Trump, Melania Test Positive for COVID-19

 

President Trump took to Twitter just before 1 a.m. ET to announce that both he and the First Lady tested positive for COVID-19.

Sean Conley, the Physician to the President, released the following statement:

I release the following information with the permission of President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump.

This evening I received confirmation that both President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The President and the First Lady are both well at this time and they plan to remain at home within the White House during their convalescence.

The White House medical team and I will maintain a vigilant watch, and I appreciate the support provided by some of our country’s greatest medical professionals and institutions. Rest assured I expect the President to continue carrying out his duties without disruption while recovering, and I will keep you updated on any future developments.

Get well soon, President and First Lady!

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  1. RufusRJones Member
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    He could have worn a mask more frequently and he could have taken social distancing more seriously.

    And you could know when to quit.

    And you could learn to accept the truth without trying to shout it down.

    Great. Prove, then, that he got it because he didn’t wear a mask or social-distance enough. If that’s the “truth” then prove it.

    My sister-in-law wore a mask every time she went out in public. She lives surrounded by miles and miles of state forest so she is naturally socially-distant from everyone. Tell me how she got it. She doesn’t know, but since you’re so smart, you must know the truth.

    Mask-shaming is awful. It’s like a cult.

    Americans died because Trump turned wearing masks into a political issue rather than a matter of common sense.

    I’ve read everything I can get my hands on about masks as a public health intervention. They don’t have the slightest idea of how much it affects the R0. 

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  2. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I was thinking like a “lawyer” who dissects situations instead as a “person” who expresses messages of condolences like Rachel Maddow, of all people did. I am sorry for the kerfuffle that I created.

    Often when a client asks my opinion of how to react to a situation, I will say “Well, as a lawyer, my response would be [how to wipe out the other side], but as a person, my response would be [how to have compassion for your spouse who you once loved]. Usually when I put it that way, the client will listen to their better angels. At the same time, I have avoided committing malpractice.

    Gary, you can’t excuse your behavior by being a lawyer.

    You have ended your comments too many times by desiring to drive “a stake through Trump’s chest”. You read that he was positive for covid and you immediately relished thinking this was the stake that was finally going to kill him.

    No, no, no. I have never wished for Trump to literally die. Trump is a beloved Child of God, and a sentient human being.

    You miss the context of the term “drive a stake through the heart.” In classic European folklore, the only way to kill a vampire, or to prevent a corpse from becoming a vampire, is to drive a wooden stake through their heart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_in_myth_and_art#:~:text=Vampires%20and%20other%20undead,-The%20idea%20that&text=In%20classic%20European%20folklore%2C%20it,and%20was%20buried%20in%201656.

    I believe that Trump and Trumpism need to be driven out of the Republican Party, just as the Bill Buckley exiled the John Birch Society. That is what I mean by driving a wooden stake through the heart of Trump and Trumpism.

    I believe that people like you need to be driven out of the Republican party because you keep calling us racist.

    Yet again, we see the COC does not apply to you.

    The overwhelming majority of members of the Republican Party are not racists.

    But they support Trump, and you just compared Trump supporters to Birchers.

    Clearly, you are saying we are all racists, Gary.

    Man up and own what you mean.

    He must mean all those Republicans that don’t support Trump. You know, over there in that phone booth —>

    My sainted mother voted for Trump.  She is certainly not a racist or terrible person.

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  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    , but we simply have to be able to forgive each other if this nation is going to survive. There was more brotherly feeling after the Civil War in this country than between some quarters in America right now.

    No I will not forgive many Americans unless they admit to their wrongs.

    I will not forgive someone who keeps saying I am a member of a cult and a racist.

    Never. Never. Never.

    If we are going into the fire, I will not go gently into the night.

    I, for one, have never said that you are a racist, nor do I believe that you are a racist.

    You are clearly saying I am a member of a cult, because you don’t deny that!

    No, I said that Trump was trying to create a “Cult of Personality” which I believe, which is distinct from accusing someone who likes Trump from being a “cultist.” However, the Mods have counseled me to not say that as it implies that supporters of Trump are all cultists. I have acceded to their request.

    Now that you are hopefully clear that I am not accusing you to be part of the “Q-Anon Cult” or the “Jonestown Cult,” let’s discuss the phrase “Cult of Personality,” I refer to Nikita Khrushchev’s 1956 “Secret Speech” to the 20th Party Congress, where Khrushchev pointed to how Stalin had overwhelmed the party into idolatry of himself.

    I hope that I have clarified this issue for you. It is possible you are suffering from GDS (Gary Derangement Syndrome) and I urge you to be aware of that possibility.

