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How Republicans Will Elect Biden 2.0 in 2024
“Biden 2.0” is a stand-in for some Democrat figurehead of the Party of Death and Destruction (D). It could be Biden (D). It could be Harris (D). Maybe gruesome Newsome (D). Doesn’t matter, I predict we’ll have one of them, and it will be because “a majority [or, at least, a plurality] of Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party says we can’t have him.”
This is a similar dynamic to the Republican’s Taft-Roosevelt split that produced probably the most destructive presidency of the 20th century — Woodrow Wilson (D) — followed closely by FDR (D) and LBJ (D) (notice a pattern?).
Dan Gelernter spelled it out masterfully earlier in the month in Trump Was a Mistake, and now speaks for me in The Coming Split.
But, despite the obvious differences, we’re heading for a 1912-repeat, in which the Republican Party ignores its own voters. The Republican machine has no intention of letting us choose Trump again: He is not a uniparty team player. They’d rather lose an election to the Democrats, their brothers in crime, than win with Trump.
I especially appreciate his points here [emphasis mine]:
I’m sure I’ll be accused of being a shill for the Democrats here, and as far as I’m concerned that’s as credible as being accused of shilling for Russia these days. I’m not suggesting you have to do what I do, either. But I have no intention of supporting a Republican Party that manifestly contravenes the desires of its voters. The RNC can pretend Trump isn’t loved by the base anymore, that he doesn’t have packed rallies everywhere he goes. But I’m not buying it: Talk to Republican voters anywhere outside the Beltway, and it is obvious that he is admired and even loved by those who consider themselves “ordinary” Americans.
Mitch McConnell put cement boots on the Republican party and pushed it into the Potomac with this line: “providing assistance for Ukrainians to defeat the Russians is the number one priority for the United States right now, according to most Republicans.”
In response, I’ll quote a different Mc: “Nuts!” — General McAuliffe
Trump may be our General Patton and the Third Army of his voters the only force that can save America from Biden 2.0.
MAGA!
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I don’t think it was just the Dems playing against Lake in 2022. It smells like a Uniparty operation.
To restore the republic, ballot harvesting and vote by mail must go.
Not a straw man at all. I heard Sununu say it in an interview, but AFAIK he wasn’t running for president at that moment. I also don’t know that he will repeat it at every opportunity. Hogan has said it multiple times, but he’s a nonentity to most people. Still, I think that’s where — I almost said “we are” — the party is. Some NTs won’t vote for anyone who doesn’t denounce Trump and I won’t vote for anyone who does. I’d be willing to accept someone who thanked Trump for what he did, symbolically gave him his Gold Watch, and suggested that Trump’s future role is to be a respected Tribal Elder. A lot of NTs would be offended, but [redacted] ’em.
I don’t understand why voting by mail, at least as it was done in Santa Clara County, is automatically a problem. Yeah, I’ve read Jay Valentine’s explanation of how it can be hacked, but that seemed like a flawed setup from the start.
That is a good analysis Gary. I don’t see Trump winning the primary either, although that’s not as clear as Trump not winning the general. I’m afraid that (IMHO) is pretty clear. Yes, a governor will be best, but I think Tim Scott from South Carolina as a Senator might actually unify the party as well and bring independents along. He’s the only one not a Gov that I can see pulling it off but not sure of his political chops.
Lake shot herself in the foot by telling McCain voters to “get out”. Any politician stupid enough to tell voters not to vote for them isn’t going to win. Lake has only herself to blame.
Ron DeSantis. And if the AlwaysTrumpers will not settle for a candidate that is acceptable to most of the Party, then we lose.
That’s reasonable. And I think that’s what we’ll likely get.
Older is wiser. I will take Trump’s wisdom over professional politicians who have spent a long time in government.
Name someone besides DeSantis, who might turn out to bomb at the national level like Walker did, or be undone by suspicious connections and a lack of understanding of or engagement with the base, like “you have no heart” Perry-both of whom were promising options on paper at some point.
Most potential alternatives have already disqualified themselves, in the eyes of a large proportion of conservatives-and as for the squishes, they couldn’t even stand to unite behind Cruz at the 11th hour in 2016 in order to stop Trump, I don’t see them uniting behind any other actual conservative this time around.
Fortunately for us and the world they didn’t do that – although it’s possible Trump would have been the nominee anyway – because I expect any of the “moderates” would have lost to Hillary.
I’ll name four: Youngkin, Abbott, Kemp, Ducey
Forget Kemp.
