‘2000 Mules’: Election Drop Boxes, ‘Geofencing,’ and ‘The Big Lie’

 

“We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.” Joe Biden

Those were the exact words from a grainy clip of then-presidential candidate Joe Biden that opens a new movie by conservative author, pundit, and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza, ‘“2000 Mules.” It was seen as just another gaffe by a candidate with a long history of malapropisms.

Salem Media Group and True the Vote (TTV) produced the movie. D’Souza relies on research from TTV’s President, Catherine Englebrecht, and TTV board member Gregg Phillips, a former state health official in Texas and Mississippi. Phillips also is a data analyst and the founder of several technology-related firms. He claims in the movie to have been “in and around” election integrity and analysis for 40 years.

Phillips is no stranger to controversy. He was the source of claims made by President Trump in 2017, never confirmed, that 3 million illegal votes were cast in the 2016 election. Mainstream media has worked overtime to discredit him and TTV, including a major investor’s claim that he was duped and other unsubstantiated claims. Yet, Phillips and TTV persist.

D’Souza, who launched a podcast in 2021 on the Salem platform, sets the stage with clips from three Republicans – former Attorney General Bill Barr (“Fraud did not play a role in the outcome of the election”), US Sen. Mike Rounds (“the election was fair”), and of course, US Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY). He touches on “J6” at the US Capitol, claiming it “wasn’t an insurrection. It was a primal scream. They wanted their elected leaders to adjudicate the claims of election fraud.”

“We can’t ‘move on’ until we know the truth,” D’Souza continues. “Is it a ‘big lie?’ It is a lie at all?”

D’Souza also relies on a panel of Salem radio talk show and podcast hosts, including Dennis Prager, Eric Metaxas, Larry Elder, Charlie Kirk, and former Trump administration official Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Most express reservations about election fraud claims in the first interviews.

By the end of the movie, they’re aghast. You may be, too. One of the retorts we often hear concerning claims of vote fraud is the phrase “without evidence.” Except that D’Souza, Englebrecht, and Phillips provide actual official footage of crimes committed by “mules” in the form of drop-box stuffing of ballots, often during the dark of night. Most states, including Pennsylvania – a particular focus of illegal election activity in the movie – prohibit voters from casting more than one ballot, their own, at drop boxes.

Drop boxes – many of them privately funded via $400 million from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg through the left-wing Center for Tech and Civic Life – were a unique feature of the pandemic-scarred 2020 election. Most were placed in Democratic-leaning counties and jurisdictions.

Here’s a dropbox outside of Arlington County, Virginia offices in the 2021 state elections.

Interestingly, as The Federalist reported, “Facebook has banned Trump from its platform and has delisted individuals — many of them conservatives — for espousing views about the election that it insists are “misinformation.”

Credit D’Souza for asking all the right questions throughout the movie. Let’s take one of the first: if Biden was so successful, why did Democrats lose so many down-ballot races for US House and other races? After all, a newly-elected President usually has coattails and sees increases in his party’s hold on Congress.

House Republicans gained 14 seats in 2020. In fairness, much of that is a rebound from the 2018 election when the GOP lost 40 seats. But, still, it is an anomaly for a new President to lose seats.

Pennsylvania is a better example. Biden “won” the state with 3.46 million votes and a margin of about 80,000 with 6.915 million votes cast. On election night, Trump led by nearly 800,000 votes before mail votes were counted. There were three other statewide elections for Attorney General, Treasurer, and Auditor General. Democrats held all, and other than Auditor General, a popular Democratic incumbent was on the ballot.

While Attorney General and 2022 Democratic gubernatorial nominee presumptive Josh Shapiro narrowly won reelection, the total ballots cast for Attorney General were over 110,000 fewer than for President.

Republican challengers Stacey Garritty (Treasurer) and Tim DeFoer (Auditor-General) won the other two races for the first time in several years. The ballot drop-off in those elections was nearly 150,000.

There are two explanations. First, a drop-off in ballots cast for down-ballot races is not uncommon, although 109,000 seems high. Second, in Act 77, the Pennsylvania legislature eliminated a ballot box for straight-party voting in 2020. If you are committing fraud by producing as many ballots as possible and only have time to mark one box, it will be for the top of the ballot – the presidency. Thus, the drop-off.

Phillips explained how TTV’s research worked. They obtained some 10 trillion cell phone “signals” using a petabyte of data. They narrowed their research to focus on “signals” that visited ten or more election drop boxes and five or more visits to “nonprofit” organizations that have collected ballots, starting in Georgia. They expanded their research to include Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.

Remember, most state laws, including Pennsylvania, restrict the number of ballots (one) that any single voter can cast at a dropbox. Ballot harvesting – collecting and delivering ballots on behalf of voters – is illegal in most states. While most states have provisions to allow others to deliver ballots on their behalf, it is highly restricted.