    All my personal best,

    Gary

    You use the phrase, “Tumpist” quite a bit, and you have talked about people being in a cult of personality before. The above is a lie, because the posts are there. 

    So, no clarification, Gary. 

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  4. Gary Robbins Member
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    But they support Trump, and you just compared Trump supporters to Birchers.

    Clearly, you are saying we are all racists, Gary.

    Man up and own what you mean.

    Were Birchers racists? I associate them more with paranoid conspiracy theories, such as the idea that fluoridation of water was a Commie plot.

    No, no, no.  Birchers were Anti-Communist nuts who believed that Ike was a tool of the Communists.  

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  5. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    You miss the context of the term “drive a stake through the heart.”

    Gary, nobody doesn’t know that.

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  6. Hang On Member
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    Americans died because Trump turned wearing masks into a political issue rather than a matter of common sense.

    Common sense suggests that wearing a cloth mask that’s not airtight would offer little protection against a tiny, airborne virus. Common sense suggests that asymptomatic people don’t usually spread diseases. Common sense suggests that you only need to wear a mask if you are sick and coughing or sneezing, and if so, you should probably just stay home.

    Of course, common sense can be wrong sometimes.

    1. A cloth mask doesn’t protect the wearer much if at all. It does keep some particles out of the air if the person wearing the mask sneezes.
    2. Asymptomatic people don’t usually spread diseases, but we’ve learned that they can spread COVID19.
    3. We finally have masks available that are much better than cloth masks in protecting the wearer – no thanks to Trump.* Disposable masks and cloth masks with filters do protect wearers and a combination of face shields with masks work quite well.

    *https://www.econlib.org/impoverishing-economic-illiteracy/
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/one-reason-ppe-gloves-are-hard-to-buy-china-tariffs-51586944801

     

    Glad it had nothing to do with overseas Chinese to buy up supplies of PPE on the orders of the CCP while the CCP was denying human-to-human transmission followed by China refusing to export – nothing to do with tariffs. It is people like you with a ‘free trade’ über alles that China has such a monopoly. But you will undoubtedly persist in your suicidal stupidity talking about ‘free market’ economics. 

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Dup

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  8. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    , but we simply have to be able to forgive each other if this nation is going to survive. There was more brotherly feeling after the Civil War in this country than between some quarters in America right now.

    No I will not forgive many Americans unless they admit to their wrongs.

    I will not forgive someone who keeps saying I am a member of a cult and a racist.

    Never. Never. Never.

    If we are going into the fire, I will not go gently into the night.

    I, for one, have never said that you are a racist, nor do I believe that you are a racist.

    You are clearly saying I am a member of a cult, because you don’t deny that!

    No, I said that Trump was trying to create a “Cult of Personality” which I believe, which is distinct from accusing someone who likes Trump from being a “cultist.” However, the Mods have counseled me to not say that as it implies that supporters of Trump are all cultists. I have acceded to their request.

    Now that you are hopefully clear that I am not accusing you to be part of the “Q-Anon Cult” or the “Jonestown Cult,” let’s discuss the phrase “Cult of Personality,” I refer to Nikita Khrushchev’s 1956 “Secret Speech” to the 20th Party Congress, where Khrushchev pointed to how Stalin had overwhelmed the party into idolatry of himself.

    I hope that I have clarified this issue for you. It is possible you are suffering from GDS (Gary Derangement Syndrome) and I urge you to be aware of that possibility.

    All my personal best,

    Gary

    You use the phrase, “Tumpist” quite a bit, and you have talked about people being in a cult of personality before. The above is a lie, because the posts are there.

    So, no clarification, Gary.

    Yes, and you continue to be obtuse about the distinctions that I am drawing.  I am a lawyer.  I try hard to use precise language.  I am not responsible that you have conflated doggone near everything that I say to fit your world view.  

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  9. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I believe that Trump and Trumpism need to be driven out of the Republican Party, just as the Bill Buckley exiled the John Birch Society.

    And you are very bad at dealing with how it came to this. The issues that caused this aren’t going to change.

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I remember talking to another attorney who had just witnessed a car accident. Instead of going immediately to compassion, she started to think about who would be liable for the accident. It is an occupational hazard. And it is what it is.

    I am going to offer you an amateur opinion. You argue all the time like you are defending a client. You would be better off just making a regular argument addressing what people say about your data and facts.

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  11. Gary Robbins Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    You miss the context of the term “drive a stake through the heart.”

    Gary, nobody doesn’t know that.

    Actually, I think that I was accused of seeking Trump’s literal murder in the comments in this post.  Like Trump, I am a counter-puncher, and will defend myself when someone attacks me.

