Talk to House Republicans, and they’ll tell you this about Liz Cheney: Her problem is not that she voted to impeach President Donald Trump. Her problem is that she can’t move on from voting to impeach Trump. At a time when House GOP leaders feel it is critical to oppose the Biden-Pelosi agenda — trillions in unnecessary new spending — Cheney seems determined to replay the events of January and feed the media’s “GOP civil war” narrative. And now House Republicans have had enough. They point to other GOP lawmakers who voted to impeach and have faced no repercussions from their party’s leadership. Cheney has created her own problems for herself, they say. And she might not be long for the leadership team.

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  1. Django Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Byron misses it once again because he’s only ever looking at issues from a DC perspective. The real reason Cheney is in deep kimchee is because Trump supporters are itching for a fight against everyone who betrayed him in January, and I’m sorry to say, that includes Byron York to a degree. She’s just the first and most vocal of the swamp creatures who will feel the sting. There will be others, all those who refuse to listen to We The People.

    For years we heard NTs, and lately NATs, saying they wanted to drive Trump and his supporters out of the party. They got the fight they wanted, and a few of them are starting to whine about it. First rule of fights: A fight isn’t over because you are tired of fighting and getting your behind kicked. Your opponent has a lot of say about when a fight is over. 

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  2. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Byron misses it once again because he’s only ever looking at issues from a DC perspective. The real reason Cheney is in deep kimchee is because Trump supporters are itching for a fight against everyone who betrayed him in January, and I’m sorry to say, that includes Byron York to a degree. She’s just the first and most vocal of the swamp creatures who will feel the sting. There will be others, all those who refuse to listen to We The People.

    I hope they/we have the memory to last that long, and the gumption to follow through when election day comes.

    Remember, if Liz Cheney had simply refrained from constantly reopening the wounds from January, she would be sitting pretty today.

    Add a few tactful non-apology apologies and she could have made the threat of being primaried go away.

    This is the same thing York has done. You underestimate the electorate and its hatred for these people. She, Mitt Romney, and Lisa Murkowski are done for the same reason John Boehner was, because ordinary people in their districts hate them.

    PuS.: Byron York is worth his weight in gold. He may be the best investigative reporter we have.

    Disagree emphatically. Sharryl Attkisson and Michael Yon are far and away doing more actual investigative journalism than York or any other DC pundits.

    • #32
  3. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    York is very good at political analysis and explaining it. He obviously has a ton of sources.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    plainmg it. 

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  4. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    York is very good at political analysis and explaining it. He obviously has a ton of sources.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    plainmg it.

    He’s been great at reading the political tea leaves for years but what so many of these folks fail to grasp is that everything changed last year. They’re operating under the assumption that the political world will shake out into predictable patterns of yesteryear. It won’t happen, the damage done has been so great that millions of people now laugh at the idea that the FBI is anything other than an anti-Trump Gestapo. There are still military troops in D.C. and both liberals and conservatives are seriously talking about alliances to fight the political class/mandates/voter fraud/gun confiscation etc…

    This is not going away. 

    • #34
  5. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    York is very good at political analysis and explaining it. He obviously has a ton of sources.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    plainmg it.

    He’s been great at reading the political tea leaves for years but what so many of these folks fail to grasp is that everything changed last year. They’re operating under the assumption that the political world will shake out into predictable patterns of yesteryear. It won’t happen, the damage done has been so great that millions of people now laugh at the idea that the FBI is anything other than an anti-Trump Gestapo. There are still military troops in D.C. and both liberals and conservatives are seriously talking about alliances to fight the political class/mandates/voter fraud/gun confiscation etc…

    This is not going away.

    What it seems to amount to is that Byron is still valuable for the perspective and information he provides, but that perspective is increasingly narrow and limited.

    • #35
  6. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    I agree with #34, but I don’t see what the risk is in paying attention to Byron York. 

    • #36
  7. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I agree with #34, but I don’t see what the risk is in paying attention to Byron York.

    Neither do I, which is why I still listen to what he has to say but merely as a datapoint. Maybe he’s spot on regarding many things but he’s wrong about Biden, and wrong about the fraud evidence, and he’s wrong about Cheney. 

    • #37
  8. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I agree with #34, but I don’t see what the risk is in paying attention to Byron York.

    As I said earlier, how did he fail to see – or to mention- the connection Cheney has to CIA, or the vengeance  the Bush/Cheney cabal has for all things Trumplike?

    I understand, I guess. It’s hard to go up against those people. As Vince comments above, the landscape has changed dramatically and he’s still talking like it hasn’t, and these factors are  pivotal to any analysis.

