephen Breyer is a hale 82 year old. Clarence Thomas is 72, and Samuel Alito is 70. By filing the RBG vacancy, there is nothing further that Trump has to offer to conservatives on the Supreme Court.

    In other words, in spite of the dishonorable, hysterical and mendacious efforts of the Democrats and Never Trumpers to force him out, Trump hung in there, and was able to keep the promises he made to Republicans like you. Having squeezed what lemonade you can out of your life’s bitterest lemon, you’re going to vote for…oh wait! You already did vote for him! You’ve voted for The Big Guy who, evidence strongly suggests, has been in the employ of (and perhaps under the thumb of) distinctly sketchy foreign corporations, using his pathetic, drug-addled, apparently sexually deviant son as a bagman.

     

    Actually, he voted for Kamala, whether he knows it or not. Dirty Nancy’s shenanigans about the 25th weren’t directed toward The Orange One. She wants a Frisco lib as Prez. Two disgusting women with an unreal sense of entitlement. 

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    • October 22, 2020, at 5:36 PM PDT
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  25. Suspira Member

    GeezerBob: In a recent column, Kevin Williamson (no fan of The Donald, for sure) mused as to what might have been were Ted Cruz been elected rather than Trump. I have news for Kevin and all the anti-Trumpers in the conservative world: It would not have been one bit different.

    I’m with Kevin. It would have been completely different had Cruz or any of the other 2016 candidates. Would the lunatic left have behaved much the same? Sure. I give you that. But I would have had a president I could wholeheartedly support and even been proud of. 

    And I can’t believe there would be no difference in performance between an educated, intelligent adult like Cruz (or Rubio or Walker or Paul or…) and a narcissistic superannuated toddler. 

    Yes, I will vote for Trump because the alternative is not just unacceptable, but appalling. And the Trump administration, in fact, has done some creditable things. More than few, which is much more than I would have expected when he was elected.

    But if Trump loses to a dim-witted D.C. lifer and his scary running mate, it will be his own fault. He just can’t get out of his own way. The man is practically a one-man Greek tragedy.

     

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    • October 22, 2020, at 5:48 PM PDT
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  26. EHerring Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    emphasis on personal character, Rule of Law, Adherence to the Constitution, a cogent national defense policy and free trade. I continue to belong to the Party of Reagan. I do not recognize any of those qualities in the party of Trump.

    You are a man without a party since you will not find that on the Democrat ticket.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 5:48 PM PDT
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  27. Django Member

    Suspira (View Comment):

    GeezerBob: In a recent column, Kevin Williamson (no fan of The Donald, for sure) mused as to what might have been were Ted Cruz been elected rather than Trump. I have news for Kevin and all the anti-Trumpers in the conservative world: It would not have been one bit different.

    I’m with Kevin. It would have been completely different had Cruz or any of the other 2016 candidates. Would the lunatic left have behaved much the same? Sure. I give you that. But I would have had a president I could wholeheartedly support and even been proud of.

    And I can’t believe there would be no difference in performance between an educated, intelligent adult like Cruz (or Rubio or Walker or Paul or…) and a narcissistic superannuated toddler.

    Yes, I will vote for Trump because the alternative is not just unacceptable, but appalling. And the Trump administration, in fact, has done some creditable things. More than few, which is much more than I would have expected when he was elected.

    But if Trump loses to a dim-witted D.C. lifer and his scary running mate, it will be his own fault. He just can’t get out of his own way. The man is practically a one-man Greek tragedy.

     

    We’ll never know for certain, but I believe that any one of the others would have faded like a cheap shirt in Clorox if he had been subjected to the abuse Trump has suffered. Well, let’s be honest: Three or four are swamp creatures themselves and would not have been subjected to the abuse Trump has suffered. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss in their cases. 

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    • October 22, 2020, at 5:52 PM PDT
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  28. GrannyDude Member

    Suspira (View Comment):

    GeezerBob: In a recent column, Kevin Williamson (no fan of The Donald, for sure) mused as to what might have been were Ted Cruz been elected rather than Trump. I have news for Kevin and all the anti-Trumpers in the conservative world: It would not have been one bit different.

    I’m with Kevin. It would have been completely different had Cruz or any of the other 2016 candidates. Would the lunatic left have behaved much the same? Sure. I give you that. But I would have had a president I could wholeheartedly support and even been proud of.

    And I can’t believe there would be no difference in performance between an educated, intelligent adult like Cruz (or Rubio or Walker or Paul or…) and a narcissistic superannuated toddler.

    Yes, I will vote for Trump because the alternative is not just unacceptable, but appalling. And the Trump administration, in fact, has done some creditable things. More than few, which is much more than I would have expected when he was elected.

    But if Trump loses to a dim-witted D.C. lifer and his scary running mate, it will be his own fault. He just can’t get out of his own way. The man is practically a one-man Greek tragedy.

     

    Fair enough.

    I think we have an open and perhaps unanswerable question—are Trump’s manifold flaws mostly getting in his/our way or are they the flip sides of the character traits that have allowed him to bear up under unbelievable pressure? How much did his having done something other than politics matter, whether in terms of attracting new voters, in terms of the ferocity of the Democrat and Never Trump reaction to him, or in terms of his willingness and ability to do what he believed to be the right thing regardless of whether it was the “done thing” in DC circles? 

    I have a feeling historians are going to be having a lot of fun with the Trump phenomenon for a long time to come.

     

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    • October 22, 2020, at 8:07 PM PDT
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  29. Freeven Member
    FreevenJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I appreciate Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments. But with the confirmation of ACB, Trump will have no promise of future Supreme Court Appointments to fill. Stephen Breyer is a hale 82 year old. Clarence Thomas is 72, and Samuel Alito is 70. By filing the RBG vacancy, there is nothing further that Trump has to offer to conservatives on the Supreme Court.

    There are still vacancies in the lower courts to be filled. This is the talent pool from which future SCOTUS nominations will be drawn. Trump has been nominating reliable originalists to these courts. Continuing to do so would be a great service to the Court and the country.

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    • October 22, 2020, at 8:14 PM PDT
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  30. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. StephensJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I appreciate Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments. But with the confirmation of ACB, Trump will have no promise of future Supreme Court Appointments to fill. Stephen Breyer is a hale 82 year old. Clarence Thomas is 72, and Samuel Alito is 70. By filing the RBG vacancy, there is nothing further that Trump has to offer to conservatives on the Supreme Court.

    There are still vacancies in the lower courts to be filled. This is the talent pool from which future SCOTUS nominations will be drawn. Trump has been nominating reliable originalists to these courts. Continuing to do so would be a great service to the Court and the country.

    Oh he does not care. He is eager for Biden to win and pack those courts

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    • October 23, 2020, at 2:53 AM PDT
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