On A Rant

We discuss the events of the week, we talk to AEI’s Yuval Levin about leadership in a populist age and Andy McCarthy about the 25th Amendment and pardons. One of our hosts is dealing with a medical issue which he discusses here and in some members only content with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (available here).  Keep calm, carry on, and be nice to each other. This too shall pass.

 

 

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  1. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    You need to talk about policy, yesterday. 

    • #121
  2. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Yes, we know you agreed with Dennis when he said we needed to exile the President, his family, his staff and his prominent supporters and execute them should they try to return to the US.

    You don’t have to remind us how crazy you are. We know.

    You are overstating your case.  Dennis said something that was hyperbolic.  I pressed the “Like” button.  From that you are saying that I agree with each and every detail of what Dennis said.  If memory serves, you are grossly misstating what Dennis said.  

    The same would apply when I repeated statements made by Rob Long, one of our founders, which calls for figuratively burning Trump at the stake, which you have taken literally.  

    Perhaps you should take all of this seriously, but not literally.  

    • #122
  3. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Yes, we know you agreed with Dennis when he said we needed to exile the President, his family, his staff and his prominent supporters and execute them should they try to return to the US.

    You don’t have to remind us how crazy you are. We know.

    You are overstating your case. Dennis said something that was hyperbolic. I pressed the “Like” button. From that you are saying that I agree with each and every detail of what Dennis said. If memory serves, you are grossly misstating what Dennis said.

    The same would apply when I repeated statements made by Rob Long, one of our founders, which calls for figuratively burning Trump at the stake, which you have taken literally.

    Perhaps you should take all of this seriously, but not literally.

    Like many people said about Trump for years, which you and so many others ignored?

    • #123
  4. DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone Member
    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Yes, we know you agreed with Dennis when he said we needed to exile the President, his family, his staff and his prominent supporters and execute them should they try to return to the US.

    You don’t have to remind us how crazy you are. We know.

    You are overstating your case. Dennis said something that was hyperbolic. I pressed the “Like” button. From that you are saying that I agree with each and every detail of what Dennis said. If memory serves, you are grossly misstating what Dennis said.

    Your memory is about as good as Gropey Joe’s.

    The same would apply when I repeated statements made by Rob Long, one of our founders, which calls for figuratively burning Trump at the stake, which you have taken literally.

    Perhaps you should take all of this seriously, but not literally.

    Perhaps you don’t get to lecture me.

     

    • #124
  5. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Yes, we know you agreed with Dennis when he said we needed to exile the President, his family, his staff and his prominent supporters and execute them should they try to return to the US.

    You don’t have to remind us how crazy you are. We know.

    You are overstating your case. Dennis said something that was hyperbolic. I pressed the “Like” button. From that you are saying that I agree with each and every detail of what Dennis said. If memory serves, you are grossly misstating what Dennis said.

    Your memory is about as good as Gropey Joe’s.

    The same would apply when I repeated statements made by Rob Long, one of our founders, which calls for figuratively burning Trump at the stake, which you have taken literally.

    Perhaps you should take all of this seriously, but not literally.

    Perhaps you don’t get to lecture me.

     

    I find it sad, amusing, and predictable that Gary now wants to be taken seriously but not literally, which he and Rob and so many others denied to Trump for years.

    • #125
  6. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    Django (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    Not quite the stupidest comment I’ve ever read, but in the competition. The hatred and vindictiveness toward Trump disgusts me. Let the poor fool be.

    On a practical level, there is no need to risk making him a martyr in the eyes of many. You can’t win without them. Ignore him and they might let it slide. Follow your and Rob’s nonsense and you may lose them forever. But maybe that’s what you both want.

    Also, I thought “incitement” and calls for violence were very very bad. (They are btw…but if Trump is guilty of it, then certainly this blood thirsty guy squeeing for political leaders to be roasted alive certainly is.)

    • #126
  7. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… (View Comment):

    Peter and Rob,

    If you believe what you’ve said on this podcast, and take seriously Yuval Levin’s warnings, I’d ask you to consider how those lessons apply to this website. Increasingly you’re lending your own good names to a conspiricist fever swamp in which language proliferates the logical end point of which would be continued political violence.