    • #38
  9. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Franco (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I agree with #34, but I don’t see what the risk is in paying attention to Byron York.

    As I said earlier, how did he fail to see – or to mention- the connection Cheney has to CIA, or the vengeance the Bush/Cheney cabal has for all things Trumplike?

    I understand, I guess. It’s hard to go up against those people. As Vince comments above, the landscape has changed dramatically and he’s still talking like it hasn’t, and these factors are pivotal to any analysis.

    ok fair enough. I’m not as deep into it. 

    • #39
  10. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Franco (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I agree with #34, but I don’t see what the risk is in paying attention to Byron York.

    As I said earlier, how did he fail to see – or to mention- the connection Cheney has to CIA, or the vengeance the Bush/Cheney cabal has for all things Trumplike?

    I understand, I guess. It’s hard to go up against those people. As Vince comments above, the landscape has changed dramatically and he’s still talking like it hasn’t, and these factors are pivotal to any analysis.

    If he gets too honest and analyzes too much, his sources may stop talking to him.  For their own protection, if not his.

    • #40
  11. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Byron misses it once again because he’s only ever looking at issues from a DC perspective. The real reason Cheney is in deep kimchee is because Trump supporters are itching for a fight against everyone who betrayed him in January, and I’m sorry to say, that includes Byron York to a degree. She’s just the first and most vocal of the swamp creatures who will feel the sting. There will be others, all those who refuse to listen to We The People.

    I hope they/we have the memory to last that long, and the gumption to follow through when election day comes.

    Remember, if Liz Cheney had simply refrained from constantly reopening the wounds from January, she would be sitting pretty today.

    Add a few tactful non-apology apologies and she could have made the threat of being primaried go away.

    This is the same thing York has done. You underestimate the electorate and its hatred for these people. She, Mitt Romney, and Lisa Murkowski are done for the same reason John Boehner was, because ordinary people in their districts hate them.

    PuS.: Byron York is worth his weight in gold. He may be the best investigative reporter we have.

    Disagree emphatically. Sharryl Attkisson and Michael Yon are far and away doing more actual investigative journalism than York or any other DC pundits.

    You are guilty of something I have often seen in such arguments, over the decades:  confusing predictions with facts; a.k.a., counting your chickens.

    Lisa Murkowski is “done”?  The way she was “done” in 2010, when she lost the Republican Senate primary?  Six years later she won it in a landslide.  As for 2022, current polls suggest she would lose a Republican primary — if they had one.  Her political allies got Alaska to switch to a jungle primary with preference ranking, which she is favored to win.

    It would be nice if she and Romney were replaced with “elephants” instead of RINOs, but don’t hold your breath.

    Attkisson is terrific but, like Glenn Greenwald, she’s not one of us.  I’ve heard great things about Yon, but I haven’t seen his work anywhere.

    • #41
  12. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Taras (View Comment):
    Yon

    I’m pretty sure this is the guy that is giving reports to John Batchelor about illegal immigrants coming up from South America through Panama. Very interesting. 

    Subscribe to the John Batchelor podcast. There is absolutely no downside, because he breaks down each topic to an individual file. 

    • #42
  13. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Yon

    I’m pretty sure this is the guy that is giving reports to John Batchelor about illegal immigrants coming up from South America through Panama. Very interesting.

    Subscribe to the John Batchelor podcast. There is absolutely no downside, because he breaks down each topic to an individual file.

    I used to listen to his late night radio show when I was doing a lot of night driving.  More recently, my impression is that he verges on a Never Trumper.

    • #43
  14. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Taras (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Yon

    I’m pretty sure this is the guy that is giving reports to John Batchelor about illegal immigrants coming up from South America through Panama. Very interesting.

    Subscribe to the John Batchelor podcast. There is absolutely no downside, because he breaks down each topic to an individual file.

    I used to listen to his late night radio show when I was doing a lot of night driving. More recently, my impression is that he verges on a Never Trumper.

    I have absolutely no idea where you are getting this. 

    • #44
  15. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    Taras (View Comment):
    Attkisson is terrific but, like Glenn Greenwald, she’s not one of us.  I’ve heard great things about Yon, but I haven’t seen his work anywhere.

    I don’t need my journalists to be aligned with me politically. And I don’t know who “us” is anymore anyway. Attkinson doesn’t seem too far away from me, although Greenwald is. I respect his reporting though. He’s better than most. 
    He can at least report negative things about the CIA.