A “mule” is a person who picks up ballots from an organization – “stash houses” – and delivers them to a series of drop boxes. According to Engelbrecht’s sources, mules are typically paid about $10 per ballot. They often take selfies of them depositing ballots to ensure payment. “In the Georgia (US Senate runoff, January 5, 2021), that payment was higher.”

Dozens of mules who participated in violent Antifa-BLM riots in Atlanta were also mules in the 2020 election, reports Phillips. Over 240 mules were identified in Atlanta. Some mules, especially in Michigan, visited about 100 dropboxes.

BLM rioters also were utilized as mules to drop ballots at multiple dropbox locations in Atlanta.

There were 1,100 mules identified in Philadelphia – many of driving back and forth across bridges from New Jersey – visiting as many as 50 drop boxes each. And TTV has 4 million minutes of surveillance video from across the country to help prove their case, obtained through open records requests. Except Wisconsin has no video, even though it was required under state law. Other jurisdictions, such as Arizona, turned off some footage. But where they do, TTV has the geospatial data to support the video.

Here is an Atlanta “mule” depositing – and dropping – ballots he’s stuffing into a dropbox during the night.

At one Gwinnett County, Georgia, 271 voters were videotaped dropping ballots at a drop box. Over 1,962 ballots were deposited, according to official “chain of custody” documents.

“This is organized crime,” Phillips asserts. With evidence. It appears even to violate federal racketeering laws (RICO).

And this is only from the first half of the movie. Watch the rest. You can access it here.

What will be done about this, given that Republican candidates are punished for making election fraud a top issue? Worse, can we expect the Biden Administration’s Justice Department to do anything?

The good news is that some jurisdictions are taking action, including either eliminating dropboxes or increasing surveillance. Some eighteen state laws have been changed to prevent “Zuckbucks” from privately subsidizing official elections, including Georgia. As for geofencing, a tool used chiefly by advertisers and law enforcement agencies, it is proving to be a valuable tool in elections. Including exposing fraudulent activity.

D’Souza then asks the $64,000 question – was the scope of election fraud big enough to tip the balance in the 2020 election. He says yes, especially in Georgia, Arizona, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The combined electoral votes from those three states were enough to put Biden over the top.

D’Souza leaves many questions unanswered. He does not disclose the names of “nonprofits” who acted as “stash houses” for mules to pick up and deposit multiple ballots. Where and how did these stash houses collect ballots? Where did the money come from to subsidize this effort? Will TTV provide this data to law enforcement authorities? Nowhere in America is it legal for nonprofit organizations to collect ballots and pay mules to deliver them, D’Souza asserts. Some 2000 mules visited 38 dropboxes each to deposit nearly 400,000 illegally-cast votes.

Associated Press attempted to “fact check” the movie. AP claims falsely that the film is based on a flawed analysis of geofenced data. They claim it isn’t precise, but that is laughably false. Drive up to any gasoline retailer who uses geospatial data to spot your presence at their pumps to text you with special deals. It has happened to me. Further, Phillips cited an instance where their geospatial data helped identify an alleged killer in Atlanta at the precise location where the murder occurred. The alleged killer has been arrested.

Election fraud is hard to prove. It takes time, money, and much effort, much more than was available between the November 2020 election and swearing-in day just 10 weeks later. There are unanswered questions. But eventually, the truth comes out. Like it or not, D’Souza has upped the anty on election integrity for the 2022 election. Local and state officials had better be prepared to respond.

Joe Biden might have been correct. Democrats and their allies may have created the largest and most inclusive voter fraud organization in American political history. Will we ever know with certainty?

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  1. Cassandro Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Why all the rules, trying to disenfranchise minorites etc? Let a million – no, a BILLION! – ballots flow!

    It is SUPPRESSION to mail out ballots that require manually filling out. We know certain people are unable to fill in circles, therefore we *must* send out pre-filled ballots!!

    Why even mail them out? There’s no need. Just mail them directly to where the pre-filled ballots get counted!

    Yeah, cut out the middle man.  Makes good financial sense.

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  2. Django Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Volkswagen made cars that could work differently when being tested, and so can Dominion and others with voting machines.

    Which is why, at least where I live, the tests are on the same machines that are used for elections. Essentially before every election, the Clerk’s staff in Guadalupe county creates an election with test ballots, and then with the same ballots that will be used in the election and then runs them through the machines and looks at the results. Then you look at those results and ensure that they match what you ran through the system via the Zero Tapes, and then the tabulation data set, and then the consolidated data set. This is done for each election, and while I cannot verify that every machine is tested for each election, when I had asked about it, that was the implication that I got from the Clerk’s office. Sure, it still could be manipulated, but its much more difficult to do so. That is one reason why they run these as “real” elections each time so that they are not in any “test” mode.

    The VW cars were not put into any kind of specific “test mode,” they detected that they were being tested because of what was being done, and altered their behavior.

