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1. Inactive
   Baker

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   6:36 PM EDT ⋅ May 9, 2021

    

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   Well, no one needed them to get on the train. They objected to them trying to de-rail it. We searched for alternate reasons. Many concluded they were never conservative anyway. It didn’t look good where they – or Kristol – were getting their money from.

   Personally I think they might just be petty moralistic prudes with ambiguous ideological underpinnings. Or possibly someone has dirt on them or someone in their respective families. Or possibly all of the above.

   Gingrich has never deviated from his core and I’ve followed him since 1992.

   In retrospect it’s understandable why certain Republicans and media companies sought to kneecap his Presidential runs.

   You think thats why his presidential runs never made it?

   Newt getting on board with a guy who is incredibly complimentary – perhaps outright sucking up – of the North Korean regime and highly critical of the South Koreans is very much against his core.

   The debt/deficit? Tariffs? (Not just the Chinese ones which is a whole other argument).

   Newt is for Newt and is willing to mold himself into whatever – or whomever.

   No, he understands the approach. Scolding and demeaning dictators is all just stupid virtue signaling that obviously has not worked – ever – unless you want go to war.
   The world is one giant mafia, and you have to give respect to the other families if you want to negotiate or even talk.
   But your deep state friends didn’t like that, so they portrayed it as Trump sucking up, which he never did. He just gave the guy basic respect. I think he handled him brilliantly.
   I suppose you see it differently.

   I have other things to do.

   Thats exactly how tin pot dictators see the world. Reagan and Solzhenitsyn would’ve begged to differ. 

2. Coolidge
   kedavis

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   6:51 PM EDT ⋅ May 9, 2021

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   Well, no one needed them to get on the train. They objected to them trying to de-rail it. We searched for alternate reasons. Many concluded they were never conservative anyway. It didn’t look good where they – or Kristol – were getting their money from.

   Personally I think they might just be petty moralistic prudes with ambiguous ideological underpinnings. Or possibly someone has dirt on them or someone in their respective families. Or possibly all of the above.

   Gingrich has never deviated from his core and I’ve followed him since 1992.

   In retrospect it’s understandable why certain Republicans and media companies sought to kneecap his Presidential runs.

   You think thats why his presidential runs never made it?

   Newt getting on board with a guy who is incredibly complimentary – perhaps outright sucking up – of the North Korean regime and highly critical of the South Koreans is very much against his core.

   The debt/deficit? Tariffs? (Not just the Chinese ones which is a whole other argument).

   Newt is for Newt and is willing to mold himself into whatever – or whomever.

   No, he understands the approach. Scolding and demeaning dictators is all just stupid virtue signaling that obviously has not worked – ever – unless you want go to war.
   The world is one giant mafia, and you have to give respect to the other families if you want to negotiate or even talk.
   But your deep state friends didn’t like that, so they portrayed it as Trump sucking up, which he never did. He just gave the guy basic respect. I think he handled him brilliantly.
   I suppose you see it differently.

   I have other things to do.

   Thats exactly how tin pot dictators see the world. Reagan and Solzhenitsyn would’ve begged to differ.

   I don’t recall Reagan ever ridiculing/belittling/etc any of the Soviet or Chinese leaders he dealt with.

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   Baker

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   6:58 PM EDT ⋅ May 9, 2021

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   Well, no one needed them to get on the train.

   No, he understands the approach. Scolding and demeaning dictators is all just stupid virtue signaling that obviously has not worked – ever – unless you want go to war.
   The world is one giant mafia, and you have to give respect to the other families if you want to negotiate or even talk.
   But your deep state friends didn’t like that, so they portrayed it as Trump sucking up, which he never did. He just gave the guy basic respect. I think he handled him brilliantly.
   I suppose you see it differently.

   I have other things to do.

   Thats exactly how tin pot dictators see the world. Reagan and Solzhenitsyn would’ve begged to differ.

   I don’t recall Reagan ever ridiculing/belittling/etc any of the Soviet or Chinese leaders he dealt with.

   I didn’t say demeaning was necessary. Previous presidents didn’t ridicule the Kims. They just didn’t completely ignore the evil of their regime and talk about the “beautiful love letters” they received or offer them rides on Air Force One. 

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   Baker

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   7:24 PM EDT ⋅ May 9, 2021

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   This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

    

   In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

   A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

   My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

   Interesting comments from Newt:

   Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay.

   A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

   When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

   If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

   Here’s a fun trip down Newt memory lane, if only the progs could have known eventually he’d be on their side. It’s funny to read this from their pov 10 years ago. Boy how things change. 

   https://archive.thinkprogress.org/gingrich-nafta-worked-because-it-created-jobs-in-mexico-99747e6c5c0/

5. Coolidge
   Taras

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   9:52 PM EDT ⋅ May 9, 2021

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   Well, no one needed them to get on the train.

   No, he understands the approach. Scolding and demeaning dictators is all just stupid virtue signaling that obviously has not worked – ever – unless you want go to war.
   The world is one giant mafia, and you have to give respect to the other families if you want to negotiate or even talk.
   But your deep state friends didn’t like that, so they portrayed it as Trump sucking up, which he never did. He just gave the guy basic respect. I think he handled him brilliantly.
   I suppose you see it differently.

   I have other things to do.

   Thats exactly how tin pot dictators see the world. Reagan and Solzhenitsyn would’ve begged to differ.

   I don’t recall Reagan ever ridiculing/belittling/etc any of the Soviet or Chinese leaders he dealt with.