    But we are getting far, far away from the purpose of this post, which was to talk about President Trump and Melania having the COVID-19 virus.

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  12. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Buckpasser (View Comment):
    Last time I checked my watch this was still the United States of America!!

    This is sort of off topic, but I’m listening to The Splendid and the Vile now.  Churchill uses the plural when he refers to the United States.

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I remember talking to another attorney who had just witnessed a car accident. Instead of going immediately to compassion, she started to think about who would be liable for the accident. It is an occupational hazard. And it is what it is.

    I am going to offer you an amateur opinion. You argue all the time like you are defending a client. You would be better off just making a regular argument addressing what people say about your data and facts.

    Probably so.  I feel badly that so much of the comments in this post have gone down the rabbit hole of responding to my analytical statement, and then the question of if I have called people racists.  

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  14. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    A lawyer, a minister and an engineer were to be guillotined.

    The lawyer probably deserved it.

    • #284
  15. Gary Robbins Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):
    Last time I checked my watch this was still the United States of America!!

    This is sort of off topic, but I’m listening to The Splendid and the Vile now. Churchill uses the plural when he refers to the United States.

    The best book I have read this year.  https://ricochet.com/790562/the-splendid-and-the-vile/

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  16. Django Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    A lawyer, a minister and an engineer were to be guillotined.

    The lawyer probably deserved it.

    A great hypothetical regarding Lawyers: If you woke up at the resort, walked out on the balcony, and saw your wife and her divorce lawyer drowning in the pool, and you could save only one, would you go ahead and order breakfast or read the paper first? 

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  17. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I think that it is appropriate that the Q-Anon folks be run out of the Republican Party.

    Do we actually know how big of a problem this is?

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  18. Gary Robbins Member
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    I just read that President Trump will be hospitalized at Walter Reed for a couple of days while tests are run.  https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgxwJZJVJRlNDbTbfjjXFSPnHKDvf

    Can we all agree to pray for his good health and for our country?

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  19. Randy Webster Inactive
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    thelonious (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    , but we simply have to be able to forgive each other if this nation is going to survive. There was more brotherly feeling after the Civil War in this country than between some quarters in America right now.

    No I will not forgive many Americans unless they admit to their wrongs.

    I will not forgive someone who keeps saying I am a member of a cult and a racist.

    Never. Never. Never.

    If we are going into the fire, I will not go gently into the night.

    What are your wrongs and will you admit to them?

    Lol.  I’ve not ever been in a position to commit any wrongs.

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  20. Flicker Coolidge
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    Ekosj (View Comment):
    while the virus itself is small enough to pass through a mask (insert quip about mosquitos and chain link fence here) that is only relevant if the virus is itself free floating as an aerosol

    When you mask is moist, the fluid condensate is a liquid and acts as a transport vector for the virus to cross the porous fiber of the mask, and to blow out into the atmosphere when you exhale, and suck into your lungs when you inhale.  Masks that are used for more than a few minutes and are moist and must be considered contaminated, and, certainly when wet, they are no barrier protection at all.  in fact they may just as easily concentrate the virus in the material.  IF, that is, THERE IS ANY VIRUS in the AIR to even worry about.

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  21. Bob W Member
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

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    Django (View Comment):
    People seem to have forgotten the common sense uttered early on. Masks don’t protect you; they protect others from you. One should assume he is infected and show enough consideration for others to wear the mask. That’s how masks work, if at all.

    How well do they do that if the virus is small enough to travel through the mask?

     

    I don’t know. It does not hurt to say so.

    My understanding is that while the virus itself is small enough to pass through a mask (insert quip about mosquitos and chain link fence here) that is only relevant if the virus is itself free floating as an aerosol. While scientists have aerosolized the virus under laboratory conditions, there isn’t much evidence that it exists as an aerosol in the wild. It seems that, in the wild, the virus is suspended within saliva and mucus droplets. These droplets are large enough to be caught in a mask and don’t travel very far before falling out of the air. Hence the social distancing. There is a nice study from Duke university showing that many masks, even the double layer home made ones, do an excellent job of containing those droplets.

     

    https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083

    Bandanas…not so much. And those stretchy neck-gaiters are worse than no mask at all in that they don’t stop expelled droplets and shred large droplets (that would fall out of the air quickly) into many smaller ones that can hang in the air longer.

    Even if it’s an aerosol I think the virus is still inside a droplet, albeit a microscopic droplet. The virus never floats entirely free by itself. So masks could have some effect even in the case of an aerosol. 

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  22. RufusRJones Member
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    The mask topic is very easy. They don’t know how well it works as a public health intervention. They have no idea. Masks should probably be worn in some risky situations. That’s it.