    If the machines even have day/date calendars running, which most any OS will have, then they can tell it’s not “election day” and run the straight-up software. But on “election day” they could behave differently.

    Similarly, if a machine would normally expect to get, say, 1000 or more votes on “election day,” then if they’re given only 100 ballots as a “test,” then they can behave properly. And when given 1000 or more ballots, they do the shenanigans.

    And then, after “election day,” the software could be made to delete the shenanigans code, and all that’s left to be “audited” looks fine.

    FWIW: According to UNIX “man” pages, one can set system time with the “date” command and appropriate parameters. If the OS is something like OS-9, the same command should be available. A rigorous test would take time into account. I used the systems as engineering tools and depended on the IT folks to handle those issues, so I’m no UNIX/Linux expert. 

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    Volkswagen made cars that could work differently when being tested, and so can Dominion and others with voting machines.

    Which is why, at least where I live, the tests are on the same machines that are used for elections. Essentially before every election, the Clerk’s staff in Guadalupe county creates an election with test ballots, and then with the same ballots that will be used in the election and then runs them through the machines and looks at the results. Then you look at those results and ensure that they match what you ran through the system via the Zero Tapes, and then the tabulation data set, and then the consolidated data set. This is done for each election, and while I cannot verify that every machine is tested for each election, when I had asked about it, that was the implication that I got from the Clerk’s office. Sure, it still could be manipulated, but its much more difficult to do so. That is one reason why they run these as “real” elections each time so that they are not in any “test” mode.

    The VW cars were not put into any kind of specific “test mode,” they detected that they were being tested because of what was being done, and altered their behavior.

    If the machines even have day/date calendars running, which most any OS will have, then they can tell it’s not “election day” and run the straight-up software. But on “election day” they could behave differently.

    Similarly, if a machine would normally expect to get, say, 1000 or more votes on “election day,” then if they’re given only 100 ballots as a “test,” then they can behave properly. And when given 1000 or more ballots, they do the shenanigans.

    And then, after “election day,” the software could be made to delete the shenanigans code, and all that’s left to be “audited” looks fine.

    FWIW: According to UNIX “man” pages, one can set system time with the “date” command and appropriate parameters. If the OS is something like OS-9, the same command should be available. A rigorous test would take time into account. I used the systems as engineering tools and depended on the IT folks to handle those issues, so I’m no UNIX/Linux expert.

    A smart programmer could anticipate that too.  For example, examine the log file(s), and if there’s a sudden date/time change, it’s being tested.

    What really needs to happen is giving up on the idea of having computers do the counting.  Lots of people believe that a computer can only count, and can only do so accurately.  They’re idiots.

    The votes could still be counted electronically, but using only a simple sensor that clicks maybe even a mechanical counter for each spot found in various places on a form…  Then you can’t program in shenanigans.

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  4. Django Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Volkswagen made cars that could work differently when being tested, and so can Dominion and others with voting machines.

     

    The VW cars were not put into any kind of specific “test mode,” they detected that they were being tested because of what was being done, and altered their behavior.

    If the machines even have day/date calendars running, which most any OS will have, then they can tell it’s not “election day” and run the straight-up software. But on “election day” they could behave differently.

    Similarly, if a machine would normally expect to get, say, 1000 or more votes on “election day,” then if they’re given only 100 ballots as a “test,” then they can behave properly. And when given 1000 or more ballots, they do the shenanigans.

    And then, after “election day,” the software could be made to delete the shenanigans code, and all that’s left to be “audited” looks fine.

    FWIW: According to UNIX “man” pages, one can set system time with the “date” command and appropriate parameters. If the OS is something like OS-9, the same command should be available. A rigorous test would take time into account. I used the systems as engineering tools and depended on the IT folks to handle those issues, so I’m no UNIX/Linux expert.

    A smart programmer could anticipate that too. For example, examine the log file(s), and if there’s a sudden date/time change, it’s being tested.

    What really needs to happen is giving up on the idea of having computers do the counting. Lots of people believe that a computer can only count, and can only do so accurately. They’re idiots.

    The votes could still be counted electronically, but using only a simple sensor that clicks maybe even a mechanical counter for each spot found in various places on a form… Then you can’t program in shenanigans.

    Valid point, but a smart tester would repeat the test on “election day” and on “test day”. Follow by examining directories for machine log files. Any files that appeared during the test would automatically be suspicious. Creating a valid test for a complex system is not easy, but it’s done every day when dealing with the government. Or was when I was there. 

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Volkswagen made cars that could work differently when being tested, and so can Dominion and others with voting machines.

     

    The VW cars were not put into any kind of specific “test mode,” they detected that they were being tested because of what was being done, and altered their behavior.

    If the machines even have day/date calendars running, which most any OS will have, then they can tell it’s not “election day” and run the straight-up software. But on “election day” they could behave differently.

