Talk to House Republicans, and they’ll tell you this about Liz Cheney: Her problem is not that she voted to impeach President Donald Trump. Her problem is that she can’t move on from voting to impeach Trump. At a time when House GOP leaders feel it is critical to oppose the Biden-Pelosi agenda — trillions in unnecessary new spending — Cheney seems determined to replay the events of January and feed the media’s “GOP civil war” narrative. And now House Republicans have had enough. They point to other GOP lawmakers who voted to impeach and have faced no repercussions from their party’s leadership. Cheney has created her own problems for herself, they say. And she might not be long for the leadership team.

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  1. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    I’m sure there are still ways to grease the skids by donating leftover money to other campaigns, etc.

    That is correct.

    I wonder what percentage of the sales of books written by politicians are bulk buys by other campaigns. That’s a legal way of funneling money to each other. Or they can hire relatives to do campaign or staff non work.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    I’m sure there are still ways to grease the skids by donating leftover money to other campaigns, etc.

    That is correct.

    I wonder what percentage of the sales of books written by politicians are bulk buys by other campaigns. That’s a legal way of funneling money to each other. Or they can hire relatives to do campaign or staff non work.

    Well the book thing was a big scam in the past.  That might have been “regulated” too.  But I expect they can hire each others’ friends and relatives, and stuff.

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  3. Baker Inactive
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    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

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  4. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    Trump characterized the deficiencies in the election wrong. It comes down to a lack of ballot controls and Zuckerberg’s operation renting the government and skewing operations towards the Democrat party in the critical states.  I’ve gone on and on about it. 

    Alexander Marlow’s new book is going to go into detail about it.

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  6. Charlotte Member
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    This is a really interesting thread. The only thing that could improve it is if Byron himself stopped by…but I just tried @-ing him and apparently he’s not officially a Ricochet member. 😭

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  7. Django Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    I don’t know what your view is, but I’m willing to wait and see what those rallies are about. I suspect, and hope, that they will be about kicking ass in 2022.

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  8. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Baker (View Comment):
    attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence

    What evidence would that be? I have yet to see them provide any evidence that he won other than numbers on a screen and emphatic assurances from green-haired twentysomething fact-checkers using circular reasoning: “Officials say he won fairly, so he won fairly.”

    They’ve flat out refused to back up their claims by, I don’t know, showing us the ballots and letting us examine the machines maybe? Until they do that, they have no credibility.

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  9. Django Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence

    What evidence would that be? I have yet to see them provide any evidence that he won other than numbers on a screen and emphatic assurances from green-haired twentysomething fact-checkers using circular reasoning: “Officials say he won fairly, so he won fairly.”

    They’ve flat out refused to back up their claims by, I don’t know, showing us the ballots and letting us examine the machines maybe? Until they do that, they have no credibility.

    I like this headline: 

    AZ Sen. Kelly Townsend: Everyone Knows You Don’t Try to Stop an Audit with the Fervency We’ve Seen if There’s Nothing to Hide (VIDEO)

    Trump didn’t lose fairly, but he lost, and now question is what to do about it. The answer in my mind is: Don’t get mad; get even. 

    Kicking Crazy Liz out of positions of power within the party is a start. Helping her voters kick her out of office is the end-game in dealing with her. Then, onward to the rest. NTs wanted the fight we’re having now. They got it. 

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  10. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    This is a really interesting thread. The only thing that could improve it is if Byron himself stopped by…but I just tried @ -ing him and apparently he’s not officially a Ricochet member. 😭

    Maybe he’s busy flying to Wyoming to discuss matters with ordinary Americans and get a clearer picture of what’s happening. It’s what great investigative journalists do. 

