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A Lose-Lose Election for Americans
Trigger Warning: Deep depression may ensue after reading this post.
Tonight I realized that in many respects, everyone is going to lose, no matter what the election results are. In particular, relationships with friends, family, and co-workers that are polarized will become even further antagonistic. Civil disruption will grow. It’s a pretty ugly picture.
If Joe Biden wins the election, the very future of our democracy will be at risk. Democrats will begin to shift governance to a socialist structure. Laws will be passed that will challenge the relevance of the Constitution. Those of us on the other side will begin to realize, if we haven’t already, that our way of life will be at risk. The Bill of Rights will be bypassed in numerous ways. Censorship will be common; gun bans will be initiated and religions will be further censured. We, on the Right, will finally be so angry and frustrated that we will feel compelled to take action; how that action will manifest is a serious concern. Political discussions that may have been avoided between people with adversarial views will now be out in the open. Polarization will intensify and relationships will be further degraded. The Right will feel that by electing Joe Biden (and by default, Kamala Harris), the Left has betrayed the country. And they will want to find a way to take our country back.
What happens if President Trump wins a second term? If you think the Left felt robbed by the President’s first election, you haven’t seen anything yet. Hysteria will reign. They will demand recounts all over the country. Missed ballots by the thousands will surface. Ballots from precincts will disappear. The Left will ultimately not win, but they also will want revenge. And as in the results of the other side, the Left will sever relationships with people they know, intensifying their vitriol and hatred. Riots, destruction of property, and murders will increase.
Chaos will reign.
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I’m doing my best to imagine a productive and peaceful outcome to the election, but for once, optimism fails me. I would welcome anyone who can contradict this picture and offer hope.
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Not that I doubt it, but do you have a link to that?
Regardless, to add to Mr. Stephens’ sentiments, checking back with Michael Yon this morning:
I posit that none of these people give a rat’s @$$ about the election and that neither Joe Biden nor the people in control of Joe Biden have any control whatsoever over them. So I doubt this gets dialed back from “11” in early November…it will go higher. I firmly believe this is happening now whether “we” are ready for it or not.
(Intellectually dishonest, comment section blowhards may or may not really believe this “elimination” vomit they spill on pages like this, but I assure you many out there in the streets do…and they are organized…and they are well funded. These organizing / funding sources also don’t give a damn about any return to order following the election. Their real agenda is clear for all willing to see.)
To go back to Madam Quinn’s earlier question to me, history will decide whether to call this a civil war or not…the name will not change the events one iota. One side is clearly already at war but those who “buy ink by the barrel” (a very outdated reference) won’t really call it that unless a Republican president brings his game. I haven’t a clue how they will frame it as the unrest from the Left continues to escalate if Biden is elected. It will just be societal suicide overtly assisted by the fully corrupted forces of the
FederalNational Government.I do know that any pushback of similar type (does not even have to be comparable in scope) will be met much differently by the media. Any “elimination” talk (like Yon reports above) even whispered in a dark corner of someone’s basement will be blasted from the media megaphone from sea to shining sea. Demagogues with keyboards…by and large, today’s media truly are an enemy of American-style Liberty.
See ya in the GULAG.
Here you go with the Pithy response from James. Valiuth never responded.
https://ricochet.com/812170/what-could-the-democrats-possibly-be-thinking-a-a-biden-inauguration-could-be-the-start-of-a-democratic-party-disaster/#comment-4946584
ANTIFA/BLM/Women’s March? The movement grows:
philo,
Ugly stupid thugs. Marxist pawns out to viciously attack anybody they can. I don’t want to say what such people deserve, it’s obvious.
Regards,
Jim
It is deeply distressing for me to read these accounts, and yet we must all be as fully informed as possible. @philo and @bryangstephens, it all sounds pretty dire. I hope we are surprised–that the worst (however a person would describe it) would not happen. I don’t know what else to say. Prayer?
Prayer is all I have to stop it.
I have go to go buy ammo. God never answers yes for me.
So do I. I’ve watched it building all my life, and I was afraid I’d miss it.
@barfly, when you say you want the fight, what does that look like to you? (sincere question)
Prayer helps one deal with reality. It doesn’t change it, it just lets one see it clearly.
Roberts hates 5-4 decisions. He blows with the wind. He will make them 6-3 decisions.
As for post-November it will not be pretty. Either way we need “Operation Warpspeed” for ammo.
Broad spectrum conflict across all social and economic tiers. The conflict has existed in academia, business, religion, and in the street as long as I’ve been watching. Academic conflicts have always been petty and childish, but now the children have supplanted all the adults. The street has always been dangerous for us of pallor, but now we’re finally being told explicitly whose lives matter. Everywhere between academia and the street has always been in conflict, and it’s intensifying.
Things that can’t go on forever, don’t. I used to play with little cardboard-and-rubber-band models that illustrate the seven kinds of fundamental catastrophe (according to one classification.) Real systems accumulate strain until something gives way, then they realign themselves.
The result of the conflict I see coming will shake things out across Western society. Conflict will peak during PDT’s second term and last a year or two, then it’ll take a generation to run its course. Things that work will flourish, and things of the left will die. I think that’s a safe prediction because if I have it backwards then we’ll all have so much trouble on our hands that I’ll never be called on it.
Thanks for elaborating, barfly.
I used this on another thread: Trump and Biden exist in different worlds.
You, I, and most Trump supporters and likely Trump himself think this. So Trump is modest when he says MAGA. If Biden wins, we must regroup and work on a strategy.
They will be very agitated for a while but it will subside. After all, the Marxists play the long game but they have a clan that is over-anxious and overplays it’s hand at times.
But what did I mean when I said they exist in different worlds? Biden and his people exist in a material world and their commitments are earthly and expressed in earthly rewards, thus the corruption.
Trump and his supporters operate on a higher level dedicated to preserving and sustaining what is of greater value than can be traded for earthly endeavors or rewards.
Suzy,
So you wish to imagine how it will end. For this, you will need the concept of unconditional surrender. Perhaps a little newsreel will help make it real.
We fight them until they break. A simple plan.
Regards,
Jim
I am beginning to think Twitter Trump is a foil, a decoy he uses to rile the opposition and goad them into wasting ammo on the wrong target.
Do you mean, Watch my right hand while I stab you with my left? One thing that is sure about Trump’s tweets and that is that they are effective. This is proven by twitter actually blocking some of them this year. And yes, he may be cannier than just about anyone believes. He certainly does tend to control the topic.
Yes.
If Trump wins BLM and Antifa will be in the streets. If Biden wins they will be in the White House
I liked what I read that an immigrant from the chaos in Venezuela (now predominantly Trump voters by the way) said about it: “Socialism is the anesthesia* for communism.”
*Others say Trojan horse.
Both definitions work for me. Or I should say don’t.
I wrote this just before the 2016 presidential election. With minor edits it is still fully relevant and perhaps worth reposting this year as well. https://ricochet.com/382988/archives/declaring-november-9-well-wednesday/
Let’s make November 4th “It Is Well Wednesday” regardless what happens Tuesday the 3rd.
This thread is depressing, imagine what the Democrats on the left are saying about us? Everybody has got to calm down.
They started it and they wont stand down.
The Democrats are the enemy of The American Way. Period. They will round us up and put us in camps. That is what they want. Blaming ethnic groups for all ills always leads to that.
I will not calm down when people in my nation want me dead.
Sometimes the truth is ugly.