    Similarly, if a machine would normally expect to get, say, 1000 or more votes on “election day,” then if they’re given only 100 ballots as a “test,” then they can behave properly. And when given 1000 or more ballots, they do the shenanigans.

    And then, after “election day,” the software could be made to delete the shenanigans code, and all that’s left to be “audited” looks fine.

    FWIW: According to UNIX “man” pages, one can set system time with the “date” command and appropriate parameters. If the OS is something like OS-9, the same command should be available. A rigorous test would take time into account. I used the systems as engineering tools and depended on the IT folks to handle those issues, so I’m no UNIX/Linux expert.

    A smart programmer could anticipate that too. For example, examine the log file(s), and if there’s a sudden date/time change, it’s being tested.

    What really needs to happen is giving up on the idea of having computers do the counting. Lots of people believe that a computer can only count, and can only do so accurately. They’re idiots.

    The votes could still be counted electronically, but using only a simple sensor that clicks maybe even a mechanical counter for each spot found in various places on a form… Then you can’t program in shenanigans.

    Valid point, but a smart tester would repeat the test on “election day” and on “test day”. Follow by examining directories for machine log files. Any files that appeared during the test would automatically be suspicious. Creating a valid test for a complex system is not easy, but it’s done every day when dealing with the government. Or was when I was there.

    I wouldn’t expect election people to be very capable of that, even if they were interested in doing it, which I doubt.

    And if such a testing regimen were put in place, I expect nefarious coders could find a way around that as well.

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  6. Dbroussa Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The VW cars were not put into any kind of specific “test mode,” they detected that they were being tested because of what was being done, and altered their behavior.

     

    If the machines even have day/date calendars running, which most any OS will have, then they can tell it’s not “election day” and run the straight-up software. But on “election day” they could behave differently.

    Not really since elections can be run for multiple day, and systems that never connect to another network can easily have their dates set differently.

    Similarly, if a machine would normally expect to get, say, 1000 or more votes on “election day,” then if they’re given only 100 ballots as a “test,” then they can behave properly. And when given 1000 or more ballots, they do the shenanigans.

    I think you are missing how these things work, and how many votes a system gets on election day.  The Vote Center that I work at on election day usually has the largest turnout for every election.  We actually get more turnout in Primaries than in General elections and the largest I have ever voted on election day was just under 950.  Usually its closer to 400-500.  The other thing is that in my county one machine marks the ballot after the voter selects what they want on a touch screen, and then it prints out a ballot card that the voter then places into a tabluator that counts the ballot and then stores the card in a secured box that we turn in at the end of the night.  Part of the canvas is to compare the printed cards to the results to ensure that they match.  So, when it comes to running cards through a tabulator (and we have two and one often gets a small number of cards run through so, while I suppose its possible, its unlikely.  I would prefer that open source code be used for these machines, but having a paper backup is a nice feature that was implemented years ago as opposed to DRE (Direct Recording Electronic) which had no audit trail.

    And then, after “election day,” the software could be made to delete the shenanigans code, and all that’s left to be “audited” looks fine.

    Its not that what you propose is impossible, and I can only speak to Guadalupe County in Texas, just unlikely and the more controls that are placed on the system the less likely it is that the systems can be compromised.  This is one reason that I like that each county runs their own elections and chooses their own equipment.  It makes cheating harder because you have to hack many more systems.  Doesn’t make it impossible, just harder.

    If you can, work the elections in your county and find out how they are being run, and then take action.

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  7. Dbroussa Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    What really needs to happen is giving up on the idea of having computers do the counting.  Lots of people believe that a computer can only count, and can only do so accurately.  They’re idiots.

    The primary reasons that we use computers to handle this are:

    1. Hanging Chads from mechanical readers, and optical readers had similar issues with voters marking with an X or a dot instead of bubbling it correctly
    2. Everyone demands results immediately.  Our prior county election clerk quit because at 7pm on election day, a couple of candidates started hassling her for results when we had about 60 polling locations, many an hour drive away from her office, and it takes an hour to close, and that assumes that no one is in line and you can start closing at 7.  It would be better if we were more patient, but no one is.  We want results, NOW, and that is going to mean automated counting.  Heck, even mechanical tabulators can be hacked.
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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    Its not that what you propose is impossible, and I can only speak to Guadalupe County in Texas, just unlikely and the more controls that are placed on the system the less likely it is that the systems can be compromised.  This is one reason that I like that each county runs their own elections and chooses their own equipment.  It makes cheating harder because you have to hack many more systems.  Doesn’t make it impossible, just harder.

    One of the important lessons of 2020 was that you don’t need to rig every state, or even every county in a state.  Just the big ones.  And especially the “swing” ones.

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  9. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    Do you have any evidence that the Dominion machines were faulty?