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  11. Django Member
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt: 

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay. And, you can also buy a number of states. So when they tell you they were controlling the ballots, it’s just not true. This was a very open system. It was a system where people could cheat, and did. And without getting into an argument about how big the cheating was, it was large enough that every American should expect that they have the right to vote, that they have the right to have their vote counted, they have a right to have their vote held legally and accurately, and they shouldn’t have their vote canceled by someone who’s cheating. And that’s exactly what’s been going on… In every one of the states that was very close that Trump lost you had those kind of shenanigans and you had state law violated in every single one of those states. In my mind there was no question that those states were in fact stolen. That doesn’t make the national media happy but I think as a historian people will find it’s absolutely true.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

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  12. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay. And, you can also buy a number of states. So when they tell you they were controlling the ballots, it’s just not true. This was a very open system. It was a system where people could cheat, and did. And without getting into an argument about how big the cheating was, it was large enough that every American should expect that they have the right to vote, that they have the right to have their vote counted, they have a right to have their vote held legally and accurately, and they shouldn’t have their vote canceled by someone who’s cheating. And that’s exactly what’s been going on… In every one of the states that was very close that Trump lost you had those kind of shenanigans and you had state law violated in every single one of those states. In my mind there was no question that those states were in fact stolen. That doesn’t make the national media happy but I think as a historian people will find it’s absolutely true.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening. 

    • #72
  13. Django Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay. And, you can also buy a number of states. So when they tell you they were controlling the ballots, it’s just not true. This was a very open system. It was a system where people could cheat, and did. And without getting into an argument about how big the cheating was, it was large enough that every American should expect that they have the right to vote, that they have the right to have their vote counted, they have a right to have their vote held legally and accurately, and they shouldn’t have their vote canceled by someone who’s cheating. And that’s exactly what’s been going on… In every one of the states that was very close that Trump lost you had those kind of shenanigans and you had state law violated in every single one of those states. In my mind there was no question that those states were in fact stolen. That doesn’t make the national media happy but I think as a historian people will find it’s absolutely true.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    Exactly!  

    Jim Hoft made the same point: 

    The tide truly is turning when Newt can go on FOX News and not be lectured for making such a bold and honest statement.
    Of course, Maria Bartiromo is not your average FOX News host.

    • #73
  14. RufusRJones Member
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    Newt Gingrich’s podcast is great. 

    • #74
  15. Baker Inactive
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay. 

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

    • #75
  16. Taras Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

    It’s a gutsy move:  it puts him on a blacklist, as far as both social media and the mainstream media are concerned.  Remember, it’s OK to question any election except 2020.

    This will make it harder for him to promote his books, so it will probably cost him a lot of money.

    • #76
  17. Baker Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

    It’s a gutsy move: it puts him on a blacklist, as far as both social media and the mainstream media are concerned. Remember, it’s OK to question any election except 2020.

    This will make it harder for him to promote his books, so it will probably cost him a lot of money.

    Or it will help sell millions of books to Trump fanatics. The rest of us are already over Newt. This is his best play for the money. Tucker will have him on to promote it, OAN, etc.

    • #77
  18. Percival Thatcher
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    Baker (View Comment):

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    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

    It’s a gutsy move: it puts him on a blacklist, as far as both social media and the mainstream media are concerned. Remember, it’s OK to question any election except 2020.

    This will make it harder for him to promote his books, so it will probably cost him a lot of money.

    Or it will help sell millions of books to Trump fanatics. The rest of us are already over Newt. This is his best play for the money. Tucker will have him on to promote it, OAN, etc.

    Access to TV coverage isn’t exactly the lollipop it used to be.

    • #78
  19. Franco Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

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    Baker (View Comment):

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    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

    It’s a gutsy move: it puts him on a blacklist, as far as both social media and the mainstream media are concerned. Remember, it’s OK to question any election except 2020.

    This will make it harder for him to promote his books, so it will probably cost him a lot of money.

    Or it will help sell millions of books to Trump fanatics. The rest of us are already over Newt. This is his best play for the money. Tucker will have him on to promote it, OAN, etc.

    Access to TV coverage isn’t exactly the lollipop it used to be.

    I’ve been out of the loop for a bit. Who is this Baker and why are these  simplistic and uninformed comments worthy of a response?

    • #79
  20. Baker Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):

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    Django (View Comment):

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    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: .