OK, I don’t know him that well, but he’s a popular governor of a good size state. I also don’t know Ducey well. But Youngkin was brilliant, and I have always loved Abbott, and the best is Ron DeSantis.
Let them throw their hats in the ring and see how far they get. Trump broke the mold, but I find it amusing that as soon as someone like Youngkin gets elected to be a governor he is automatically presidential material. That’s hilarious to me and an indication that the GOP is not serious. When it looked, in the polls, that Lake would be elected there were people already thinking she’d be VP material. Again, ridiculous.
Nominate Kemp and I will write in Trump.
Kemp won the general because he wasn’t Stacy Abrams, and he won the primary because Perdue was no better. He has won accolades from left-wing journalists for governing as a relative centrist in stark contrast to his original persona, and failed to substantially increase his vote support from the last general election. Sununu’s limitations have already been addressed by others, suffice to say he hates and is hated by conservatives. DeSantis, on the other hand, has governed as a firebrand conservative while substantially increasing his vote totals.
If you are going to cast an illegal ballot, do you want to do so in person with an ID requirement and volunteers from the local neighborhood watching or from Fuji in bundles of a thousand?
When I registered to vote by mail, I was told that the signature they had on file at the DMV should match the signature on the ballot or the ballot would be rejected. When the ballot was mailed, I received an e-mail telling me that if it wasn’t received in seven days to contact them. When the ballot was delivered, I received an e-mail. When I dropped it in the mailbox and it was picked up by the mail carrier, I received an e-mail. When it was delivered to the registrar, I received an e-mail. Two days later, I was notified that the ballot was verified and counted. This was because I registered with ballottrax(sp?). I have no concerns about my vote. This might be all that California can do right.
However, you still have no proof that your ballot actually was counted – an email doesn’t make it so – or that it was counted CORRECTLY.
Kemp is not popular, and would be seen as a direct thumb in the eye to Trump supporters in any event. I don’t know much about Ducey, but he apparently didn’t think he could even win the Arizona primary. I was thinking about Abbot when I described Perry’s issues; suffice to say he’s good at public relations, but is as swampy and Establishment as they come, and could be expected to be like Cornyn on the national stage (though probably somewhat better on immigration issues, now that he’s committed his political capital on it). Youngkin is outstanding for a blue-state governor and deserves respect for actually implementing some of the conservative things he ran on, but there is a reason he was (barely) acceptable to voters within a deep-blue state. He would be a good VP choice, though.
Thus far, DeSantis is the only nationally recognized option that can’t be expected to alienate sizable numbers of conservatives right off the bat.
Edit: clarification on Abbot/Cornyn comparison, for fairness and accuracy.
I agree it turned out for the best, but my point is that the squishes couldn’t even stand to fully support a full-spectrum conservative* in order to stop Trump.
*Which Cruz is, despite some notable missteps.
“Elderly” is the appropriate word here, not “older”. The presidency is a demanding position, and not one that eighty-somethings can handle well. Quite apart from Biden’s native mediocrity, his age is a serious problem and everyone can see it. Why in the world would anyone want a repeat of this?!
Youngkin is mentioned because he managed to build a wide base of voters – because, you know, that’s how you win – and did so by focusing on issues that mattered to people across the board, such as education. That was an effective approach and apparently he has governed well. Why wouldn’t he be spoken of as presidential material, especially in a year in which wins were not as common as they should have been? I would think that winning an election is a big plus for a presidential resume. Youngkin, DeSantis, and some others have done that.
Youngkin won an election. So did Biden, and Biden won on a much bigger stage. Is Biden presidential material?
Winning is a big plus to have on one’s resume, as I wrote. I didn’t state that it was the only consideration. But in answer to your question, Biden’s age alone renders him unfit for the job, as is obvious. This isn’t a job for the elderly.
I suppose so, if you define conservative as meaning die-hard Trump supporter. A lot of people hold conservative positions, voted for Trump, are glad he beat Hillary, but do not hold him to be the gold standard for conservatism.
There is one risk in the medium term. China. They control all of Latin America, all of Africa and Biden. Israel has a lot figured out. Germany has lost its marbles. So we need De Santis or Trump, and if we can’t elect them to Washington we have to separate because the alternative is terminal. The long term is unknown I expect that if we allow the Democrats and Chinese to run matters, the world economy will collapse but we will lead the way. Do folks actually believe that what’s going on in our economy can continue? We have to get China out of control and that means we have to get rid of Biden and elect the usual; ordinary crooks and a President who understands what’s going on and the risks we face.
Add Bobby Jindal to the list.
I wouldn’t vote for Ducey.