    The machines aren’t faulty at all. They work perfectly as designed to manipulate ballots and create them out of thin air. You’d know that if you were up to date on the literature. 

      None of those links you posted offered any evidence of it.  Only one link talked about how it could be possible to hack into voting machines and that is not evidence that it happened.

    It would take you a week to examine even a fraction of the data available on most of those links, many of them spell out the machine fraud in exacting detail, including several that I’ve written. David Clements spent much of the hearing on Monday explaining how the machines were used in NM, as well as how they had data wiped from them in “trusted build” updates after November 2020. See Tina Peters in CO and numerous examples elsewhere including in the AZ audit.

    Had you followed one of the links you might have learned that the Dominion machines have a printer feature within the feed tray. Have you ever had the machine kick your ballot back out at you when you tried to feed it in after voting? Did you check your ballot to make sure it didn’t fill in a bubble down ballot or duplicate a vote for the race you voted on? Because that would generate an adjudicated ballot which would mean a human could either discount your ballot or determine your voter intent. That printer feature is designed to fill in votes onto the paper, and has a catalog of different styles of circles designed to look like a human did it. Why do you think that is?  

    If you’re serious about learning the extent of the machine fraud spend a few days learning about the machine fraud. 

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  10. Steven Seward Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

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    Do you have any evidence that the Dominion machines were faulty?

    The machines aren’t faulty at all. They work perfectly as designed to manipulate ballots and create them out of thin air. You’d know that if you were up to date on the literature.

    None of those links you posted offered any evidence of it. Only one link talked about how it could be possible to hack into voting machines and that is not evidence that it happened.

    It would take you a week to examine even a fraction of the data available on most of those links, many of them spell out the machine fraud in exacting detail, including several that I’ve written. David Clements spent much of the hearing on Monday explaining how the machines were used in NM, as well as how they had data wiped from them in “trusted build” updates after November 2020. See Tina Peters in CO and numerous examples elsewhere including in the AZ audit.

    Had you followed one of the links you might have learned that the Dominion machines have a printer feature within the feed tray. Have you ever had the machine kick your ballot back out at you when you tried to feed it in after voting? Did you check your ballot to make sure it didn’t fill in a bubble down ballot or duplicate a vote for the race you voted on? Because that would generate an adjudicated ballot which would mean a human could either discount your ballot or determine your voter intent. That printer feature is designed to fill in votes onto the paper, and has a catalog of different styles of circles designed to look like a human did it. Why do you think that is?

    If you’re serious about learning the extent of the machine fraud spend a few days learning about the machine fraud.

    I’d be glad to read the evidence on the Dominion voting machine fraud.  Why don’t you explain some of it or link to an explanation of it.  If the machines generate a duplicate ballot that can be counted any way the operator wanted, then why didn’t the Trump team bring up this glaring defect in court filings?

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  11. Saint Augustine Member
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    Dbroussa (View Comment):

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    You have to include a photocopy of your ID that was used to register. All of that is validated before the ballot is opened.

    I’ve been mailing my vote from Asia since 2012, and they’ve never told me to do that.

    This law was passed in 2021 after the 2020 election and went into effect for the 2022 election cycle. It was widely reported that in the March primary Texas rejected 12.4% of the total votes by mail in large part because they failed to provide the form of ID they used with their application and include it with the ballot.

    According to NPR, Harris County returned 38% of its ballots for not meeting the criteria to be counted. Of course they also had 17.6% of their total votes cast by mail, which is WAY too high, but unsurprising for the level of effort that the Dems would have put into play to get mail voting in a city center.

    Please explain. I voted in the March primary.  I have no memory of them asking for a copy of my DL.

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  12. Saint Augustine Member
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    You have to include a photocopy of your ID that was used to register. All of that is validated before the ballot is opened.

    I’ve been mailing my vote from Asia since 2012, and they’ve never told me to do that.

    This law was passed in 2021 after the 2020 election and went into effect for the 2022 election cycle. It was widely reported that in the March primary Texas rejected 12.4% of the total votes by mail in large part because they failed to provide the form of ID they used with their application and include it with the ballot.

    According to NPR, Harris County returned 38% of its ballots for not meeting the criteria to be counted. Of course they also had 17.6% of their total votes cast by mail, which is WAY too high, but unsurprising for the level of effort that the Dems would have put into play to get mail voting in a city center.

    Please explain. I voted in the March primary. I have no memory of them asking for a copy of my DL.

    Pulled up the ballots in my email.  Voting absentee in Galveston County.  They did not ask for a photocopy of my DL.  They did want an ID number, and DL was one of three options.

    Where are you getting your information?

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  13. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    I’d be glad to read the evidence on the Dominion voting machine fraud.  Why don’t you explain some of it or link to an explanation of it.

    I did.  Here’s more:

    “Using the features existing on Dominion and ES&S machines across the country, nation-state vulnerability expert, Jeff Lenberg, can change votes in the cast vote record that don’t match the physical ballots.