    As to Yon, you won’t find him or other good journalists in the mainstream. Funny that…

    • #45
  16. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Taras (View Comment):

    Lisa Murkowski is “done”?  The way she was “done” in 2010, when she lost the Republican Senate primary?  Six years later she won it in a landslide.  As for 2022, current polls suggest she would lose a Republican primary — if they had one.  Her political allies got Alaska to switch to a jungle primary with preference ranking, which she is favored to win.

    Yes she’s done and the national GOP knows it which is why she’s openly talking about not running again. They’re terrified of her Trump supporter, America first, anti-establishment challenger and want to run a hand picked RINO against her.

    As for prop #2 (the ranked choice law), it’s the reason why AK took so long to certify its election. Just like the presidential results in the PA, MI etc…it was losing by a wide margin on election night, but they waited for days counting mail-in ballots with questionable voter rolls until magically it just barely passed. The division of election database was actually hacked and they even apologized for the data breech. Many of us up here are demanding a forensic audit as well but our governor is a coward. Stay tuned on that one.

    If Murkowski even runs and they try to put her back in there will be a literal revolt up here. Most of us don’t even care for Sullivan after how he shamed himself during most of this.

    • #46
  17. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    They’re terrified of her Trump supporter,

    She is really sharp. Really good on the radio. I think she went to Harvard.

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    As for prop #2 (the ranked choice law), it’s the reason why AK took so long to certify its election.

    This has gotten more popular in Minnesota because it favors progressives and cookie candidates, but Duluth got rid of it because the results were so embarrassing. They knew it was a scam. Traditional Democrats in Duluth just got rid of it.

    • #47
  18. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    @CliffordBrown

    Baker (View Comment):

    “The former president is undeterred. He insisted in a statement this week that the idea that he lost the 2020 election is ”THE BIG LIE!” Rep. Liz Cheney famously responded in a tweet: That the election was stolen is actually the big lie.”

    Solid piece from Ms. Noonan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/liz-cheney-confronts-a-house-of-cowards-11620342680

     

    Sorry, citing the crazy old Manhattan aunt hurts your case rather than helping it. She was for George W. Bush before she was against him, for Obama before she was against him, now for Kamala Harris . . . . Her abysmal track record over the past 20 years suggests opportunism, not sincere, let alone considered, judgment. Scott Johnson at Power Line Blog provided an excellent summary of this in “High Noonan.”

    • #48
  19. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Yon

    I’m pretty sure this is the guy that is giving reports to John Batchelor about illegal immigrants coming up from South America through Panama. Very interesting.

    Subscribe to the John Batchelor podcast. There is absolutely no downside, because he breaks down each topic to an individual file.

    Hey, he had me on the program. No one’s perfect.  https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/06-dec-2017/broadcast-3030-hotel-mars-richard-easton

    • #49
  20. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Sounds like she’s trying out for the McCain slot.

    Over Mitt Romney’s dead body.

    So, so tempting. . .

    Bring out yer dead!

    • #50
  21. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    @CliffordBrown

    Taras (View Comment):
    Lisa Murkowski is “done”?  The way she was “done” in 2010, when she lost the Republican Senate primary?  Six years later she won it in a landslide.  As for 2022, current polls suggest she would lose a Republican primary — if they had one.  Her political allies got Alaska to switch to a jungle primary with preference ranking, which she is favored to win.

    Yes, she and her allies conned voters into rigging the Alaska voting system to keep her in the seat her daddy gave her for six more years. By the time Alaska voters realize their mistake, it will be too late. She and her cronies will have locked down that valuable commodity, a U.S. Senate seat, for 6 long years.

    It is not impossible to beat this stacked system, but requires immediate gaming of voting strategies and then relentless communication by every medium of the precise way voters must mark their ballots to defeat Murkowski’s scheme.

    • #51
  22. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Lisa Murkowski is “done”? The way she was “done” in 2010, when she lost the Republican Senate primary? Six years later she won it in a landslide. As for 2022, current polls suggest she would lose a Republican primary — if they had one. Her political allies got Alaska to switch to a jungle primary with preference ranking, which she is favored to win.

    Yes, she and her allies conned voters into rigging the Alaska voting system to keep her in the seat her daddy gave her for six more years. By the time Alaska voters realize their mistake, it will be too late. She and her cronies will have locked down that valuable commodity, a U.S. Senate seat, for 6 long years.

    It is not impossible to beat this stacked system, but requires immediate gaming of voting strategies and then relentless communication by every medium of the precise way voters must mark their ballots to defeat Murkowski’s scheme.

    We didn’t choose it, they rammed it in. See comment #46.

    • #52
  23. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    This should trigger the resident NTs and NATs. 

    • #53
  24. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Yon

    I’m pretty sure this is the guy that is giving reports to John Batchelor about illegal immigrants coming up from South America through Panama. Very interesting.

