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How Republicans Will Elect Biden 2.0 in 2024
“Biden 2.0” is a stand-in for some Democrat figurehead of the Party of Death and Destruction (D). It could be Biden (D). It could be Harris (D). Maybe gruesome Newsome (D). Doesn’t matter, I predict we’ll have one of them, and it will be because “a majority [or, at least, a plurality] of Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party says we can’t have him.”
This is a similar dynamic to the Republican’s Taft-Roosevelt split that produced probably the most destructive presidency of the 20th century — Woodrow Wilson (D) — followed closely by FDR (D) and LBJ (D) (notice a pattern?).
Dan Gelernter spelled it out masterfully earlier in the month in Trump Was a Mistake, and now speaks for me in The Coming Split.
But, despite the obvious differences, we’re heading for a 1912-repeat, in which the Republican Party ignores its own voters. The Republican machine has no intention of letting us choose Trump again: He is not a uniparty team player. They’d rather lose an election to the Democrats, their brothers in crime, than win with Trump.
I especially appreciate his points here [emphasis mine]:
I’m sure I’ll be accused of being a shill for the Democrats here, and as far as I’m concerned that’s as credible as being accused of shilling for Russia these days. I’m not suggesting you have to do what I do, either. But I have no intention of supporting a Republican Party that manifestly contravenes the desires of its voters. The RNC can pretend Trump isn’t loved by the base anymore, that he doesn’t have packed rallies everywhere he goes. But I’m not buying it: Talk to Republican voters anywhere outside the Beltway, and it is obvious that he is admired and even loved by those who consider themselves “ordinary” Americans.
Mitch McConnell put cement boots on the Republican party and pushed it into the Potomac with this line: “providing assistance for Ukrainians to defeat the Russians is the number one priority for the United States right now, according to most Republicans.”
In response, I’ll quote a different Mc: “Nuts!” — General McAuliffe
Trump may be our General Patton and the Third Army of his voters the only force that can save America from Biden 2.0.
MAGA!
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The trick is to let a few Republicans win so the game doesn’t look rigged. But only controlled opposition.
Because he didn’t ignore cultural issues. He embraced them and fought for conservative culture.
Which is exactly what the GOP won’t do.
That is because it is not losing or winning to them. It is all about money. Who cares if you are a loser if you make more money than anybody else. They have no underlying integrity or ethics or morals just making money for them and theirs.
Keep spreading it. I didn’t mention Lake at all.
Interesting that some NTs here at ricochet have praised Florida for clearing up its voting/fraud issues. Of course, that had nothing to do with DeSantis margin of victory, did it.
Your babbling is making me sick. I suggest we disengage as I have nothing more to say.
They have to have Republicans win to a degree that the can justify the threat, the bogeyman. There has to be enough GOP so the bread and circus show goes on and the money gets pumped into Democrat causes. It is that the GOP is the Washington Generals of the political arena. To be honest the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals pretty much sum up American politics at this time.
“Biden 2.0” is a stand-in for some Democrat figurehead of the Party of Death and Destruction (D). It could be Biden (D). It could be Harris (D). Maybe gruesome Newsome (D). Doesn’t matter, I predict we’ll have one of them, and it will be because “a majority [or, at least, a plurality] of Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party says we can’t have him.”
I think that assuming that a plurality of primary voters will prefer Trump over another candidate is a mistake, WC. I’m not a NT – I voted for Trump in 2020 – but I would be much happier with a different candidate. I’m hearing that a lot from other Republican friends and family who also voted for him but aren’t happy with his behavior since the 2020 election. Ultimately, it’s the folks who show up at the precinct caucuses that will determine who the candidate is, as it has been so in the past.
Hmmm.
Don’t be fooled: Trump is ‘strong as ever’ say top pollsters.
I’m not happy with a lot of his behavior but am less happy with the rest of the party, with a couple of exceptions, of course.
You’ve just described the split I (and Gelernter) are predicting. All those people showing up at Trump rallies (and, btw, I’m not one of them) are not voting for the establishment candidate this time, whether or not Trump runs third party. I will join them in withholding my vote.
The uniparty must be destroyed (see McConnell, cement boots, Potomac). It’s them or us.