    This means Dominion and ES&S representatives can easily perform this same action. With chip modems, this can be done remotely.

    Moreover, changes to the votes printed out on the tabulator tapes can easily be modified. And can be done remotely.

    Once those “changed” results are uploaded into your county election management system (EMS), the county has flawed results that do not match the ballots filled out by the “We the People.”

    Your clerk wouldn’t even know this occurred. We must get rid of the rigged election machines.”
    more…

    If the machines generate a duplicate ballot that can be counted any way the operator wanted, then why didn’t the Trump team bring up this glaring defect in court filings?

    They did and so have many others. People have been ignoring the facts for years…like you’re doing now.

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  14. Steven Seward Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    I’d be glad to read the evidence on the Dominion voting machine fraud. Why don’t you explain some of it or link to an explanation of it.

    I did.

    You gave me a link to 21 different articles.  I don’t have time to go on a wild goose chase so I chose the first one ”
    Dominion Training Audio Findings” which is specifically about a Dominion machines in Detroit.  Here is the list of their key takeaways, much of the technical jargon I do not understand:

    Dominion Voting Systems has repeatedly denied that its Detroit equipment was in any way connected to the internet. Yet, their training session tells a different story.

    • Tech support provided instructions on connecting equipment to internet
    • Vote tally reporting methods varied based upon municipality equipment profile
    • Detroit equipment featured 684 modems, “Listener Module” which features a dedicated server with encrypted TCP/IP protocol (internet connectivity).  Both tabulators and “Results Transfer Manager” communicate with the ImageCast Listener Server
    • “Warehouse” with election equipment referenced multiple times was staffed with Texas-based personnel (other employees referred to it as the “Chicago Warehouse”…in Detroit)
    • “Rovers” would provide hardware swaps (ICP) but were encouraged to do so discretely so as to avoid any “bad perception”

    All this stuff is very interesting but it doesn’t lend a shred of evidence that the machines were hacked or purposely changed vote totals.  It’s just a description of things that could possibly go wrong.  Perhaps Dominion was wrong or lied about Internet connectivity, I don’t know, but if you took this innuendo into court proving that the election was stolen they would throw it out with prejudice.

    Why don’t you just give me the #1 evidence, the smoking gun that proves this case so I don’t have to read 20 more articles.

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  15. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax)
    @DonG

    Django (View Comment):

    And then, after “election day,” the software could be made to delete the shenanigans code, and all that’s left to be “audited” looks fine.

    FWIW: According to UNIX “man” pages, one can set system time with the “date” command and appropriate parameters. If the OS is something like OS-9, the same command should be available. A rigorous test would take time into account. I used the systems as engineering tools and depended on the IT folks to handle those issues, so I’m no UNIX/Linux expert. 

    Devices like cars and phones have a bios that is signed and encrypted and cannot be modified with a dongle.  From that you can secure OS where things like time cannot be modified by the application layer software.  All modern CPUs support hardware based privileged mode to protect the OS. 

    • #165
  16. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    I’d be glad to read the evidence on the Dominion voting machine fraud. Why don’t you explain some of it or link to an explanation of it.

    I did.

    You gave me a link to 21 different articles. I don’t have time to go on a wild goose chase so I chose the first one ”
    Dominion Training Audio Findings” which is specifically about a Dominion machines in Detroit. Here is the list of their key takeaways, much of the technical jargon I do not understand:

    Dominion Voting Systems has repeatedly denied that its Detroit equipment was in any way connected to the internet. Yet, their training session tells a different story.

    • Tech support provided instructions on connecting equipment to internet
    • Vote tally reporting methods varied based upon municipality equipment profile
    • Detroit equipment featured 684 modems, “Listener Module” which features a dedicated server with encrypted TCP/IP protocol (internet connectivity). Both tabulators and “Results Transfer Manager” communicate with the ImageCast Listener Server
    • “Warehouse” with election equipment referenced multiple times was staffed with Texas-based personnel (other employees referred to it as the “Chicago Warehouse”…in Detroit)
    • “Rovers” would provide hardware swaps (ICP) but were encouraged to do so discretely so as to avoid any “bad perception”

    All this stuff is very interesting but it doesn’t lend a shred of evidence that the machines were hacked or purposely changed vote totals. It’s just a description of things that could possibly go wrong. Perhaps Dominion was wrong or lied about Internet connectivity, I don’t know, but if you took this innuendo into court proving that the election was stolen they would throw it out with prejudice.

    Why don’t you just give me the #1 evidence, the smoking gun that proves this case so I don’t have to read 20 more articles.

    One key aspect of many things such as elections, is that the burden of proof is to show that things WERE SECURE as required by law.  If they’re not, nobody needs to “prove” that X number of votes were flipped, or anything else.  If the process was not KNOWN and PROVEN to be secure, then the results should be discarded/ignored.