    Subscribe to the John Batchelor podcast. There is absolutely no downside, because he breaks down each topic to an individual file.

    I used to listen to his late night radio show when I was doing a lot of night driving. More recently, my impression is that he verges on a Never Trumper.

    I have absolutely no idea where you are getting this.

    The list of frequent guests (on Wikipedia) seems to bely any anti-Trump bias.  The episode I heard must have been a fluke.  I will bow to your superior knowledge.

    • #54
  25. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Lisa Murkowski is “done”? The way she was “done” in 2010, when she lost the Republican Senate primary? Six years later she won it in a landslide. As for 2022, current polls suggest she would lose a Republican primary — if they had one. Her political allies got Alaska to switch to a jungle primary with preference ranking, which she is favored to win.

    Yes, she and her allies conned voters into rigging the Alaska voting system to keep her in the seat her daddy gave her for six more years. By the time Alaska voters realize their mistake, it will be too late. She and her cronies will have locked down that valuable commodity, a U.S. Senate seat, for 6 long years.

    It is not impossible to beat this stacked system, but requires immediate gaming of voting strategies and then relentless communication by every medium of the precise way voters must mark their ballots to defeat Murkowski’s scheme.

    The upshot is, Lisa Murkowski is not in trouble.

    • #55
  26. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Lisa Murkowski is “done”? The way she was “done” in 2010, when she lost the Republican Senate primary? Six years later she won it in a landslide. As for 2022, current polls suggest she would lose a Republican primary — if they had one. Her political allies got Alaska to switch to a jungle primary with preference ranking, which she is favored to win.

    Yes, she and her allies conned voters into rigging the Alaska voting system to keep her in the seat her daddy gave her for six more years. By the time Alaska voters realize their mistake, it will be too late. She and her cronies will have locked down that valuable commodity, a U.S. Senate seat, for 6 long years.

    It is not impossible to beat this stacked system, but requires immediate gaming of voting strategies and then relentless communication by every medium of the precise way voters must mark their ballots to defeat Murkowski’s scheme.

    The upshot is, Lisa Murkowski is not in trouble.

    There is no upshot to Murkowski doing anything other than retiring. Fortunately for Alaska and for America I’m convinced she’s getting pressured to step down. Unfortunately the Republican Party of AK isn’t conservative either and will want to run another yes man (woman) against Tshibaka, whom they know they can’t control. AK politicians are 90% owned by outside interests.  https://alaskawatchman.com/2021/04/14/murkowski-says-shes-still-mulling-reelection-campaign/

    • #56
  27. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Lisa Murkowski is “done”? The way she was “done” in 2010, when she lost the Republican Senate primary? Six years later she won it in a landslide. As for 2022, current polls suggest she would lose a Republican primary — if they had one. Her political allies got Alaska to switch to a jungle primary with preference ranking, which she is favored to win.

    Yes, she and her allies conned voters into rigging the Alaska voting system to keep her in the seat her daddy gave her for six more years. By the time Alaska voters realize their mistake, it will be too late. She and her cronies will have locked down that valuable commodity, a U.S. Senate seat, for 6 long years.

    It is not impossible to beat this stacked system, but requires immediate gaming of voting strategies and then relentless communication by every medium of the precise way voters must mark their ballots to defeat Murkowski’s scheme.

    The upshot is, Lisa Murkowski is not in trouble.

    There is no upshot to Murkowski doing anything other than retiring. Fortunately for Alaska and for America I’m convinced she’s getting pressured to step down. Unfortunately the Republican Party of AK isn’t conservative either and will want to run another yes man (woman) against Tshibaka, whom they know they can’t control. AK politicians are 90% owned by outside interests. https://alaskawatchman.com/2021/04/14/murkowski-says-shes-still-mulling-reelection-campaign/

    I’m not so sure.  Seems like Sens/Reps can take unspent campaign funds with them when they retire, unless that’s been changed.  So she might very well run again, win or lose, because if she wins she has the office for 6 more years, and if she loses she might be able to pocket millions.

    • #57
  28. Arahant Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Seems like Sens/Reps can take unspent campaign funds with them when they retire, unless that’s been changed.

    It was changed.

    • #58
  29. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Seems like Sens/Reps can take unspent campaign funds with them when they retire, unless that’s been changed.

    It was changed.

    I’m sure there are still ways to grease the skids by donating leftover money to other campaigns, etc.

    • #59
  30. Arahant Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    I’m sure there are still ways to grease the skids by donating leftover money to other campaigns, etc.

    That is correct.

    • #60
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