   I didn’t say demeaning was necessary. Previous presidents didn’t ridicule the Kims. They just didn’t completely ignore the evil of their regime and talk about the “beautiful love letters” they received or offer them rides on Air Force One.

   It took me a long time to understand what Donald Trump was doing with Putin and other dictators.

   A simpleton looks at a farmer offering a carrot at the front end of a donkey, and a stick applied to the back end, and wonders at the inconsistency of the farmer’s behavior.  Of course the point of the exercise is neither to be nice to the donkey, nor mean to it. It’s to get it to move in the desired direction by means of, yes, “carrot and stick”.

   So Trump would tell Vlad what a great guy he is. Even as he did what Obama absolutely refused to do for eight years:  let Ukraine buy advanced antitank missiles, which forced the Russians to pull back their tanks the moment the missiles arrived in Ukraine.

6. Coolidge
   kedavis

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   10:20 PM EDT ⋅ May 9, 2021

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   Well, no one needed them to get on the train.

   No, he understands the approach. Scolding and demeaning dictators is all just stupid virtue signaling that obviously has not worked – ever – unless you want go to war.
   The world is one giant mafia, and you have to give respect to the other families if you want to negotiate or even talk.
   But your deep state friends didn’t like that, so they portrayed it as Trump sucking up, which he never did. He just gave the guy basic respect. I think he handled him brilliantly.
   I suppose you see it differently.

   I have other things to do.

   Thats exactly how tin pot dictators see the world. Reagan and Solzhenitsyn would’ve begged to differ.

   I don’t recall Reagan ever ridiculing/belittling/etc any of the Soviet or Chinese leaders he dealt with.

   I didn’t say demeaning was necessary. Previous presidents didn’t ridicule the Kims. They just didn’t completely ignore the evil of their regime and talk about the “beautiful love letters” they received or offer them rides on Air Force One.

   It took me a long time to understand what Donald Trump was doing with Putin and other dictators.

   A simpleton looks at a farmer offering a carrot at the front end of a donkey, and a stick applied to the back end, and wonders at the inconsistency of the farmer’s behavior. Of course the point of the exercise is neither to be nice to the donkey, nor mean to it. It’s to get it to move in the desired direction by means of, yes, “carrot and stick”.

   So Trump would tell Vlad what a great guy he is. Even as he did what Obama absolutely refused to do for eight years: let Ukraine buy advanced antitank missiles, which forced the Russians to pull back their tanks the moment the missiles arrived in Ukraine.

   Good example.

7. 🚫 Banned
   Franco

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   6:38 AM EDT ⋅ May 10, 2021

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   Well, no one needed them to get on the train.

   No, he understands the approach. Scolding and demeaning dictators is all just stupid virtue signaling that obviously has not worked – ever – unless you want go to war.
   The world is one giant mafia, and you have to give respect to the other families if you want to negotiate or even talk.
   But your deep state friends didn’t like that, so they portrayed it as Trump sucking up, which he never did. He just gave the guy basic respect. I think he handled him brilliantly.
   I suppose you see it differently.

   I have other things to do.

   Thats exactly how tin pot dictators see the world. Reagan and Solzhenitsyn would’ve begged to differ.

   I don’t recall Reagan ever ridiculing/belittling/etc any of the Soviet or Chinese leaders he dealt with.

   I didn’t say demeaning was necessary. Previous presidents didn’t ridicule the Kims. They just didn’t completely ignore the evil of their regime and talk about the “beautiful love letters” they received or offer them rides on Air Force One.

   Oh, I forgot what a ride on Air Force One does to a dictators world status! Some perks should only be reserved for the likes of Nancy Pelosi. 

   I think calling people and their regimes “evil” continually qualifies as off-putting. 

   I also think everyone knows how awful North Korea is by now. If they don’t they are already our enemy and unpersuadable (China?). 

   They didn’t know, or there was a dispute, about the Soviet Union however, so Reagan was right to be vocal to gather consensus.

   Eight Years of Bush and eight years of Obama got us nowhere with the Norks, and people like you think we should just continue isolating and giving the Norks no way out as a valid approach.  

   People don’t seem to understand the position many dictators find themselves in. Kim Jong Un inherited a nasty totalitarian regime. What are his options? He has to make his generals happy and all the people who are where they are based on utter political depravity. Trump was trying to provide a way out. Moreover, South Korea and Japan, the two most affected countries were BOTH fully on board with the initiatives. Who are you to supersede them?

   And yes that’s exactly how tin-pot dictators see the world. Tell me it’s not the case. Go ahead, I’m all ears.

    

8. Member
   EDISONPARKS

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   6:03 AM EDT ⋅ May 11, 2021

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   Sounds like she’s trying out for the McCain slot.

   Or, now allow me a little deviation here, maybe she believes the Republican Party has better future without being branded as Trump’s party.

   Completely absent in Mr. York’s… condescending analysis is the communication between others in “leadership” and Trump’s agents or even the great man himself? I guess this whole affair is to be memoried as 100% Cheney bad. All the subtleties and artistry we’ve come to expect from Republicans, Crayola and coloring books.

   Liz Cheney is a “leader” elected by the (R) as Conference Chairperson.

   Liz Cheney, whether you agree with her or not, has caused dissension in the (R) Conference.

   Leaders exist to foster comity and consensus.

   Elected leader Liz Cheney is not leading and now the vast majority members of the (R) Conference want someone else to lead them.

   A perfectly logical turn of events.