    Shut down the member feed, lock comments on the main feed and refund subscriptions. I hope you can maintain the audio network and its many wonderful podcasts, but the “conversation and community” part should be written off as a failed experiment.

    I’ll always look back with affection on the days when those things could actually be found here but right now and for the foreseeable future the community is broken.

    You can always refund your own subscription and peace out if your delicate sensibilities are too aggrieved. 

    • #127
  8. Architectus Coolidge
    Architectus
    @Architectus

    StevenWilliams (View Comment):

    Rob consistently mis-identifies the “lick-spittle”. The establishment came to conservative voters years ago and told us, vote for us and we will reverse the slide toward socialism and oversized government. We gave them the House, “Oh we can’t do anything because we don’t have any real power. We need more.” We then provided the Senate “Thank you but we still can’t do anything. We’re afraid to act. The president will veto. Give us the presidency also”. Okay here is the presidency “Oh, you gave us the wrong president. We can’t possibly work with him. He might support the American People, the ‘lower unwashed classes’ go back to your hovels where you belong and how dare you not obey your betters” Until the Republican party starts actually working to limit government and restore our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms/rights there will be civil war within this party. The establishment Republicans wish to have the single-minded control that the Democrats seem to have. There is too much freedom of thought amongst the People according to the Establishmentarians.

    What I have yet to hear is a cogent definition of Populism. The best I have been able to determine is Populism is whenever the People disagree with the elite ruling class and insist the “Public servants” really be servants and not rulers.

    Reagan was my favorite populist president.  Populism is not a good or bad thing per se, it depends on what it is used for.  

    • #128
  9. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Albert Arthur (View Comment):

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):
    that a better world built on love can emerge.

    How’d that work out?

    Not so hot for Rome, but the British Empire rose from its ashes.

    Not that I think much of how that place is being run these days.

    I guess if you kind of gloss over the roughly 1,000 years after the fall of Rome, you could say the British Empire rose from its ashes. On a technical level its true. 

    • #129
  10. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    The GOP is worthless. Trump is the first GOP candidate I’ve voted for since Bush I — voted Constitution Party or just left it blank the rest of the time — and I rectified that mistake in 1992. Trump will be the last GOP candidate I vote for.

    Yeah well. I was NeverTrump until the Democrats showed me that they were completely insane. I am not going to say now what I will do in 4 years. In my opinion, Trump is worse than worthless. The policies were good but Trump did his inane thinking out loud too many times.

    You didn’t know before 4 years that democrats were insane? Do you just not usually pay attention?

    • #130
  11. DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone Member
    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Pagodan (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Albert Arthur (View Comment):

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):
    that a better world built on love can emerge.

    How’d that work out?

    Not so hot for Rome, but the British Empire rose from its ashes.

    Not that I think much of how that place is being run these days.

    I guess if you kind of gloss over the roughly 1,000 years after the fall of Rome, you could say the British Empire rose from its ashes. On a technical level its true.

    Yeah, it took awhile. But when Rome proper fell, it still existed for awhile out on the fringes of the empire. Particularly in Britain. One could easily make an argument that the British Empire was a continuation of the Roman Empire. I think Chesterton makes that argument pretty plainly in “A Short History of England.”

    • #131
  12. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Anyone that is freaking out about “populism” needs to watch this.

     

     

     

    • #132
  13. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    Nobody owes Trump anything.

    I find it interesting — all the Trump people fleeing the ship with less than a dozen days left.

    They are right to flee.

    I get the general anger about cabinet members etc. leaving their posts in protest, but I think I agree here. I don’t think Trump, or Cruz, or Hawley incited any violence, but the rioters were Trumps people. And they did riot, and whatever you think about it, it looks horrible. Admin members, conservatives, republicans, ricochet commenters etc. do not owe Trump anything here. Rob is at least right about the fact that we were in a better position 20 days ago than we are today, and we shat the bed. Listening to freaks like Lin Wood telling people not to vote, hinting at some goof ball Kraken plot that never materializes. And Trump went along. Devos should leave. She’s a serious person who wants to go on doing good in the world. 

