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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    David Bryan (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    I’ve wanted John Is Always Wrong to be replaced with Sonny Is Always Right for a long time now.

    Sonny whored himself out to The Bulwank.

    I think Sonny truly believes in the Bulwark mission and the Bulwark view of President Trump.

    As to film criticism, Sonny seems (to me) utterly inundated with boredom for the subject both of the films being reviewed and of his own reviews. To my perception, he seems this way also in his Friday interaction with Hugh Hewitt.

    I hope I am wrong

    I assume the fact that Sonny was out of a job (he and his whole family moved to Texas for a gig that ended up disappearing) had a lot to do with his joining the Bulwark. I actually think it’s very sweet that JVL helped him get a new job. (I never read any of his stuff but dearly loved The Sub-Beacon, may it rest in peace.)

    Wasn’t Sonny’s “gig” his own business? Which didn’t “disappear,” he closed it himself, and I’m not sure that really made sense. From what he described it was making money and getting better, but just not quickly enough for someone’s taste? I don’t remember all the details now. But it sure didn’t seem to be a case of someone else “pulling the rug out from under him.”

    I don’t think that’s what happened.

    I never really even tried to follow the details of Sonny’s new business, but I don’t get the connection.  Was Cinestate backing Sonny’s venture?  Considering this “blow-up” all seemed to happen well before Sonny even started Rebeller Media, I don’t know how they could have been able to back him, or why Sonny would have accepted at that time.

    • #121
  2. HeavyWater Inactive
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    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Giuliani and Powell both have a long track record of winning their court cases.

    Not in post-election litigation.  Trump’s legal team has won 1 court case and lost 31 court cases.  

    But they get paid regardless.  Giuliani couldn’t even remember, while speaking to the judge in a recent court case, what the meaning of the word opacity was.  Giuliani is running on fumes.  He had not practiced law in decades until these recent court cases and he fumbled badly.

    The Trump crowd, as you call it, was 72,000,000 people who were probably 90,000,000 when properly tabulated.

    Here you are conflating everyone who voted for Trump with everyone who is willing to donate money to the Trump legal defense fund.  The latter is a smaller group of people.  

    If you are looking for a scam, I’d check out the money-grubbing weasels at the Lincoln Project. Just remember, if you get too close to those guys, hold onto your wallet. They have a serious cash addiction and would run over your grandmother (or anybody’s grandmother) for $5.

    I agree that the people behind the Lincoln Project were motivated by the desire to make money.  Did they believe in the “cause” of defeating Trump and Republicans generally?  I’m on the fence on that one.  Many attorneys and many campaign consultants will work for anyone who pays the bills.  

    • #122
  3. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):
    Yeti persisted!

    This is a GREAT joke. I approve this message. Well done. 

    • #123
  4. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Interestingly enough, @saintaugustine has been doing that very thing on his marvelous post, Keeping Track of Election Fraud.

     

    Maybe Trump should fire Rudy and hire @saintaugustine. I’d be in favor of that.

    • #124
  5. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    They already carry Bill Kristol so it probably isn’t far behind.

    We started carrying Bill’s show long before he went #NT. Our contract with him is up at the end of the year. That’s all I can say about it.

    • #125
  6. Blue Yeti Admin
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    iWe (View Comment):

    And somehow, the Ricochet Editors REFUSE to bring it to the Main Feed.

    This stinks. Treating members badly is not a good move for the management of a club.

    Will look into this. I don’t think there is anything conspiratorial going on, but I’ll inquire and report back.

    • #126
  7. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Franco (View Comment):

    LOL. In the very same comment after calling out Ed G for using first-person plural, you use first person possessive! Who is OUR?

    Fair enough, Franco. I just meant that I wasn’t quoting the NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, etc. But I do always appreciate good grammar corrections. 

    Listen, there may be some holes and flaws in some of the charges. I don’t really know. That’s normal for any case that has this many elements. But to conclude there’s nothing ‘there’ is a heluva stretch. Snipe all you like about legal errors, but don’t think your nothing-to-see-here approach isn’t considered an abject betrayal. Why? Because it’s not necessary at this point unless you have a stake in the outcome. 

    Once more for the record: I am not saying there is nothing  to see here. There is fraud, there are missed ballots, there may even be more nefarious behavior. But the Trump legal team is claiming massive fraud involving millions of votes across multiple states and districts, that if true would require hundreds of people to pull off. They have not produced any evidence of fraud on that scale. They’ve talked about it a lot on TV, but not actually provided it to a court or a state election commission. 

