Talk to House Republicans, and they’ll tell you this about Liz Cheney: Her problem is not that she voted to impeach President Donald Trump. Her problem is that she can’t move on from voting to impeach Trump. At a time when House GOP leaders feel it is critical to oppose the Biden-Pelosi agenda — trillions in unnecessary new spending — Cheney seems determined to replay the events of January and feed the media’s “GOP civil war” narrative. And now House Republicans have had enough. They point to other GOP lawmakers who voted to impeach and have faced no repercussions from their party’s leadership. Cheney has created her own problems for herself, they say. And she might not be long for the leadership team.

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  1. Mollie Hemingway Contributor
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    So good, Byron.

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  2. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Liz Cheney‘s actions would fall into place if she is auditioning for a spot on CNN or MSNBC, or somewhere else in the liberal media;  a “house Republican” in a different sense.

    Another explanation is that if she ran as a spoiler in the 2024 election, Big Tech would open its fat wallets for her, to divide the Republican vote. Assuming she actually has any Republican following, that is.

    A third explanation, which Byron York hints at, is that she has an obnoxious personality that prevents her from working with people, much like former Senator Barbara Boxer was famous for having.

    Cheney has the same problem many media liberals have: the belief she can read Donald Trump‘s mind.

    There is every reason to suppose Trump is entirely sincere when he claims the election was stolen from him.  He may be wrong, but he’s not a liar.

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  3. Franco Member
    Franco
    @Franco

    Mr. York misses two strong possibilities in his speculations about Cheney’s inability to let go and her motivations. 1. It’s a family feud and 2. She’s a little too close to the CIA , who obviously have it out for Trump and Trump supporters (the FBI). 
    Interesting….

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  4. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    Sounds like she’s trying out for the McCain slot.

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  5. Paul Dougherty Member
    Paul Dougherty
    @PaulDougherty

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Sounds like she’s trying out for the McCain slot.

    Or, now allow me  a little deviation here,  maybe she believes the Republican Party has better future without being branded as Trump’s party. 

    Completely absent in Mr. York’s… condescending analysis is the communication between others in “leadership” and Trump’s agents or even the great man himself? I guess this whole affair is to be memoried as 100% Cheney bad. All the subtleties and artistry we’ve come to expect from Republicans, Crayola and coloring books.

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  6. Baker Member
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    @Baker

    “The former president is undeterred. He insisted in a statement this week that the idea that he lost the 2020 election is ”THE BIG LIE!” Rep. Liz Cheney famously responded in a tweet: That the election was stolen is actually the big lie.” 

    Solid piece from Ms. Noonan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/liz-cheney-confronts-a-house-of-cowards-11620342680

     

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  7. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Paul Dougherty (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Sounds like she’s trying out for the McCain slot.

    Or, now allow me a little deviation here, maybe she believes the Republican Party has better future without being branded as Trump’s party.

    Completely absent in Mr. York’s… condescending analysis is the communication between others in “leadership” and Trump’s agents or even the great man himself? I guess this whole affair is to be memoried as 100% Cheney bad. All the subtleties and artistry we’ve come to expect from Republicans, Crayola and coloring books.

    You didn’t actually listen to the podcast, did you.  York points out that the other House Republicans who were stampeded into voting for impeachment, but were grown up enough to agree to disagree when they realized they were very much in the minority, did not suffer any adverse consequences.

    Personally I was disappointed when Liz Cheney was not removed from leadership after helping the Democrats and hurting the 200 Republicans who voted against impeachment.  But the House Republican caucus said “All is forgiven.”  It was Liz Cheney alone who couldn’t move on from January 6th.

    In retrospect, she should never have been elected to leadership in the first place. It was only because of her famous name, and because they wanted a woman.  York is not the first to point out she did a poor job even before she chose to sabotage her own party.

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  8. Bishop Wash Member
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    @BishopWash

    Taras (View Comment):
    In retrospect, she should never have been elected to leadership in the first place. It was only because of her famous name, and because they wanted a woman

    And it appears that that is the only consideration for her replacement. Why follow in the Democrat’s footsteps of focusing on a person’s sex?

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  9. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Why follow in the Democrat’s footsteps of focusing on a person’s sex?

    Or other unimportant attributes? How about how good they are at getting the job done?

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  10. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Baker (View Comment):

    “The former president is undeterred. He insisted in a statement this week that the idea that he lost the 2020 election is ”THE BIG LIE!” Rep. Liz Cheney famously responded in a tweet: That the election was stolen is actually the big lie.”

    Solid piece from Ms. Noonan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/liz-cheney-confronts-a-house-of-cowards-11620342680

     

    … which seems to be behind a paywall.  

    Oh, well. It’s been a while since I’ve seen anything worth reading from Peggy Noonan.

    Just because people disagree with Liz Cheney doesn’t make them liars.  Even if they eventually turn out to be wrong.

     

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  11. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    In retrospect, she should never have been elected to leadership in the first place. It was only because of her famous name, and because they wanted a woman.

