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  1. Scott Wilmot Member
    Scott Wilmot
    @ScottWilmot

    Mollie wins again.

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  2. Albert Arthur Coolidge
    Albert Arthur
    @AlbertArthur

    @MollieHemingway has been hitting it out of the mark the past few months. I’m so glad she’s been more and more visible on cable news.

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  3. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph Stanko
    @JosephStanko

    Charles Blow:

    “What our business is, is truth.  Without that, without credibility, we don’t have anything to sell.  There is no business, there is no journalism enterprise, without truth.”

    Couldn’t agree more, Mr. Blow.  Perhaps you should ask yourself why the newspaper business is in such steep decline these days, and stop blaming it all on the Internet…

     

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  4. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Mollie was great!

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  5. Derryck Green Member
    Derryck Green
    @DerryckGreen

    Every time I hear Charles Blow speak, or torture myself by reading one of his columns, I’m reminded of how beneficial affirmative action has been for black leftists in the chattering and so-called intellectual classes.

    He really does make me regret swallowing the red pill. Had I taken the blue pill, I could’ve milked white guilt and affirmative action for all its socio-economic worth. I would never be forced to leave the leftist ideological/emotional ghetto, and no matter how foolish I sounded- audibly or in print, I would’ve been celebrated by white lefties eager to be seen and heard complimenting an “African American.” Blow is an extraordinarily lucky man.

    Hemingway makes Blow look even more like an undeserving charity case.

    That aside, I hope we see more of Hemingway on television. She’s good.

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  6. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    While my first reaction was that not even Ms. Mollie could make me listen to Blow, I was able to hit the mute/F1 button on my laptop with sufficient dexterity to listen to her and not him.  This is why we evolved with index fingers.

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  7. harrisventures Inactive
    harrisventures
    @harrisventures

    Mollie’s great. Blow’s insufferable.

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  8. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    I agree with everyone else. Mollie was fantastic.

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  9. Larry Koler Inactive
    Larry Koler
    @LarryKoler

    I like that we are all calling liars now. Trump uses the term fake news but it’s all the same. The media has to double down to protect their liar — they simply have no other place to go because they have too many lies already on tape that when it comes to a comparison on lying they lose.

    The reason it’s important that we call liars is that this is a necessary corrective and it does get out to the population that the media is being held to a standard of any sort and that they need to question them as a source.

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  10. Pugshot Inactive
    Pugshot
    @Pugshot

    I don’t think this clip shows Mollie “winning” the debate. It ends with Blow bloviating – getting in the last word. To those in the anti-Trump camp, it’s easy to buy into his narrative: these are the words Trump used; these claims – considered by themselves – are not true; therefore Trump lied. The problem I see is not so much with the MSM taking Trump to task for every inaccurate thing he tweets, it’s that they don’t bother to apply the same standards to the Left. When an Obama, or a Clinton, or a Reid, or a Schumer, or a Pelosi make a clearly inaccurate comment, the MSM either ignore the inaccuracy, downplay it, excuse it, or interpret it in a favorable manner.

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  11. Paul J. Croeber Inactive
    Paul J. Croeber
    @PaulJCroeber

    Blow’s employer isn’t in the truth business, nor is it a personal aspiration in his professional capacity.  He’d dissemble a left wing lie or exaggeration in a New York (times) minute if it furthered his cause.

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  12. Freeven Member
    Freeven
    @Freeven

    Mollie makes great points about media hysteria and the double standards so blatantly on display. But Blow makes a valid point about Trump’s record of inaccurate, irresponsible, and easily disproved statements. Their points are not mutually exclusive, and it’s disheartening to see so many dismiss Blow out of hand without acknowledging that his is a fair criticism.

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  13. Douglas Inactive
    Douglas
    @Douglas

    Derryck Green (View Comment):
    Every time I hear Charles Blow speak, or torture myself by reading one of his columns, I’m reminded of how beneficial affirmative action has been for black leftists in the chattering and so-called intellectual classes.

    No affirmative action about it. There are very few I hold in lower esteem than Blowhard. His color doesn’t have a damn thing to do with it. He’d be a snotty ass in any hue.

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  14. Albert Arthur Coolidge
    Albert Arthur
    @AlbertArthur

    @markhemingway looking good these days with a beard, too!

    https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/838714280077713408/

    Oh, and good political reporting and that stuff.

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  15. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Derryck Green (View Comment):
    Every time I hear Charles Blow speak, or torture myself by reading one of his columns, I’m reminded of how beneficial affirmative action has been for black leftists in the chattering and so-called intellectual classes.