    I’ll stop here, before this just becomes a ramble. I’m not Never Trump, look up my comments. I think he was a necessary gamble. I think it’s really too bad he lost. But we don’t owe him anything guys.

    • #133
  14. Pagodan Member
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    @MatthewBaylot

    StevenWilliams (View Comment):

    Architectus (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Rob took hydroxychloroquine? Sounds like he owes Trump an apology.

    Actually, ANOTHER apology.

    Nobody owes Trump anything.

    I owe President Trump a hearty ‘thank you’ for the most conservative administration since Reagan, for preventing the most corrupt Clinton from occupying the White House in the form of Hillary, for giving us incredible judges and justices, for reducing regulations, for historic achievements in the ME, for returning the US economy to new heights, for reducing unemployment to record lows, for giving us a 4 year break between race-baiting presidencies, and so much more.

    But sure, some (small) people can only celebrate those achievements if they are done by the morally spotless. Sorry, I’m not seeing those candidates around, so maybe we stop the moral preening and grow up. Defend the record boldly (assuming you consider the above to be positive developments), even as you recognize the imperfections of the one that helped bring them to reality. But so many on the Right are joining in being hysterical, as the Left has been for 4 years. Not a good look, and not the least bit conservative.

    Wonderfully stated. Thank you for a concise and insightful statement. The moral preening has become almost intolerable.

    I read this and instantly thought of Nordlinger. 

    • #134
  15. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    OK Stalin. 

    • #135
  16. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Can we get a de-Robbinsification of Ricochet? (I mean as long as calling for purges are cool and all.)

    • #136
  17. JuliaBach Coolidge
    JuliaBach
    @JuliaBach

    Three things I noticed:

    1) James has not been saying much for several episodes now.  I think I know why.

    2) It is amazing that Rob is so concerned about Trump’s impropriety towards our hallowed institutions, when those institutions betrayed the public during COVID, even to the point of denying many the treatments that his own family took.

    3) No one outside of D.C. knows or cares who Mitch McConnell is married to.  I love you, Peter, but only someone who spent too much time in D.C. would assume people think McConnell is a tool of the CCP because his wife is Asian.

    • #137
  18. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Yes, we know you agreed with Dennis when he said we needed to exile the President, his family, his staff and his prominent supporters and execute them should they try to return to the US.

    You don’t have to remind us how crazy you are. We know.

    You are overstating your case. Dennis said something that was hyperbolic. I pressed the “Like” button. From that you are saying that I agree with each and every detail of what Dennis said. If memory serves, you are grossly misstating what Dennis said.

    The same would apply when I repeated statements made by Rob Long, one of our founders, which calls for figuratively burning Trump at the stake, which you have taken literally.

    Perhaps you should take all of this seriously, but not literally.

    I think we’re just holding you to your own standard Gary.

    • #138
  19. Pagodan Member
    Pagodan
    @MatthewBaylot

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Pagodan (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Albert Arthur (View Comment):

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):
    that a better world built on love can emerge.

    How’d that work out?

    Not so hot for Rome, but the British Empire rose from its ashes.

    Not that I think much of how that place is being run these days.

    I guess if you kind of gloss over the roughly 1,000 years after the fall of Rome, you could say the British Empire rose from its ashes. On a technical level its true.

    Yeah, it took awhile. But when Rome proper fell, it still existed for awhile out on the fringes of the empire. Particularly in Britain. One could easily make an argument that the British Empire was a continuation of the Roman Empire. I think Chesterton makes that argument pretty plainly in “A Short History of England.”

    You could say that about a lot of Medieval Europe though. Good book on it all is The Inheritance of Rome by Chris Wickham. Basically middle ages Europe was a fusion of celto/germanic tribes, and the crumbling Roman administrative state kinda glued together by the Catholic church.  I’ll check out the Chesterton. 

    • #139
  20. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Pagodan (View Comment):
    but the rioters were Trumps people.

    The actually-peaceful (not just “mostly”) protesters were Trump people, but it’s likely that the actual violent ones were not.

    • #140
  21. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    JuliaBach (View Comment):

    Three things I noticed:

    1) James has not been saying much for several episodes now. I think I know why.

