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You Want Unity? Seriously?
It’s like asking a person who has gone through four years of unjustified, ceaseless torture to join up with you in running the country. Let’s be unified?
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
First, let me say that I’m not a person who takes revenge, which I define as exacting punishment for a wrong in a resentful spirit. But I do feel motivated to avenge this corrupt election: I do want to inflict punishment as an act of retributive justice. At one time revenge and avenge meant the same thing, but I think the subtle difference is relevant in this situation.
Joe Biden is not justified in asking for unity. In the last four years, the Democrats and the media have scorned the President and the Presidency. They have lied, distorted, and planned ceaselessly, every single day, to destroy President Trump. Attacking the President, his family, his staff, and his supporters with such derision and hatefulness does not warrant any effort on the part of the Republicans to come anywhere close to trying to unify the government. In effect, the Democrats violated every code of integrity, decency, and truthfulness in their efforts. Political parties always have a certain amount of feuding that happens, but to begin attacking the President before he even took office is detestable. There needs to be accountability.
In addition to choosing to avenge the President’s treatment, I think we need to understand what Biden means by unity: don’t get in our way. He can’t possibly believe that the Republicans will support a far-Left agenda. Joining in his plans to destroy the country economically by trying to initiate climate change legislation, increase taxes, continue to abuse our education curricula, remove tariffs with the Chinese, pass onerous regulations against businesses—there is no way that can happen with our complicity. It not only would eliminate the economic growth that occurred during Trump’s time in office, but would take the country into an economic tailspin.
But Biden’s using the word “unity,” when other words might have been more appropriate is a “tell.” If he had said cooperation or negotiating in government, I might have had a different reaction. But Biden is addressing the entire country, more specifically Republicans. He’s talking to us, the citizens on the Right:
He wants us to make believe that the last four years never happened.
He wants us to be willing to put aside our differences and support their agenda.
He wants us to forget those who insulted, attacked, and harassed us, even making sure that people lost their jobs.
He wants us to make believe that there is no cancel culture, that it’s okay if the mainstream media continues to berate us, that we should be helpful and cooperative, just like the Republicans of old.
You destroyed any possibility of our working with you. You have no idea how deplorable we can be.
No matter who finally wins the election, you will lose.
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Don’t fool yourself. This isn’t over until the vote is certified. RCP just pulled PA from Biden. They are still counting. And you missed the third possibility, and the fourth. Three is the votes are not yet certified, and thus not official. Trump may still take PA, may still take AZ, and others. Not to mention the SCOTUS likely hood to disallow thousands of PA votes received late. Four, it may well be a combination of widespread cheating, (Not really very rare) and a closer vote than it may look now.
I won’t assume your opinion, just curious. Do you not think the Democrats have shown themselves quite capable of and comfortable with winning by any means necessary including cheating, lying, and intimidation?
Count the legal votes, recount the close elections, clear the legal challenges and certify a winner. THEN Trump should consider announcing he lost. Not before. Those are the rules, and that’s how we play it.
In late January of next year we will find out which one of us is fooling himself.
Judges aren’t going to look at the current vote count in Pennsylvania, where Biden is ahead by over 45,000 votes (without even counting the late arrivals, which have been segregated from the other ballots and are currently uncounted) and announce, “Ah, but the real vote count puts Trump ahead of Biden.”
Trump and his allies are selling a fantasy to the MAGA crowd. The MAGA crowd will donate money to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund. Trump’s attorneys and consultants will make tons of money. But, in the end, Trump will lose and Biden will be President next January.
You heard it here first. Well, actually you heard it somewhere else first. But Trump is toast. It’s now just a money making operation, courtesy of the MAGA donors.
Maybe you should have held off on your gloating until the election was certified.
But alas, you spent the last three days gloating, and you may have to dine on crow very, very soon.
There is no fooling myself in saying it isn’t over till the vote is certified. Anything else is purely conjecture. Projection. In other words, not real.
Trump may lose. We all are aware he is the underdog. But lets wait for the official tally before we start calling each other fools.
Ok. I won’t say you are fooling yourself.
But I do think that if we look at the history of statewide elections in the United States of America, we’d have to go back to 1876 before we could find an election that yielded a result remotely close to what Trump and his attorneys are attempting to achieve.
I think the odds of Trump winning are so low that you’d have to go out many decimal places to find those odds.
This is a fundraising opportunity for Trump’s attorneys. It isn’t a serious attempt at keeping Trump in the White House past January 20, 2021.
Same odds as before the election started, right? Biden up by 15 points? If you’re a betting man, you didn’t cover the spread.
There is no spread. One candidate wins. The other candidates go home.
Biden won. All that is left is the wishful thinking and the income stream for Trump’s attorneys.
Well, at least we know the newspaper of record has declared this election mostly legitimate.
https://babylonbee.com/news/in-victory-speech-biden-assures-americans-elections-were-mostly-legitimate
Democrat’s idea of unity is when Republicans announce:
Is sniffing little girls the kind of thing a paragon usually does?