    He really does make me regret swallowing the red pill. Had I taken the blue pill, I could’ve milked white guilt and affirmative action for all its socio-economic worth. I would never be forced to leave the leftist ideological/emotional ghetto, and no matter how foolish I sounded- audibly or in print, I would’ve been celebrated by white lefties eager to be seen and heard complimenting an “African American.” Blow is an extraordinarily lucky man.

    Hemingway makes Blow look even more like an undeserving charity case.

    That aside, I hope we see more of Hemingway on television. She’s good.

    He is depressing, isn’t he? A shallow thinker and a crummy writer. (An opinion which, according to a friend of mine, makes me racist). There are good writers among lefties-of-color, but the world-view does encourage a kind of self-limiting. I think Ta-Nehisi Coates can write, but he swallowed a whole handful of blue pills early on, and makes a good living giving white lefties a chance to compliment him to their own bleeding hearts’ content.

    There are a lot of crappy white writers/thinkers too. Just sayin’.

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  16. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Freeven (View Comment):
    Mollie makes great points about media hysteria and the double standards so blatantly on display. But Blow makes a valid point about Trump’s record of inaccurate, irresponsible, and easily disproved statements. Their points are not mutually exclusive, and it’s disheartening to see so many dismiss Blow out of hand without acknowledging that his is a fair criticism.

    Yes, but it is so utterly predictable, @Freeven. It is a (relatively) fair criticism, or would be if Blow (or any of the lefty-media types) had a soupçon of self-awareness, a tiny hint of understanding as to why Americans no longer trust people like him.

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  17. Douglas Inactive
    Douglas
    @Douglas

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    (An opinion which, according to a friend of mine, makes me racist).

    Lot of that going around, I notice.

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  18. Jerome Danner Inactive
    Jerome Danner
    @JeromeDanner

    Pugshot (View Comment):
    I don’t think this clip shows Mollie “winning” the debate. It ends with Blow bloviating – getting in the last word. To those in the anti-Trump camp, it’s easy to buy into his narrative: these are the words Trump used; these claims – considered by themselves – are not true; therefore Trump lied. The problem I see is not so much with the MSM taking Trump to task for every inaccurate thing he tweets, it’s that they don’t bother to apply the same standards to the Left. When an Obama, or a Clinton, or a Reid, or a Schumer, or a Pelosi make a clearly inaccurate comment, the MSM either ignore the inaccuracy, downplay it, excuse it, or interpret it in a favorable manner.

    I agree with the bit that the clip doesn’t really show Mrs. Hemingway “winning” a debate.  It just seems to me that she made an excellent point that the hysteria needs to stop and that they – MSM – should report what actually happened.  The host of the show was asking her if she thought a certain way about Sessions, which shows he actually was proving her point.  Many journalists will write articles like their opinion pieces when they should just be stating facts.  So, they know that they don’t like the person and the person is doing something that “seems” to be against what they believe, so they write an article with what happen “as well as” added interpretation.  Sad!

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  19. Freeven Member
    Freeven
    @Freeven

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):
    Mollie makes great points about media hysteria and the double standards so blatantly on display. But Blow makes a valid point about Trump’s record of inaccurate, irresponsible, and easily disproved statements. Their points are not mutually exclusive, and it’s disheartening to see so many dismiss Blow out of hand without acknowledging that his is a fair criticism.

    Yes, but it is so utterly predictable, @Freeven. It is a (relatively) fair criticism, or would be if Blow (or any of the lefty-media types) had a soupçon of self-awareness, a tiny hint of understanding as to why Americans no longer trust people like him.

    I get that. But in the spirit of playing the ball and not the man, I think we have to be honest enough to acknowledge that he makes a fair point about Trump’s history of irresponsible statements. Truth is where you find it.

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  20. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):
    Mollie makes great points about media hysteria and the double standards so blatantly on display. But Blow makes a valid point about Trump’s record of inaccurate, irresponsible, and easily disproved statements. Their points are not mutually exclusive, and it’s disheartening to see so many dismiss Blow out of hand without acknowledging that his is a fair criticism.

    Yes, but it is so utterly predictable, @Freeven. It is a (relatively) fair criticism, or would be if Blow (or any of the lefty-media types) had a soupçon of self-awareness, a tiny hint of understanding as to why Americans no longer trust people like him.

    I get that. But in the spirit of playing the ball and not the man, I think we have to be honest enough to acknowledge that he makes a fair point about Trump’s history of irresponsible statements. Truth is where you find it.

    They aren’t looking very hard. I think this is true of just about everyone, though, not just poor old Blow. Yes, it’s a fair point as far as it goes, but they are so eager to read their own narrative into Trump’s behavior that they going to miss—again, again—the Big Story. Whatever it turns out to be. In this, Mollie Hemingway is right; calm down and pay attention to what is actually happening. Not, sadly, a progressive strong suit.

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