    2) It is amazing that Rob is so concerned about Trump’s impropriety towards our hallowed institutions, when those institutions betrayed the public during COVID, even to the point of denying many the treatments that his own family took.

    3) No one outside of D.C. knows or cares who Mitch McConnell is married to. I love you, Peter, but only someone who spent too much time in D.C. would assume people think McConnell is a tool of the CCP because his wife is Asian.

    Still no like-to-the-Nth-degree button, and I also think I know why…

    • #141
  22. DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone Member
    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Pagodan (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Pagodan (View Comment):

    I guess if you kind of gloss over the roughly 1,000 years after the fall of Rome, you could say the British Empire rose from its ashes. On a technical level its true.

    Yeah, it took awhile. But when Rome proper fell, it still existed for awhile out on the fringes of the empire. Particularly in Britain. One could easily make an argument that the British Empire was a continuation of the Roman Empire. I think Chesterton makes that argument pretty plainly in “A Short History of England.”

    You could say that about a lot of Medieval Europe though. Good book on it all is The Inheritance of Rome by Chris Wickham. Basically middle ages Europe was a fusion of celto/germanic tribes, and the crumbling Roman administrative state kinda glued together by the Catholic church. I’ll check out the Chesterton.

    Thanks for the book recommendation. Chesterton’s prose is . . . Chestertonian, so I’ve often found I had to read paragraphs a couple times to really get the gist of what he’s saying. And I still haven’t finished it. (True confession: when sermons are boring, I pull up Chesterton on my Kindle and read that instead.)

    • #142
  23. JuliaBach Coolidge
    JuliaBach
    @JuliaBach

    What many still seem to be unable to grasp is that it doesn’t matter who the Republican is in the race, whether they are an uncouth barbarian or the most elegant intellectal.  They will be destroyed with lies and innuendo, because it’s just so much easier to win an election and get political support that way.  Exhibit A:  Mitt Romney, a Boy Scout that was destroyed with “binders full of women,” not policy debates.  Exhibit B: Obama sure seemed to like winning elections by getting divorce records unsealed. We can burn Trump in effigy and throw him in a deep hole as Rob suggests and it. won’t. matter.  Democrats and the media will give everyone the Trump treatment.  Doubly so for DeSantis, who is wonderful but liberals already despise because he’s proving them wrong on COVID and they can’t seem to find the piles of bodies he’s hidden in the Everglades (now there’s a conspiracy theory for you, extremely popular on the left).

    • #143
  24. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    JuliaBach (View Comment):

    What many still seem to be unable to grasp is that it doesn’t matter who the Republican is in the race, whether they are an uncouth barbarian or the most elegant intellectal. They will be destroyed with lies and innuendo, because it’s just so much easier to win an election and get political support that way. Exhibit A: Mitt Romney, a Boy Scout that was destroyed with “binders full of women,” not policy debates. Exhibit B: Obama sure seemed to like winning elections by getting divorce records unsealed. We can burn Trump in effigy and throw him in a deep hole as Rob suggests and it. won’t. matter. Democrats and the media will give everyone the Trump treatment. Doubly so for DeSantis, who is wonderful but liberals already despise because he’s proving them wrong on COVID and they can’t seem to find the piles of bodies he’s hidden in the Everglades (now there’s a conspiracy theory for you, extremely popular on the left).

    Oh I grasp that fine, but you’re right that many people don’t.

    By the way, does it somehow violate the CoC if I express the opinion that you’re a lot more sensible than that other Julia who pops up occasionally?

    • #144
  25. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Pagodan (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Can we get a de-Robbinsification of Ricochet? (I mean as long as calling for purges are cool and all.)

    I believe that that would mean that a Cult of Personality has grown up around me, where little children learn to sing my many praises at school, where artists create art dedicated to my magnificence, and where adults say that they are ready to die in my honor as they assault the ramparts (or beaches).  I have somehow missed all of of that.  

    • #145
  26. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Pagodan (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Can we get a de-Robbinsification of Ricochet? (I mean as long as calling for purges are cool and all.)