    As to your spurious claims that Sidney Powell has to produce hard evidence on Tucker’s ( now failing ) show before presenting it in a legal venue, and conclude that she therefore has no evidence since she declined, dovetails nicely with all the other misunderstandings and conflicting notions you hold.

    One, Tucker Carlson’s show is not “failing,” my friend: Fox News’ ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ Is Highest-Rated Cable News Show Ever

    “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” the network’s 8 p.m. ET offering, became the highest-rated news show in cable history with 5.359 million average viewers and an average of 1.003 million viewers in the advertiser-coveted age demographic of 25 to 54.”

    Or if it is failing, give me some of that type of failure. I’ll take it. 

    Two, it’s not like Powell hasn’t had the chance to present her “evidence” in a legal venue — the Trump campaign has been involved on several dozen court cases and has lost most of them. So if she’s got the goods, what exactly is she waiting for?

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  8. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Powell and Giuliani are putting their entire livelihoods on the line here and the only thing they get is ridicule.

    I know who has earned my respect. Now, if they are wrong and they continue to be successful and prosperous in their careers, I’ll know they are no different than JPod, Jonah, David, and the rest of the punditocracy that never suffer the consequences for being wrong.

    They are likely wrong (but I’m open to them being right!) and they will suffer little or no consequences. Well, Powell will probably be OK — she’s a hired gun. Rudy’s situation is more complicated.

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  9. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    Red flags are not proof. They are indicators. The IRS uses red flags to sample filed returns for inquiry and/or audit, for example. Of course there are indicators in every election if anyone wants to look. This election people are looking, and there are bigger flags than I usually notice.

    Red flags are not proof. Are you seriously claiming that there are no red flags even?

    One more time: the Trump legal team is arguing that massive fraud to the tune of millions of votes occurred in multiple states and districts across the county, that if true would involve several hundred people working in tandem. That is not “red flags.” That’s an epic fireworks show that goes on for hours and if it occurred, there should be lots of evidence for it. Where is it?

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  10. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Stina (View Comment):

    But there is no evidence of fraud in this election.

    It’s not that I can’t be wrong. It’s that Blue Yeti and the national media can’t be wrong. Clearly, they are better than me, so I should believe them.

    Or something.

    Of course there is fraud. There always is some fraud. But what you are alleging is massive fraud involving millions of votes. Have not seen any actual evidence of that. Have you? If so, can you show it to us?

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  11. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Ed G. (View Comment):
    I personally don’t care about presenting evidence on TV. I care about presenting evidence in court where something will or will not be done about it. We’ll find out soon the extent of what they have or don’t have – why the premature bashing?

    It’s not premature. The Trump campaign have been involved in numerous cases around the country and lost most of them. Time is running out. If they have the goods, they better show them sooner than later. 

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  12. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s actually “intents and purposes” but I expect you to respond that you did it deliberately. Question then is, who would believe that?

    Calm down, it was a typo. I’m trying respond to as many comments as I can as fast as I can.

    I liked you better when you were correcting me on episode numbers (usually –but not always– typos too). 

    • #132
  13. Stina Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    But there is no evidence of fraud in this election.

    It’s not that I can’t be wrong. It’s that Blue Yeti and the national media can’t be wrong. Clearly, they are better than me, so I should believe them.

    Or something.

    Of course there is fraud. There always is some fraud. But what you are alleging is massive fraud involving millions of votes. Have not seen any actual evidence of that. Have you? If so, can you show it to us?

    Only the same stuff you’ve seen. Maybe a bit more.

    It’s possible I’m gullible. It’s also very possible you guys are overly skeptical.

    It isn’t that evidence doesn’t exist. It’s that it isn’t enough to convince you. But I can’t help you with that. And you can’t make me more skeptical. Maybe you could, but not through appeals to authority pointing to a pundit class (pro Trump or not) that breeds bad thinking and rarely suffers for it.

    My trust in them is thoroughly scorched. Little was done by most to repair it. Tucker might be different, but I tend to err on the “wait and see” side and I know not many have the patience or fortitude to bear with that. And it is possible Tucker thinks we are being taken in. And I’ll take it under advisement. I’m not ready to give up yet.

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  14. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    LOL. In the very same comment after calling out Ed G for using first-person plural, you use first person possessive! Who is OUR?