    Or it will help sell millions of books to Trump fanatics. The rest of us are already over Newt. This is his best play for the money. Tucker will have him on to promote it, OAN, etc.

    Access to TV coverage isn’t exactly the lollipop it used to be.

    I’ve been out of the loop for a bit. Who is this Baker and why are these simplistic and uninformed comments worthy of a response?

    I’m here to disrupt rampant confirmation bias that I got tired of ignoring after January 6. 

    • #80
  21. Django Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

    It’s a gutsy move: it puts him on a blacklist, as far as both social media and the mainstream media are concerned. Remember, it’s OK to question any election except 2020.

    This will make it harder for him to promote his books, so it will probably cost him a lot of money.

    Or it will help sell millions of books to Trump fanatics. The rest of us are already over Newt. This is his best play for the money. Tucker will have him on to promote it, OAN, etc.

    Access to TV coverage isn’t exactly the lollipop it used to be.

    I’ve been out of the loop for a bit. Who is this Baker and why are these simplistic and uninformed comments worthy of a response?

    Franco, I see that your time away did not change you in the least. And I think that is a good thing.

    • #81
  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs.

     

    In light of the Cheney talk about just needing to move on…I imagine these rallies will just be looking ahead and not focused on his loss last year? No?

    A sad old man who can’t admit he lost and attendees who refuse to believe all other evidence is not going to be a good look.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP investigating fraud in 2006. She thinks there was massive fraud and she’s seen it up close and personal. What are your credentials.

    Interesting comments from Newt:

    Newt Gingrich: You can actually buy an official Georgia presidential ballot on eBay.

    A link to his interview here: Newt Gingrich: In My Mind “There Was No Question” all of the Close Battleground States Were Stolen in 2020 Election (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

    When Newt Gingrich feels comfortable enough to go on record as Red Pilled then you know the kinks in their armor are widening.

    If there’s a buck in it, Newt will be comfortable with anything.

    It’s a gutsy move: it puts him on a blacklist, as far as both social media and the mainstream media are concerned. Remember, it’s OK to question any election except 2020.

    This will make it harder for him to promote his books, so it will probably cost him a lot of money.

    Or it will help sell millions of books to Trump fanatics. The rest of us are already over Newt. This is his best play for the money. Tucker will have him on to promote it, OAN, etc.

    Access to TV coverage isn’t exactly the lollipop it used to be.

    I’ve been out of the loop for a bit. Who is this Baker and why are these simplistic and uninformed comments worthy of a response?

    Might be worth checking on the new post about why Ricochet needs an ignore feature.

    • #82
  23. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Of course, Maria Bartiromo is not your average FOX

    Exactly.

     

    • #83
  24. Franco Member
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    Baker (View Comment):
    I’m here to disrupt rampant confirmation bias that I got tired of ignoring after January 6. 

    Oh, what was that? I don’t feel disrupted in the least. So Gingrich is just in it all for the money…

    I’ve only heard things like that from the most uneducated socialists when they are unable to make an argument on substance.

    • #84
  25. Baker Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    I’m here to disrupt rampant confirmation bias that I got tired of ignoring after January 6.

    Oh, what was that? I don’t feel disrupted in the least. So Gingrich is just in it all for the money…

    I’ve only heard things like that from the most uneducated socialists when they are unable to make an argument on substance.

    Isn’t that exactly what Trump fans said about folks like Goldberg, Kristol etc? That they only refused to get on the Trump train because of the money? 

    • #85
  26. Franco Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    I’m here to disrupt rampant confirmation bias that I got tired of ignoring after January 6.

    Oh, what was that? I don’t feel disrupted in the least. So Gingrich is just in it all for the money…

    I’ve only heard things like that from the most uneducated socialists when they are unable to make an argument on substance.

    Isn’t that exactly what Trump fans said about folks like Goldberg, Kristol etc? That they only refused to get on the Trump train because of the money?