    I believe that that would mean that a Cult of Personality has grown up around me, where little children learn to sing my many praises at school, where artists create art dedicated to my magnificence, and where adults say that they are ready to die in my honor as they assault the ramparts (or beaches). I have somehow missed all of of that.

    It may not have happened for YOU, but it sure happened with Obama.  Or did you miss all of that too?

    • #146
  27. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Pagodan (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Can we get a de-Robbinsification of Ricochet? (I mean as long as calling for purges are cool and all.)

    I believe that that would mean that a Cult of Personality has grown up around me, where little children learn to sing my many praises at school, where artists create art dedicated to my magnificence, and where adults say that they are ready to die in my honor as they assault the ramparts (or beaches). I have somehow missed all of of that.

    It may not have happened for YOU, but it sure happened with Obama. Or did you miss all of that too?

    Obama also created a Cult of Personality around him.  This goes both ways.  

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  28. kedavis Coolidge
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    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Can we get a de-Robbinsification of Ricochet? (I mean as long as calling for purges are cool and all.)

    I believe that that would mean that a Cult of Personality has grown up around me, where little children learn to sing my many praises at school, where artists create art dedicated to my magnificence, and where adults say that they are ready to die in my honor as they assault the ramparts (or beaches). I have somehow missed all of of that.

    It may not have happened for YOU, but it sure happened with Obama. Or did you miss all of that too?

    Obama also created a Cult of Personality around him. This goes both ways.

    The point, though, is that you don’t appear to have a problem with “cult of personality” as such, it’s just you want to be in the cult of personality for someone you “like.”  Or are you claiming that Biden/Harris don’t have their own cult of personality?

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  29. Gary Robbins Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Can we get a de-Robbinsification of Ricochet? (I mean as long as calling for purges are cool and all.)

    I believe that that would mean that a Cult of Personality has grown up around me, where little children learn to sing my many praises at school, where artists create art dedicated to my magnificence, and where adults say that they are ready to die in my honor as they assault the ramparts (or beaches). I have somehow missed all of of that.

    It may not have happened for YOU, but it sure happened with Obama. Or did you miss all of that too?

    Obama also created a Cult of Personality around him. This goes both ways.

    The point, though, is that you don’t appear to have a problem with “cult of personality” as such, it’s just you want to be in the cult of personality for someone you “like.” Or are you claiming that Biden/Harris don’t have their own cult of personality?

    I don’t like Obama.  I voted against him twice.  But, as opposed to Trump, I do respect Obama.

    • #149
  30. kedavis Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What a great podcast!

    Listen to Rob at 1:06:00.

    If Republicans want to survive, they need to cut him [Trump] loose.

    Start a bonfire, throw him on it.

    But not just not talk about him, trash him.

    Kill the demon. And then move on.

    Trash him, Cut him loose. Bury him 20 feet deep.

    This is more blood lust. If the President gets assassinated, you and Rob have incited it. You should both be ashamed.

    Running the gamut from Pelosi and Kerosene Maxine down to Rob and Gary, no one ever accuses any of them of incitement. Maybe it’s because no one takes them seriously even though they mean it.

    I am serious that there needs to be a process of “De-Trumpification” just as there was a process of “De-Baathification” in Iraq, and De-“You know what” in post-war Germany and Japan.

    Can we get a de-Robbinsification of Ricochet? (I mean as long as calling for purges are cool and all.)

    I believe that that would mean that a Cult of Personality has grown up around me, where little children learn to sing my many praises at school, where artists create art dedicated to my magnificence, and where adults say that they are ready to die in my honor as they assault the ramparts (or beaches). I have somehow missed all of of that.

    It may not have happened for YOU, but it sure happened with Obama. Or did you miss all of that too?

    Obama also created a Cult of Personality around him. This goes both ways.

    The point, though, is that you don’t appear to have a problem with “cult of personality” as such, it’s just you want to be in the cult of personality for someone you “like.” Or are you claiming that Biden/Harris don’t have their own cult of personality?

    I don’t like Obama. I voted against him twice. But, as opposed to Trump, I do respect Obama.

    Considering Obama’s actual behavior, that would suggest you were actually part of the cult of personality without realizing it.

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