    Fair enough, Franco. I just meant that I wasn’t quoting the NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, etc. But I do always appreciate good grammar corrections.

    Listen, there may be some holes and flaws in some of the charges. I don’t really know. That’s normal for any case that has this many elements. But to conclude there’s nothing ‘there’ is a heluva stretch. Snipe all you like about legal errors, but don’t think your nothing-to-see-here approach isn’t considered an abject betrayal. Why? Because it’s not necessary at this point unless you have a stake in the outcome.

    Once more for the record: I am not saying there is nothing to see here. There is fraud, there are missed ballots, there may even be more nefarious behavior. But the Trump legal team is claiming massive fraud involving millions of votes across multiple states and districts, that if true would require hundreds of people to pull off. They have not produced any evidence of fraud on that scale. They’ve talked about it a lot on TV, but not actually provided it to a court or a state election commission.

    As to your spurious claims that Sidney Powell has to produce hard evidence on Tucker’s ( now failing ) show before presenting it in a legal venue, and conclude that she therefore has no evidence since she declined, dovetails nicely with all the other misunderstandings and conflicting notions you hold.

    One, Tucker Carlson’s show is not “failing,” my friend: Fox News’ ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ Is Highest-Rated Cable News Show Ever

    “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” the network’s 8 p.m. ET offering, became the highest-rated news show in cable history with 5.359 million average viewers and an average of 1.003 million viewers in the advertiser-coveted age demographic of 25 to 54.”

    Or if it is failing, give me some of that type of failure. I’ll take it.

    Two, it’s not like Powell hasn’t had the chance to present her “evidence” in a legal venue — the Trump campaign has been involved on several dozen court cases and has lost most of them. So if she’s got the goods, what exactly is she waiting for?

    NYT, CNN, WaPo, are not the only enemies of Trump. You know that right? NR published Never Trump about 4 years ago, remember? 

    So you’re not claiming there’s no fraud? Ok. How much is there? Is it enough to turn the election? If not, how do you know? So why the ‘let’s move along’ position ?

    Tucker Carlson’s ratings are down significantly. You’re citing old ratings. Fox News is on life support. Truth is ALL pseudoconservative platforms are done now.

     

     

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  15. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Two, it’s not like Powell hasn’t had the chance to present her “evidence” in a legal venue — the Trump campaign has been involved on several dozen court cases and has lost most of them. So if she’s got the goods, what exactly is she waiting for?

    She hasn’t. Those are not suits brought by the campaign itself and I imagine she’s amassing evidence for future cases. I’m not a lawyer, but it’s very very credible to me that someone like Sydney Powell doesn’t muscle her way into a citizen’s lawsuit shoehorning her evidence into a peripheral case. It’s pretty obvious they have a different strategy. 
    I went to TIME magazine link and it de-credulized itself in the first sentence, claiming Biden is the President Elect – simply not true – and claimed the AP the arbiter of US elections in the same sentence. You believe this kind of thing?

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  16. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):
    I personally don’t care about presenting evidence on TV. I care about presenting evidence in court where something will or will not be done about it. We’ll find out soon the extent of what they have or don’t have – why the premature bashing?

    It’s not premature. The Trump campaign have been involved in numerous cases around the country and lost most of them. Time is running out. If they have the goods, they better show them sooner than later.

    Time.com link. Complete BS from the beginning to end. This is the level Yeti operates from. His sources are frauds.

    First sentence from the article:

    Joe Biden won the presidential election on Nov. 7 after the Associated Press called him the winner in Pennsylvania, pushing the former Vice President past the 270 electoral college votes needed to clinch the White House.

    Really?

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  17. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Of course there is fraud. There always is some fraud.

    Why?

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  18. Blue Yeti Admin
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    @BlueYeti

    Franco (View Comment):

    NYT, CNN, WaPo, are not the only enemies of Trump. You know that right? NR published Never Trump about 4 years ago, remember? 

    Did you see me mention NR in my comment? I am well aware of their history and that they did not endorse Trump in this election.

    So you’re not claiming there’s no fraud? Ok. How much is there? Is it enough to turn the election? If not, how do you know? So why the ‘let’s move along’ position ?

    I have no idea. But it’s not MY job to prove the negative. I accept the results until I see evidence refuting the results. have not seen that. Yet.

    Tucker Carlson’s ratings are down significantly. You’re citing old ratings. Fox News is on life support. Truth is ALL pseudoconservative platforms are done now.