    If Chain of Custody is not maintained AS REQUIRED BY LAW, nobody needs to “prove” that someone actually opened a box of ballots and removed some, or replaced them, or anything else.  Just that Chain of Custody was not maintained, AS REQUIRED BY LAW, is sufficient to exclude them.

    • #166
  17. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    And then, after “election day,” the software could be made to delete the shenanigans code, and all that’s left to be “audited” looks fine.

    FWIW: According to UNIX “man” pages, one can set system time with the “date” command and appropriate parameters. If the OS is something like OS-9, the same command should be available. A rigorous test would take time into account. I used the systems as engineering tools and depended on the IT folks to handle those issues, so I’m no UNIX/Linux expert.

    Devices like cars and phones have a bios that is signed and encrypted and cannot be modified with a dongle. From that you can secure OS where things like time cannot be modified by the application layer software. All modern CPUs support hardware based privileged mode to protect the OS.

    I used to write “kernel mode” code on the OpenVMS system. When accounts were defined, they could be given “change mode to kernel” privilege. With that code could call the system service to change mode. Coding in that manner was difficult because something as simple as a “page fault” could cause a system crash since full process context was not available and those exceptions could not be processed except with full process context. I’m not that familiar with UNIX kernel mode, or even if UNIX geeks call it that, but I have used the date command to change system time when I was at the system console.

    • #167
  18. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Why don’t you just give me the #1 evidence, the smoking gun that proves this case so I don’t have to read 20 more articles.

    https://ricochet.com/822533/keeping-track-of-election-fraud/

    You could look at my incomplete analysis here if you like.  One of the last few chapters, I think.

    But you probably shouldn’t do that.

    Instead, I recommend learning why electronic election fraud is disturbingly plausible:

    https://ricochet.com/1033553/g-k-chestertons-take-on-electronic-voting-systems/

    It’s a 5-minute read, give or take.  It doesn’t say a darn thing about the 2020 election as such.  But, with that analysis in place, it might be good to start getting to know some of the lines of evidence concerning 2020–probably just one at a time.  I might be able to help there, too–but I recommend you ask me to tell you exactly what to read in my first link.

    • #168
  19. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Another adage that applies is, computers are machines that enable people to make mistakes – or, to cheat – at the speed of light.

    • #169
  20. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    Why don’t you just give me the #1 evidence, the smoking gun that proves this case so I don’t have to read 20 more articles.

    That’s rich.

    “I don’t have time to review two years of research from hundreds of sources confirming the claim from a preponderance of the evidence. Just give me one little data point to throw rocks at.” 

    Sad.

    • #170
  21. Steven Seward Member
    Steven Seward
    @StevenSeward

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    Why don’t you just give me the #1 evidence, the smoking gun that proves this case so I don’t have to read 20 more articles.

    That’s rich.

    “I don’t have time to review two years of research from hundreds of sources confirming the claim from a preponderance of the evidence. Just give me one little data point to throw rocks at.”

    Sad.

    No, I don’t.  I’ll go with St. Augustine’s suggested reading.

    • #171
  22. Dbroussa Coolidge
    Dbroussa
    @Dbroussa

    kedavis (View Comment):
    One of the important lessons of 2020 was that you don’t need to rig every state, or even every county in a state.  Just the big ones.  And especially the “swing” ones.

    Quite true, which is why I can only speak to my county where I live and work the polls, and have a reasonable belief that they are secure.  Outside of that domain, I now assume they are fraudulent because I have zero faith that any other state runs secure elections, and know that any that votes by mail can never be secure.  If it can be stolen once, it can be stolen every time.  Doesn’t mean it WILL be stolen every time, but it can be.  

    There is a post in the main feed about getting involved and the author is going to work the polls in PA for their primary.  Their training was on-line and quick.  Ours is in-person and takes 3 hours and we do it for every election we work.  I worked the primary in March and will work the general in November and have to be trained each time.  We have great handbooks that give us the step by step for every potential issue we may face, not just the guidebook (we have that as well).  It means that we are less likely to make mistakes, even though we still do from time to time.

    • #172
  23. Dbroussa Coolidge
    Dbroussa
    @Dbroussa

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Dbroussa (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    You have to include a photocopy of your ID that was used to register. All of that is validated before the ballot is opened.

    I’ve been mailing my vote from Asia since 2012, and they’ve never told me to do that.

    This law was passed in 2021 after the 2020 election and went into effect for the 2022 election cycle. It was widely reported that in the March primary Texas rejected 12.4% of the total votes by mail in large part because they failed to provide the form of ID they used with their application and include it with the ballot.

    According to NPR, Harris County returned 38% of its ballots for not meeting the criteria to be counted. Of course they also had 17.6% of their total votes cast by mail, which is WAY too high, but unsurprising for the level of effort that the Dems would have put into play to get mail voting in a city center.