    Supposedly, there is a huge Scandinavian study on the efficacy of masks as a public health intervention that is overdue. 

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  23. Bob Thompson Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Folks, let’s just wish President Trump and his wife well.

    It’s really too late for you to do that now because you essentially already wished him ill(er) with your Pence-Haley comment.

    This is who you have allowed yourself to become.

    Yes, but we simply have to be able to forgive each other if this nation is going to survive. There was more brotherly feeling after the Civil War in this country than between some quarters in America right now.

    I’m hoping to open Gary’s eyes to the wickedness of wishing the Left on us patriots, Christians, Jews, immigrants who are fugitives from communism. . . I will be happy to forgive him — delighted, actually — if he acknowledges that his anti-Trumpism is de facto support for the terrorists on our streets ruining peoples’ lives and livelihoods. This election isn’t about Trump. It’s about America-lovers versus America-haters. Choose a side.

    I didn’t want to get on this thread, but this comment is so on point that I can’t help myself. Most here wish Trump were a lot better than he is, mostly just as it relates to his personal behaviors not his professional performance. For Joe Biden, many think he could be much worse, although that might be doubtful with regard to his professional performance. But where we are is not about Trump or Biden, it is a confrontation between the sides named above and President Trump and former Vice-President Biden are representing and leading these opposing sides. Trump supporters are supporting the direction he is taking us, too much gets made of it being about him, it’s not.

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  24. EHerring Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    He could have worn a mask more frequently and he could have taken social distancing more seriously.

    And you could know when to quit.

    And you could learn to accept the truth without trying to shout it down.

    Great. Prove, then, that he got it because he didn’t wear a mask or social-distance enough. If that’s the “truth” then prove it.

    My sister-in-law wore a mask every time she went out in public. She lives surrounded by miles and miles of state forest so she is naturally socially-distant from everyone. Tell me how she got it. She doesn’t know, but since you’re so smart, you must know the truth.

    Mask-shaming is awful. It’s like a cult.

    Americans died because Trump turned wearing masks into a political issue rather than a matter of common sense.

    Do you know that?

    He may “know” it, but that doesn’t make it true.

    As Reagan said, “The problem with our friends on the left is not that they are ignorant, it’s that they know so much that isn’t so.”

    Masks rules were determined by each state, not by what Trump did or didn’t do. 

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    The U.S. Surgeon General hammers us with mask commercials every day in Minnesota.

    I think it’s about time that every level of government put on a dog and pony show about why they think it changes the R0. This isn’t too much to ask.

     

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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    EHerring (View Comment):
    Masks rules were determined by each state, not by what Trump did or didn’t do. 

    So many want him to be the tyrant they imagine him to be and impose national mask mandates and lockdowns. But he seems to understand Federalism.

    Unlike Joe Biden who has said he’ll impose tyrannical mandates . . . “to thunderous applause.”

    So . . . projection from the left again.

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  27. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I remember talking to another attorney who had just witnessed a car accident. Instead of going immediately to compassion, she started to think about who would be liable for the accident. It is an occupational hazard. And it is what it is.

    I am going to offer you an amateur opinion. You argue all the time like you are defending a client. You would be better off just making a regular argument addressing what people say about your data and facts.

    Probably so. I feel badly that so much of the comments in this post have gone down the rabbit hole of responding to my analytical statement, and then the question of if I have called people racists.

    I dont believe you.

    And, using your standards for Trump, I maintain you are calling people racist and cultists. 

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  28. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I just read that President Trump will be hospitalized at Walter Reed for a couple of days while tests are run. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgxwJZJVJRlNDbTbfjjXFSPnHKDvf

    Can we all agree to pray for his good health and for our country?

    You want to destroy the nation by voting for Biden. You don’t want its good health, you want its utter destruction. 

    Further, you rooted for Trump to die with your Pence fantasy.

    Again, using you value set on judgment of what people say. 

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    Roderic (View Comment):

    Left wingers: “YEAH! Trump got the COVID. He’s gonna DIE.”

    Micheal Moore: “Wait a minute. He could be faking it.”

    I kid you not.

    Add Michael Moore to the list of left wingers whose minds have been broken by Trump.

    His was broken long before Trump.

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  30. TBA Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    You miss the context of the term “drive a stake through the heart.”

    Gary, nobody doesn’t know that.

    Actually, I think that I was accused of seeking Trump’s literal murder in the comments in this post. Like Trump, I am a counter-puncher, and will defend myself when someone attacks me.

    But we are getting far, far away from the purpose of this post, which was to talk about President Trump and Melania having the COVID-19 virus.

    Counter-punchers are more violent than table-pounders. 

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