    Old? That article was from two weeks ago (October 27th). Did I miss something and have his rating crashed in the last 10 days?  Ah, no they have not: here’s the overnights from last night and gosh darnit, Tucker was the most viewed show on cable, pulling just under 8 million viewers. So, he’s actually UP from his October high water mark of 5mm viewers. 

    I’m more than happy to discuss the media business with you, Franco. But you better bring your A game because it’s what I do. 

     

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  19. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Time.com link. Complete BS from the beginning to end. This is the level Yeti operates from. His sources are frauds.

    First sentence from the article:

    Joe Biden won the presidential election on Nov. 7 after the Associated Press called him the winner in Pennsylvania, pushing the former Vice President past the 270 electoral college votes needed to clinch the White House.

    Really?

    So you are disputing the list of court cases that the article lists? Because that’s the only reason I cited it. It’s just a list. Pretty hard to inject bias into a list. I’ll find you another list if you prefer. But you gave me a hard time when I linked to Powerline, Ericsson, and Andy McCarthy, so I don’t really know who you’d accept. 

     

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  20. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Did you see me mention NR in my comment? I am well aware of their history and that they did not endorse Trump in this election.

    They ran a pair of editorials this year, one for and one against.

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  21. repmodad Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):
    NYT, CNN, WaPo, are not the only enemies of Trump. You know that right? NR published Never Trump about 4 years ago, remember? 

    The issue was, I think, Against Trump, not Never Trump. And it was published during the primary, if memory serves. That’s a big difference. 

    Yes, NR has some never-Trumpers, but it also publishes VDH and Conrad Black. Despite being an opinion journal, it publishes a wider range of opinion than most of the monolithic “neutral” news organizations. That’s a feature I value, and I disagree with a lot of the stuff NR publishes.

    I trust that all of the people charging Trump critics with disloyalty to the conservative cause were equally incensed by those “conservatives” who forced George W. Bush to withdraw his Harriett Miers nomination to the Supreme Court. Gotta stick together, y’know. 

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  22. Al Sparks Coolidge
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    On Jonah’s comment on phone calls being more efficient than email:

    I guess as a journalist who wants an answer to a question, picking up the phone and calling is more efficient.

    But not necessarily for the person receiving that phone call.  A phone call is an interruption.  If you take that phone call, you’re dropping everything to deal with it.

    Jonah mentions his dad, who apparently was emphatic about the efficiency of phone calls.  From what little I know of his dad, he was a high level executive in the newspaper syndicate business.

    He was an important guy, and people accepted his phone calls.  Of course he thought they were more efficient.  For him.  Not the other guy.

    And of course, Jonah is in management now at The Dispatch.

    I have a job where I’m lower level management, with people who work with or for me who do not need close supervision.  It’s a requirement of their jobs.  Often, calling them means interrupting them, and making them less efficient, not more.

    Show me someone who thinks phone calls are more efficient than FAX or email, and I’ll show you someone who makes more phone calls than receives them.

    • #142
  23. Charlotte Member
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    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    On Jonah’s comment on phone calls being more efficient than email:

    I guess as a journalist who wants an answer to a question, picking up the phone and calling is more efficient.

    But not necessarily for the person receiving that phone call. A phone call is an interruption. If you take that phone call, you’re dropping everything to deal with it.

    Jonah mentions his dad, who apparently was emphatic about the efficiency of phone calls. From what little I know of his dad, he was a high level executive in the newspaper syndicate business.

    He was an important guy, and people accepted his phone calls. Of course he thought they were more efficient. For him. Not the other guy.

    And of course, Jonah is in management now at The Dispatch.

    I have a job where I’m lower level management, with people who work with or for me who do not need close supervision. It’s a requirement of their jobs. Often, calling them means interrupting them, and making them less efficient, not more.

    Show me someone who thinks phone calls are more efficient than FAX or email, and I’ll show you someone who makes more phone calls than receives them.

    I agree with everything you say here except that you included fax in your final sentence. Organizations that still use fax machines or require that documents be faxed should be killed with fire. Faxing was amazing and cool in the early 90s, but there is no mode of communication more inconvenient in 2020 than faxing. Ugh.

    • #143
  24. Blue Yeti Admin
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):
    They ran a pair of editorials this year, one for and one against.

    I may be incorrect, but I don’t think they ran an actual endorsement of  him, though.

    • #144
  25. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):
    They ran a pair of editorials this year, one for and one against.