Ah yes, pollsters… the ones who consistently get it wrong. I’m not basing what I stated on polls, I’m basing it on the intentions of people I personally know who voted for Trump in the past but who would prefer someone else. Some people I’ve talked to are tired of the drama, some do not want an elderly man again in the White House, some don’t his focus on the 2020 election…..no doubt some are “all of the above” (and that includes me). Ultimately it’s who shows up at the precinct caucuses and primaries who will determine who the candidate is. All I’m saying is, do not presume that Trump will be the preferred candidate.
A majority in the House is more than that.
Is it? Promises, promises.
Paging Pauline Kael.
Nor am I. It’s just that the people telling you that nobody wants Trump anymore might not be telling you the truth. They are most likely crafting a narrative that they are going to place into your brain pan.
But what kind of majority do we have?
Again, isn’t Gelernter describing a situation where where the “people’s will” is denied? How is the winner of the primary’s not a reflection of the people’s will ?
Yes, it is. And if this plot to rig every significant election was in place, it never would have happened.
I assume part of the problem here is that the will of the people picks “Candidate Bob” and then McConnell comes out and says “Candidate Bob is of poor quality! We shall direct Republican Party funding away from him!”
That is, the people choose a candidate and expect the Party apparatchiks to get behind the people’s choice.
But they don’t. In this way, the will of the people is denied, and the will of the Party becomes dominant.
We have a majority that is better than not having a majority.
True. McConnell couldn’t stop this one. But he did prevent a majority in the Senate.
Right. Because so many in the GOP hate DeSantis….
That is difficult to do in a Presidential primary, which is what I was referring to. I understand the point otherwise.
It’s everything that’s happened since Trump won. The Republican majorities in Congress were unwilling to overturn Obamacare (McCain). They did not get behind Trump’s agenda and helped Democrats to obstruct it (Ryan, McConnell — oh, and McCain again (helping Hillary with the Russia collusion hoax). Nearly everything Trump accomplished he had to do by executive order (since overturned by Biden on day one) because he didn’t have the Republican establishment behind him.
Republicans (as some NTers have spoken the quiet part out loud here) are party-first. Not America first. The party serves their interests, not ours. They’ll repeat the narrative that Trump is unpopular with the base, that he can’t win, that he’s just a complainer about a non-issue like the lack of election integrity. . .
The primary may be reflective of the will of the people. Or the will of the people may be distorted by the liars and grifters who make up the uniparty. Even if Trump only garners 30% of Republican primary voters, it’s 30% the party can ill afford to lose against the united (and corrupt) Party of Death and Destruction++.
The party has expected us to fall in line behind their preferred candidates. A sizeable portion of us are done with that and insist on the reverse. They can get behind us (put America and Americans (not Ukrainians) first) or go to hell.
I do not like Trump but if the party hoists another McCain or Romney on us I am not voting. They would not support the bases guy well I will not support the GOPe guy. A pox on all their houses. I will start my share of tearing down and burning until the time of blood comes.
Well, I won’t argue with that, but it seems that I’m taking a more limited view of Biden 2.0 in ‘24, per the O/ P. In essence, I don’t get the specific point that Gelernter is making. He seems to be suggesting that a decent number of Trump supporters will sit out the general election if someone other thanTrump is the nominee, and that the GOP will lose as a result. That may be true, but it’s not because the desires of the primary voters were contravened. It’s because the primary voters selected someone who wasn’t Trump.
That’s not what I was suggesting. Rather they run away from right-wing cultural issues and chase after the holy “moderates”. DeSantis wades right in and people love him for it.
No, it will be the fault of the NT’s. They still haven’t figured out why we got Trump. They keep telling us to vote a certain way or the Democrats will win. They have no fear of voting for a 3rd party which helps the Democrats win. They have been playing a game of chicken with us for years and we keeping blinking. Time to no longer blink.
Trump people are weird yo.
Is it? It looks like we are up against Democrats and Democrats Lite. I’m done with this game. It is time to settle who runs the Repub Party and what it will stand for.
I would agree – anyone claiming that nobody wants Trump isn’t correct. There are plenty of “Always Trump” voters out there. How many remain to be seen. Again, all I’m sayimg is that I would not presume he is going to be the choice of a plurality of voters in the preceinct caucuses and primaries. Fer Pete’s sake, it’s too dang early for any assertions!
What does the GOP stand for? Anyone know?