    And it appears that that is the only consideration for her replacement. Why follow in the Democrat’s footsteps of focusing on a person’s sex?

    Mostly because the Democrats and the media constantly accuse the Republicans of being a party of nothing but white men.  The Republicans try to contradict the stereotype when they can.

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  12. kedavis Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    In retrospect, she should never have been elected to leadership in the first place. It was only because of her famous name, and because they wanted a woman.

    And it appears that that is the only consideration for her replacement. Why follow in the Democrat’s footsteps of focusing on a person’s sex?

    Mostly because the Democrats and the media constantly accuse the Republicans of being a party of nothing but white men. The Republicans try to contradict the stereotype when they can.

    Meanwhile there’s another old white guy in the White House.

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  13. Percival Thatcher
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Sounds like she’s trying out for the McCain slot.

    Over Mitt Romney’s dead body.

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  14. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    Percival (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Sounds like she’s trying out for the McCain slot.

    Over Mitt Romney’s dead body.

    So, so tempting. . .

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  15. Paul Dougherty Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Why follow in the Democrat’s footsteps of focusing on a person’s sex?

    Or other unimportant attributes? How about how good they are at getting the job done?

    Yep, that’s Stefaniak. Gettin the job done.

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  16. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Ricochet Audio Network: Her problem is that she can’t move on from voting to impeach Trump. At a time when House GOP leaders feel it is critical to oppose the Biden-Pelosi agenda — trillions in unnecessary new spending — Cheney seems determined to replay the events of January and feed the media’s “GOP civil war” narrative.

    Oh no, there most certainly is a GOP civil war, it’s just between the GOP versus its base.

    And now House Republicans have had enough. They point to other GOP lawmakers who voted to impeach and have faced no repercussions from their party’s leadership.

    They and their leaders will, from the voters.

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  17. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Paul Dougherty (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Why follow in the Democrat’s footsteps of focusing on a person’s sex?

    Or other unimportant attributes? How about how good they are at getting the job done?

    Yep, that’s Stefaniak. Gettin the job done.

    I first noticed Elise Stefanik during the first impeachment, when she came out slugging.  “During the November 2019 hearings, in which Congress gathered evidence and heard witness testimony in relation to the impeachment inquiry into Trump, Stefanik emerged as a key defender of Trump.”—Wikipedia.  

    Leftists at her alma mater, Harvard, have blacklisted her.  Which made me like her even more; but I’m sure you side with the leftists.

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  18. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Byron misses it once again because he’s only ever looking at issues from a DC perspective. The real reason Cheney is in deep kimchee is because Trump supporters are itching for a fight against everyone who betrayed him in January, and I’m sorry to say, that includes Byron York to a degree. She’s just the first and most vocal of the swamp creatures who will feel the sting. There will be others, all those who refuse to listen to We The People. 

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  19. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Byron misses it once again because he’s only ever looking at issues from a DC perspective. The real reason Cheney is in deep kimchee is because Trump supporters are itching for a fight against everyone who betrayed him in January, and I’m sorry to say, that includes Byron York to a degree. She’s just the first and most vocal of the swamp creatures who will feel the sting. There will be others, all those who refuse to listen to We The People.

    I hope they/we have the memory to last that long, and the gumption to follow through when election day comes.

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  20. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    She’s going for an MSNBC contract. It’s also a call option on the GOP going towards Gary’s / GOPe’s  paradigm. 

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  21. FredGoodhue Coolidge
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    @FredGoodhue

    This reminds me of the Russia collusion conspiracy theory.  That was the Democrat attempt to overturn the 2016 election.  Once that was obviously false to almost everyone but the most rabid partisans, Democrats, and the mainstream media memory holed it.  With the stolen election conspiracy theory, once it was obviously false to almost everyone but the most rabid partisans, Republicans tried to memory hole it.  But some Republicans, like Liz Cheney and the Arizona recounters, will not let us forget about it.

    Liz’s Father was George Bush’s Vice President.  Donald Trump said the Bush administration knowingly lied about WMD in Iraq.  I’m sure Liz Cheney has a justifiable personal grudge against Donald Trump.

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  22. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):
    Liz’s Father was George Bush’s Vice President.  Donald Trump said the Bush administration knowingly lied about WMD in Iraq.  I’m sure Liz Cheney has a justifiable personal grudge against Donald Trump.

    True she has a personal and familial grudge against Trump, but I don’t think Trump ever said the Bush Aministration “knowingly lied” about WMD. He certainly criticized them for the whole debacle. Please cite the quote for me?

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  23. FredGoodhue Coolidge
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    Franco (View Comment):

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):
    Liz’s Father was George Bush’s Vice President. Donald Trump said the Bush administration knowingly lied about WMD in Iraq. I’m sure Liz Cheney has a justifiable personal grudge against Donald Trump.

    True she has a personal and familial grudge against Trump, but I don’t think Trump ever said the Bush Aministration “knowingly lied” about WMD. He certainly criticized them for the whole debacle. Please cite the quote for me?

    https://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/yes-trump-said-bush-lied/

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):
    Liz’s Father was George Bush’s Vice President. Donald Trump said the Bush administration knowingly lied about WMD in Iraq. I’m sure Liz Cheney has a justifiable personal grudge against Donald Trump.