    I may be incorrect, but I don’t think they ran an actual endorsement of him, though.

    Andrew McCarthy wrote a “Yes” column regarding Trump.  Ramesh Ponnuru wrote a “No” column.  Charles C. W. Cooke wrote a “Maybe” column. 

    But the editors did not make an endorsement either way, if I remember correctly.

    • #145
  26. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):
    They ran a pair of editorials this year, one for and one against.

    I may be incorrect, but I don’t think they ran an actual endorsement of him, though.

    I’m not sure what the difference would be. But then, I don’t give much thought to endorsements. Says more about how the media outlet sees itself (We are Important and Influential! You must listen to us!) than about the candidates.

    • #146
  27. SParker Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Trump has converted much of the Republican party into a party of lunatic conspiracy theorists. After all this is over, it will be harder to communicate a message to the public that says, “The Left isn’t in touch with reality.”

    Trump is a kook and he is incentivizing kookiness within the GOP. If you aren’t willing to go full bore kook with Trump, you aren’t “on the team.”

    You do you realize the (D) Obama run FBI/DOJ/IC ran a disinformation campaign alleging Trump colluded with the Russians with exactly no predication other than the HRC campaign made it all up as a political dirty trick.

    Then they had a full blown FBI Crossfire Hurricane investigation, unpredicated FISA warrants issued, a serial leaking campaign, and lest we forget the two year long Mueller Special Counsel investigation, the never ending Flynn ridiculousness …. Then there were other fun (D) antics like the Brett Kavanaugh raped somebody or something in high school maybe or were there some dirty words in his yearbook, it’s all pretty murky given it all happened in high school some 40+ years ago, but let’s have a Senate hearing on it anyway.

    Those Trumpy (R)’s are sure a wacky bunch.

    Problem is that when you encounter two overdressed people on the street arguing loudly about whose shopping cart it is or isn’t and who is or isn’t the reincarnation of King David,  the natural tendency is to give them a wide berth and get on with your business. 

    • #147
  28. Al Sparks Coolidge
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    Charlotte (View Comment):
    agree with everything you say here except that you included fax in your final sentence. Organizations that still use fax machines or require that documents be faxed should be killed with fire. Faxing was amazing and cool in the early 90s, but there is no mode of communication more inconvenient in 2020 than faxing. Ugh.

    Since the guys were including FAX machines in their discussion, and Jonah’s father’s heyday was probably when FAX machines were still new technology, with common email usage yet to come, I included it in my post.

    Where I work, you can still send us a FAX.  And our printers include FAX capabilities.

    But it’s rare, nowadays.  Especially with the ability (our printers again) to scan a document image and send that image as an email attachment.

    And our FAX infrastructure includes the ability to send the FAX image directly to computers instead of to a printer.

    It’s an example of a legacy technology that takes forever to finally die.  We are evaluating whether we can finally end it in our organization.

    • #148
  29. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Trump’s votes arent the problem, explain the Biden voter to me. How is it possible that a democratic candidate can lose support in the Black community, the Hispanic community, Union workers. Yet miraculously Biden finds enough voter in 5 counties to win?

    Explain the Biden vote to me, it makes no sense.

    Not just “win” but from what I hear, he got 10 million more votes than Obama? BS.

    Exactly! The question isnt how Trump lost (if) but how Biden won with declining support from traditional democratic bases.

    I think Trump only won the 2016 election, because the Hillary Campaign believed the polling, and didnt pay off the “Get out the Vote” efforts. The Bidens took no chances, and enthusiastically stuffed every ballot box possible.

    • #149
  30. kedavis Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Trump’s votes arent the problem, explain the Biden voter to me. How is it possible that a democratic candidate can lose support in the Black community, the Hispanic community, Union workers. Yet miraculously Biden finds enough voter in 5 counties to win?

    Explain the Biden vote to me, it makes no sense.

    Not just “win” but from what I hear, he got 10 million more votes than Obama? BS.

    Exactly! The question isnt how Trump lost (if) but how Biden won with declining support from traditional democratic bases.

    I think Trump only won the 2016 election, because the Hillary Campaign believed the polling, and didnt pay off the “Get out the Vote” efforts. The Bidens took no chances, and enthusiastically stuffed every ballot box possible.

    Yes, I was saying that well before the election too.  They didn’t use their cheating machine much or maybe not at all in ’16, because they didn’t think they needed to.  And they were wrong.  But I expected them to have it fully oiled and supercharged for this time.

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