    Please explain. I voted in the March primary. I have no memory of them asking for a copy of my DL.

    Pulled up the ballots in my email. Voting absentee in Galveston County. They did not ask for a photocopy of my DL. They did want an ID number, and DL was one of three options.

    Where are you getting your information?

    Could have sworn that I read that when I was perusing the Election Code, but it appears that I was in error.  Then again it might have been one of the news reports that mentioned it and it might have been wrong or misunderstood that the requirement was to use the same ID that was used in the application (TDL, last 4 of SSN, Voter Reg #, etc.)  My apologies for getting that wrong.

    • #173
  24. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Dbroussa (View Comment):

    Could have sworn that I read that when I was perusing the Election Code, but it appears that I was in error.  Then again it might have been one of the news reports that mentioned it and it might have been wrong or misunderstood that the requirement was to use the same ID that was used in the application (TDL, last 4 of SSN, Voter Reg #, etc.)  My apologies for getting that wrong.

    Oh, thank Heaven!  Things make sense!

    Thank you!

    • #174
  25. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    And a rap video.  Of course, a rap video.  Cuz that’s how we MAGA.

     

    • #175
  26. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    Why don’t you just give me the #1 evidence, the smoking gun that proves this case so I don’t have to read 20 more articles.

    That’s rich.

    “I don’t have time to review two years of research from hundreds of sources confirming the claim from a preponderance of the evidence. Just give me one little data point to throw rocks at.”

    Sad.

    No, I don’t. I’ll go with St. Augustine’s suggested reading.

    If you’re serious about starting to examine Dominions role in the election theft, perhaps start with the fact that Dominion had full access to every machine in use across the country, had remote access built-in to the them, denied the passwords to even the officials conducting the elections (found this out during the AZ audit) and sent Dominion employees across the country immediately after the election to perform “maintenance” and “software updates” on the physical machines. Later, in the few instances where auditors got access to the machines they discovered that sets of records were deleted for the 2020 election only (MI, AZ). We have them on video deleting these files. When another of those Dominion employees attempted to wipe a machine in Colorado the county clerk had the hindsight to secure the data before it was wiped. She went public and was persecuted for doing so. All of this is still being fought over.

    Or you could watch one of the HBO movies, Hacking Democracy, Kill Chain, that detailed the electronic voting system vulnerability as a baseline for understanding the data that all of those links and sources have been screaming about for two years.

    • #176
  27. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    Why don’t you just give me the #1 evidence, the smoking gun that proves this case so I don’t have to read 20 more articles.

    That’s rich.

    “I don’t have time to review two years of research from hundreds of sources confirming the claim from a preponderance of the evidence. Just give me one little data point to throw rocks at.”

    Sad.

    No, I don’t. I’ll go with St. Augustine’s suggested reading.

    If you’re serious about starting to examine Dominions role in the election theft, perhaps start with the fact that Dominion had full access to every machine in use across the country, had remote access built-in to the them, denied the passwords to even the officials conducting the elections (found this out during the AZ audit) and sent Dominion employees across the country immediately after the election to perform “maintenance” and “software updates” on the physical machines. Later, in the few instances where auditors got access to the the machines they discovered that sets of records were was deleted for the 2020 election only (MI, AZ). When another of those Dominion employees attempted to wipe a machine in Colorado the county clerk had the hindsight to secure the data before it was wiped. She went public and was persecuted for doing so. All of this is still being fought over.

    Or you could watch one of the HBO movies, Hacking Democracy, Kill Chain, that detailed the electronic voting system vulnerability as a baseline for understanding the data that all of those links and sources have been screaming about for two years.

    And the Dims were against it too, until they were for it…

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    • #177
  28. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    If it can be stolen once, it can be stolen every time.  Doesn’t mean it WILL be stolen every time, but it can be. 

    I think they’ve shown that it will be if the outcome disadvantages the Democrats control.

    I still have come to wonder about the accuracy of decades worth of elections that have occurred in certain cities and states.  Twenty years is plenty long enough for the conservative voting population to just think, that’s the voting public’s choice, I’m just being out-voted.

    • #178
  29. Steven Seward Member
    Steven Seward
    @StevenSeward

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    If it can be stolen once, it can be stolen every time. Doesn’t mean it WILL be stolen every time, but it can be.

    I think they’ve shown that it will be if the outcome disadvantages the Democrats control.

    How do you explain the Republican sweep in Blue State Virginia last year?

    • #179
  30. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    If it can be stolen once, it can be stolen every time. Doesn’t mean it WILL be stolen every time, but it can be.

    I think they’ve shown that it will be if the outcome disadvantages the Democrats control.

    How do you explain the Republican sweep in Blue State Virginia?

    Republicans are often just as dirty as Democrats. Republican legislators are the ones most responsible for continuing to stonewall election investigations. 

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