    True she has a personal and familial grudge against Trump, but I don’t think Trump ever said the Bush Aministration “knowingly lied” about WMD. He certainly criticized them for the whole debacle. Please cite the quote for me?

    https://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/yes-trump-said-bush-lied/

    I think Larry Elder confronted Trump on this and he shut up after that.

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  25. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

    Ricochet Audio Network: Her problem is that she can’t move on from voting to impeach Trump.

    Exactly.  It’s the same thing with never-Trumpers.  It’s one thing to voice your opinion, but to continually harp on it?

    It’s why I stopped listening to some of my favorite podcasts.  One or more hosts would no sooner open their mouths when a string of tirades against Trump were released.  And here’s the thing – it didn’t matter whether or not I agreed with them.  It had to do with the vileness of they way they worded it and their attitude.  And now we have Liz Cheney who apparently can’t take the criticism for her impeachment vote and move on to the task at hand – stopping the Democrats . . .

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  26. FredGoodhue Coolidge
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    @FredGoodhue

    Stad (View Comment):

    Ricochet Audio Network: Her problem is that she can’t move on from voting to impeach Trump.

    Exactly. It’s the same thing with never-Trumpers. It’s one thing to voice your opinion, but to continually harp on it?

    It’s why I stopped listening to some of my favorite podcasts. One or more hosts would no sooner open their mouths when a string of tirades against Trump were released. And here’s the thing – it didn’t matter whether or not I agreed with them. It had to do with the vileness of they way they worded it and their attitude. And now we have Liz Cheney who apparently can’t take the criticism for her impeachment vote and move on to the task at hand – stopping the Democrats . . .

    I still harp on Jimmy Carter.

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  27. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):
    Liz’s Father was George Bush’s Vice President. Donald Trump said the Bush administration knowingly lied about WMD in Iraq. I’m sure Liz Cheney has a justifiable personal grudge against Donald Trump.

    True she has a personal and familial grudge against Trump, but I don’t think Trump ever said the Bush Aministration “knowingly lied” about WMD. He certainly criticized them for the whole debacle. Please cite the quote for me?

    https://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/yes-trump-said-bush-lied/

    Well then, that’s another thing I disagree with Trump about. At least he stopped pushing it and tried to walk it back.

    I hate how the word “lie” is used when there’s no way to know, or of someone was just lied to and then repeated the untruth is called a liar. 
    I wonder though, why stalwart Republican Colin Powell so strongly reacted. 
    I have zero doubt that our Intel Agencies lie as a matter of course, and so I can’t believe anything they say about anything. 
     The biggest liars are in the media ( although some of it is just repeating lies without investigation) and next is politicians. 

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  28. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Franco (View Comment):

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):
    Liz’s Father was George Bush’s Vice President. Donald Trump said the Bush administration knowingly lied about WMD in Iraq. I’m sure Liz Cheney has a justifiable personal grudge against Donald Trump.

    True she has a personal and familial grudge against Trump, but I don’t think Trump ever said the Bush Aministration “knowingly lied” about WMD. He certainly criticized them for the whole debacle. Please cite the quote for me?

    https://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/yes-trump-said-bush-lied/

    Well then, that’s another thing I disagree with Trump about. At least he stopped pushing it and tried to walk it back.

    I hate how the word “lie” is used when there’s no way to know, or of someone was just lied to and then repeated the untruth is called a liar.
    I wonder though, why stalwart Republican Colin Powell so strongly reacted.
    I have zero doubt that our Intel Agencies lie as a matter of course, and so I can’t believe anything they say about anything.
    The biggest liars are in the media ( although some of it is just repeating lies without investigation) and next is politicians.

    There’s a touch of poetic justice in Trump accusing Dubya of lying for what was probably an honest mistake; and then himself being accused of lying for things he sincerely believes.

    Of course, the Goddess of Poetic Justice should stop already, after making her point 10,000 times over!

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  29. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Byron misses it once again because he’s only ever looking at issues from a DC perspective. The real reason Cheney is in deep kimchee is because Trump supporters are itching for a fight against everyone who betrayed him in January, and I’m sorry to say, that includes Byron York to a degree. She’s just the first and most vocal of the swamp creatures who will feel the sting. There will be others, all those who refuse to listen to We The People.

    I hope they/we have the memory to last that long, and the gumption to follow through when election day comes.

    Remember, if Liz Cheney had simply refrained from constantly reopening the wounds from January, she would be sitting pretty today.

    Add a few tactful non-apology apologies and she could have made the threat of being primaried go away.

    She acts like she expects a groundswell of support to miraculously appear, sweeping her to power.

    P.S.:  Byron York is worth his weight in gold.  He may be the best investigative reporter we have.

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  30. Richard Easton Coolidge
    Richard Easton
    @RichardEaston

    Byron, she won’t be standing for re-election in November 2022 if she loses the primary election next year.

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