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You Want Unity? Seriously?
It’s like asking a person who has gone through four years of unjustified, ceaseless torture to join up with you in running the country. Let’s be unified?
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
First, let me say that I’m not a person who takes revenge, which I define as exacting punishment for a wrong in a resentful spirit. But I do feel motivated to avenge this corrupt election: I do want to inflict punishment as an act of retributive justice. At one time revenge and avenge meant the same thing, but I think the subtle difference is relevant in this situation.
Joe Biden is not justified in asking for unity. In the last four years, the Democrats and the media have scorned the President and the Presidency. They have lied, distorted, and planned ceaselessly, every single day, to destroy President Trump. Attacking the President, his family, his staff, and his supporters with such derision and hatefulness does not warrant any effort on the part of the Republicans to come anywhere close to trying to unify the government. In effect, the Democrats violated every code of integrity, decency, and truthfulness in their efforts. Political parties always have a certain amount of feuding that happens, but to begin attacking the President before he even took office is detestable. There needs to be accountability.
In addition to choosing to avenge the President’s treatment, I think we need to understand what Biden means by unity: don’t get in our way. He can’t possibly believe that the Republicans will support a far-Left agenda. Joining in his plans to destroy the country economically by trying to initiate climate change legislation, increase taxes, continue to abuse our education curricula, remove tariffs with the Chinese, pass onerous regulations against businesses—there is no way that can happen with our complicity. It not only would eliminate the economic growth that occurred during Trump’s time in office, but would take the country into an economic tailspin.
But Biden’s using the word “unity,” when other words might have been more appropriate is a “tell.” If he had said cooperation or negotiating in government, I might have had a different reaction. But Biden is addressing the entire country, more specifically Republicans. He’s talking to us, the citizens on the Right:
He wants us to make believe that the last four years never happened.
He wants us to be willing to put aside our differences and support their agenda.
He wants us to forget those who insulted, attacked, and harassed us, even making sure that people lost their jobs.
He wants us to make believe that there is no cancel culture, that it’s okay if the mainstream media continues to berate us, that we should be helpful and cooperative, just like the Republicans of old.
You destroyed any possibility of our working with you. You have no idea how deplorable we can be.
No matter who finally wins the election, you will lose.
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That might be useful to show who had possession of it that signed, but it wouldn’t show who might have had possession that DIDN’T sign.
And it also wouldn’t stop people from adding more ballots that were never in those envelopes to start with.
Uhh.. have you heard of Hillary Clinton? Can’t you wait until we are sure the fraud wasn’t so widespread that it swung the election? If Trump does whole, “I didn’t really lose,” thing that Hillary did then he deserves to be dug into.
It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Or as Dr Johnny Fever (WKRP) says, “When everybody is out to get you, paranoid is just good thinking!”
That line is even better.
I liked it. :-)
Sadly I couldn’t find a video clip of it.
This is a central point, @jclimacus. We fight for the integrity of the process; they only work to damage and manipulate it.
I agree that Republicans support voter ID and other reforms that would improve our electoral process.
But human nature is human nature. I think people of all kinds of political ideologies are capable of participating in a scheme to stuff ballot boxes in order to advance a cause that they believe in.
I believe that someone who is pro-abortion is willing to stuff ballot boxes in favor of pro-abortion candidates and I believe that someone who is pro-gun is willing to stuff ballot boxes in favor of pro-gun candidates.
In a few weeks it will be even more clear than it is now that Trump lost, Biden won, just as many candidates for US Senate and US House won while their Democrat opponents lost.
That’s the way elections work. Sometimes you win them and sometimes you lose them.
By the way. If the Democrats stuffed the ballot boxes in Pennsylvania, they did an incompetent job of it.
The Republicans performed are trailing in the presidential race but in the Pennsylvania U.S. House races, the GOP candidates are currently getting 117,000 more votes than the Democrat candidates.
So, maybe the presidential race was viewed differently by the voters. Maybe there were many potential GOP voters just couldn’t stomach Trump, but voted GOP in other races. Maybe that explains the results in Pennsylvania.
In Pennsylvania Republicans won the Auditor General and Treasurer races even while losing the presidential race there.
Maybe you should find another OP to comment on, @heavywater. Your comments are repetitive and tiresome, plus I’m becoming weary at your persistence for poking at those who support Trump. Your hypotheticals are meaningless. And I frankly don’t care what will happen in two weeks. I’m dealing with what is going on now. You’ve made your point: you believe Trump will lose. We get it. Can you please move along?
I was responding to J Climacus’ point about how conservatives support election reform while the Left opposes it. I agree with that.
That was my point.
Also, I do think that the fact that Republicans did very well in the Pennsylvania election in non-presidential races provides a clue that Trump didn’t lose Pennsylvania due to voter fraud, but due to voter aversion to him among some ticket splitting voters.
HeavyWater is also speaking for me.
My comment applies to you, too. After a while your comments are repetitive and tiresome.
Especially the repetitious comments that have also been repeatedly debunked. Such as, the Charlotteseville Lie.
You must be quoting someone else.
Hi Susan,
I don’t believe that I commented on this post. If you see that I did, please let me know. Therefore, my comments cannot be deemed to be repetitive as I have not commented until Comment #101.
Gary
“Your comments” in the generic sense, I believe.
I was replying to/commenting on the reply to Gary, not you.
Please do not hijack Susan’s post. If you would like to talk about what you call the Charlottesville Lie, and I call the Charlottesville Hoax Hoax (https://thebulwark.com/the-charlottesville-hoax-hoax/), please start your own post.
Are you speaking for Susan?
I think OldPhil is a moderator and would like both of us to leave Ricochet. Is that correct?
Well, I think that the Trumpist portion of Ricochet would like for me to leave Ricochet. And the Co-Founders or Editors are free to ask me to leave at any time, and as this is their website, I would honor their requests.
Ricochet survived the SSM (Same Sex Marrige) wars. And I think that it will survive the Trump wars.
What you and I have to do is to avoid being provoked into being intemperate and violating the CofC. Increasingly, I am staying out of the Member Feed, as it has some of the crazier ideas. “Have a revote!”, and “Have the legislatures select a rival sets of electors to the Electoral College!” to name a couple. I am usually sticking to the Main Feed as this is what the public can see. And I have repeatedly reviewed the CofC to insure that I stay squarely within its bounds.
Gary: “Heavy Water” speaks for me!
Susan: Your comments are tiresome.
Gary: But I haven’t said anything.
Literally LOL.
A quick note Drew. I am pleased to see that you have gone from being just a “member” to being part of the Cool Coolidge Level. Good for you!
Good job of not hijacking the thread there, Gary and HeavyWater.
I think that Susan hijacked her own post when she tried to shut up HeavyWater back on Comment #99. I was happy to stay out of this post until I say someone trying to shut up HeavyWater. All I commented was that HeavyWater spoke for me too at Comment #101. I am not responsible that folks lost their minds over me saying merely six words in Comment #101 of “HeavyWater is also speaking for me.” Your quarrel is with them, not HeavyWater or me.
Gary, if you post a comment, everyone sees it, believe it or not.
Har har.
Yes, in general that’s true.
All moderators have the label “Moderator” under their avatar.
It’s unfortunate that you write in a way that you have to check the CoC.
Now that is such an interesting accusation, @garyrobbins. I’ve never been accused of hijacking my own thread!