    Well, no one needed them to get on the train. They objected to them trying to de-rail it. We searched for alternate reasons. Many concluded they were never conservative anyway. It didn’t look good where they – or Kristol – were getting their money from. 

    Personally I think they might just be petty moralistic prudes with ambiguous ideological underpinnings. Or possibly someone has dirt on them or someone in their respective families. Or possibly all of the above.

    Gingrich has never deviated from his core and I’ve followed him since 1992.

    In retrospect it’s understandable why certain Republicans and media companies sought to kneecap his Presidential runs.

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  27. Baker Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    Franco

    Well, no one needed them to get on the train. They objected to them trying to de-rail it. We searched for alternate reasons. Many concluded they were never conservative anyway. It didn’t look good where they – or Kristol – were getting their money from.

    Personally I think they might just be petty moralistic prudes with ambiguous ideological underpinnings. Or possibly someone has dirt on them or someone in their respective families. Or possibly all of the above.

    Gingrich has never deviated from his core and I’ve followed him since 1992.

    In retrospect it’s understandable why certain Republicans and media companies sought to kneecap his Presidential runs.

    You think thats why his presidential runs never made it? 

    Newt getting on board with a guy who is incredibly complimentary – perhaps outright sucking up – of the North Korean regime and highly critical of the South Koreans is very much against his core. 

    The debt/deficit? Tariffs? (Not just the Chinese ones which is a whole other argument). 

    Newt is for Newt and is willing to mold himself into whatever – or whomever.

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    I’m here to disrupt rampant confirmation bias that I got tired of ignoring after January 6.

    Oh, what was that? I don’t feel disrupted in the least. So Gingrich is just in it all for the money…

    I’ve only heard things like that from the most uneducated socialists when they are unable to make an argument on substance.

    Isn’t that exactly what Trump fans said about folks like Goldberg, Kristol etc? That they only refused to get on the Trump train because of the money?

    No, we said they are cowards and D.C. sycophants and fear Trump because he’s icky…and effective. 

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  29. Django Member
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    I’m here to disrupt rampant confirmation bias that I got tired of ignoring after January 6.

    Oh, what was that? I don’t feel disrupted in the least. So Gingrich is just in it all for the money…

    I’ve only heard things like that from the most uneducated socialists when they are unable to make an argument on substance.

    Isn’t that exactly what Trump fans said about folks like Goldberg, Kristol etc? That they only refused to get on the Trump train because of the money?

    No, we said they are cowards and D.C. sycophants and fear Trump because he’s icky…and effective.

    I thought the Lincoln Project had been proven to be grifters and the rest just seemed embarrassed and butthurt about being so wrong regarding Trump’s chances in 2016. And of course, there’s the petty jealousy aspect.

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    Well, no one needed them to get on the train. They objected to them trying to de-rail it. We searched for alternate reasons. Many concluded they were never conservative anyway. It didn’t look good where they – or Kristol – were getting their money from.

    Personally I think they might just be petty moralistic prudes with ambiguous ideological underpinnings. Or possibly someone has dirt on them or someone in their respective families. Or possibly all of the above.

    Gingrich has never deviated from his core and I’ve followed him since 1992.

    In retrospect it’s understandable why certain Republicans and media companies sought to kneecap his Presidential runs.

    You think thats why his presidential runs never made it?

    Newt getting on board with a guy who is incredibly complimentary – perhaps outright sucking up – of the North Korean regime and highly critical of the South Koreans is very much against his core.

    The debt/deficit? Tariffs? (Not just the Chinese ones which is a whole other argument).

    Newt is for Newt and is willing to mold himself into whatever – or whomever.

    No, he understands the approach. Scolding and demeaning dictators is all just stupid virtue signaling that obviously has not worked – ever – unless you want go to war. 
    The world is one giant mafia, and you have to give respect to the other families if you want to negotiate or even talk. 
    But your deep state friends didn’t like that, so they portrayed it as Trump sucking up, which he never did. He just gave the guy basic respect. I think he handled him brilliantly. 
    I suppose you see it differently.

    I have other things to do.

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