You don’t really understand how elections work, do you?
Above and beyond the abominable behavior of Democrats over the past four (and many more) years, if Biden and/or Harris becomes president there can be no cooperation (let alone unity) until the Democrats publicly repudiate the many people in the Democratic party and aligned with it who have been and are calling for punishment of people who support the Trump administration. There is no basis for trust. There is no basis for “unity.”
“unity” is a code word for “capitulation”.
The fact that I won’t be on the list being compiled, in the name of unity, by AOC and others makes me feel like an underachiever.
Absolutely right! There is no desire on the Left to join hands with those (us) icky people who supported Trump as president. They don’t like how we think, they don’t like how we live, they don’t like our patriotism.
Susan said:
You destroyed any possibility of our working with you. You have no idea how deplorable we can be.
No matter who finally wins the election, you will lose.
Yes, there is no chance that after four years of them letting us know how awful we are, there is no chance that we (or at least I) have no desire to pretend that all can be forgiven and forgotten.
And, yes, Michelle Obama, please stop talking.
When the left says “unity”, they mean “shut up and get with our program.”
A politician isn’t something that can bring unity. Unity must be around ideas . When you have academy, media and entertainment dumping on the founding ideas of the country, constantly tell us that the US is a horrible country, how can we be unified.
Oh, but you will be unified OR ELSE!!!
That’s right. When the left says “unity”, they mean “get with the program or else.” This is what they’ve always meant. It’s what Obama meant. “Dividers” are those individuals who resist getting on board with the progressive agenda.
The vote dumps and opaque “counting” in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania scream huge fraud. Give us your odds on Dems being able to hide that.
@fullsizetabby! Double like!!
So, how is that unity going?
“Wreckers” I believe was the word in the Soviet Union.
The 2020 presidential election and the 2016 presidential election were conducted very similarly, except, given pandemic fears, there was much more mail in voting.
In 2016 the Left called Donald Trump’s election illegitimate due to Russian hacking and voter suppression. But no state or federal court ruled in favor of the Left and Donald Trump was sworn in as president in January 2017.
In 2020 the Right is calling Joe Biden’s election illegitimate due to voter fraud. But no state or federal court is likely to rule in favor of the Right and Joe Biden will likely be sworn in as president in January 2021.
Neither the Left nor the Right thinks losing elections is fun. Both the Left and the Right have a list of ready made excuses for their electoral defeats.
Oh, and this does not mean that there was no voter fraud in the 2020 election. In fact, in a nation as large as the United States, a country of 330 million, most elections consist of voter fraud. But proving to a state or federal judge that a candidate would have won except for the voter fraud is extremely difficult.
Trump is a great whiner. And his attorneys are appearing on Fox News and other right leaning media outlets. I continue to receive email solicitations from Donald Trump asking for donations to his Legal Defense Fund to fight voter fraud. But in the end Trump will fail and Biden will be president.
Best to focus on the 2 special Senate elections in Georgia than to fight the last war.
I don’t get it. The last war hasn’t been fought yet. Trump’s legal challenges have yet to be heard in court. Right now only the media has declared him President, and I doubt Trump’s legal team has made public all its evidence of voter fraud.
I’m all for moving on when the war is over. I’m not for surrendering before the war is even fought. And pursuing the legal challenges to the Presidential election and preparing for the Georgia Senate elections are not mutually exclusive activities. Take a lesson from the Left: They press for victory on all fronts at all times. The Right, for some reason, is too tired to do more than one thing at once. And, apparently, because the Left’s obviously bogus legal challenges to the 2016 election failed, that should demoralize us enough to forego pursuing our own much more substantial legal challenges to the 2020 election. How can you win with this kind of attitude?
Trump lost the election. Thus, spending energy trying to revive a dead man is a waste of resources, resources which could be used to our advantage in Georgia.
If I donate 500 dollars to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund, that is 500 dollars that is unavailable to me to donate to the 2 Republican US Senate candidates in Georgia.
I don’t have unlimited amounts of money to donate. Nobody does.
Well, I guess we are on different planets. On my planet, the election has not been declared yet by the proper authorities. CNN doesn’t count.
So don’t donate. Go down to Georgia. You can do that, and Trump can still pursue legal recourse on the Presidential election. It’s not either/or.
I agree. Trump’s attorneys can file as many lawsuits as they like. But Trump’s toast. So, there’s that.
Another question: “Why would Democrats want to unify with deplorable xenophobic racists?”
Theres not even a ‘take back’ offered.
There’s no Kamala Harris-like cackle arrogantly laughing off her charges against Biden, “Hehe hehe, it was a debate! It was a debate!”
So , “hehehehe, it was an election! It was an election! Trump was a Republican! We were out of power! What do you expect? Of course we will say anything to stop him! But it’s over now and let’s all hold hands, because we want our blatant power-grab to come off without a hitch.”???