Trump, Melania Test Positive for COVID-19

 

President Trump took to Twitter just before 1 a.m. ET to announce that both he and the First Lady tested positive for COVID-19.

Sean Conley, the Physician to the President, released the following statement:

I release the following information with the permission of President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump.

This evening I received confirmation that both President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The President and the First Lady are both well at this time and they plan to remain at home within the White House during their convalescence.

The White House medical team and I will maintain a vigilant watch, and I appreciate the support provided by some of our country’s greatest medical professionals and institutions. Rest assured I expect the President to continue carrying out his duties without disruption while recovering, and I will keep you updated on any future developments.

Get well soon, President and First Lady!

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  1. Gary Robbins Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    carcat74 (View Comment):

    I’ve never ‘flagged’ anyone, until today. I flagged TWO comments in the first page! Come on, people—let’s not become Twitter!

    I’d prefer those comments stayed. Are they sickening? Yes. Let’s not bail out the individuals who expressed them.

    One member has made over 20 comments on this post. That is a bit excessive.

    Gary, if anything I’ve been sympathetic to the hard time you receive on this site. That is not to say I haven’t disagreed with you, but I don’t recall making a comment that directly addressed you. I am not sympathetic today, though your first comment is downright innocent compared to one that follows shortly after from another member. This post seems like an appropriate place for well wishes, not expressions of support for potential replacement tickets.

    It is difficult, given all your past statements, not to read a hopeful tone into your comment. That is not fair to you. I’ll simply opine that your initial comment was not in good taste and express my hope it did not reflect your first impulse upon hearing the news.

    I was thinking like a “lawyer” who dissects situations instead as a “person” who expresses messages of condolences like Rachel Maddow, of all people did. I am sorry for the kerfuffle that I created.

    Often when a client asks my opinion of how to react to a situation, I will say “Well, as a lawyer, my response would be [how to wipe out the other side], but as a person, my response would be [how to have compassion for your spouse who you once loved]. Usually when I put it that way, the client will listen to their better angels. At the same time, I have avoided committing malpractice.

    Gary, you can’t excuse your behavior by being a lawyer.

    You have ended your comments too many times by desiring to drive “a stake through Trump’s chest”. You read that he was positive for covid and you immediately relished thinking this was the stake that was finally going to kill him.

    It would have been more appropriate for him to apologize for the statement rather than be sorry for the reaction it generated, but for the good of ricochet, let’s just let it slide.

    I think that you missed my point.  An apology is not appropriate as what I said was insensitive, not wrong in and of itself.  And I am sorry that I created such a kerfuffle.  

    I remember talking to another attorney who had just witnessed a car accident.  Instead of going immediately to compassion, she started to think about who would be liable for the accident.  It is an occupational hazard.  And it is what it is.  

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  2. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    My memory goes waaaaaay back to the Tuesday debate, when Trump mocked Biden for wearing a mask.

    200 feet away alone in a field.   Do you remember that part?

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  3. EB Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):

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    thelonious (View Comment):
    To be fair to hydroxychloroquine. Trump probably misunderstood on how to use it as a prophylactic.

    I doubt his doctors did.

    I think there was meant to be a crude double entendre in his remark.

    Hard to know these days.  I’m getting sick to death of all the $#!+ floating around.  And joking about the subject of someone contracting COVID is grating.

    All the scare stuff about hydroxychloroquine is so absurd. It’s been around for YEARS.  When my husband travelled to Africa for work, he took it as a malaria prophylactic, it’s used to treat lupus, etc.  It’s not the only treatment, it’s “A” treatment. The only reason it has been pilloried is because Trump mentioned it and used it.  Another reason that he should have limited his pronouncements about COVID.  But that’s never going to happen.

    I just pray he has a light case and recovers.

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  4. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Folks, let’s just wish President Trump and his wife well.

    It’s really too late for you to do that now because you essentially already wished him ill(er) with your Pence-Haley comment.

    This is who you have allowed yourself to become.

    Yes, but we simply have to be able to forgive each other if this nation is going to survive. There was more brotherly feeling after the Civil War in this country than between some quarters in America right now. 

    I’m hoping to open Gary’s eyes to the wickedness of wishing the Left on us patriots, Christians, Jews, immigrants who are fugitives from communism. . . I will be happy to forgive him — delighted, actually — if he acknowledges that his anti-Trumpism is de facto support for the terrorists on our streets ruining peoples’ lives and livelihoods. This election isn’t about Trump. It’s about America-lovers versus America-haters. Choose a side.

    • #184
  5. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    My memory goes waaaaaay back to the Tuesday debate, when Trump mocked Biden for wearing a mask.

    200 feet away alone in a field. Do you remember that part?

    I remember that.  I also remember the whole quote:
    “I don’t wear masks like him. Every time you see him he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from anybody, he’s got the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

    Here’s a link to the clip.

    The “200 feet” was typical Trump exaggeration.  The point is, that he was mocking Biden for being careful.

    Trump refused to wear a mask at all during the first three or four months of the pandemic.  Biden’s not much, but at least he’s trying to set a good example – something that Trump, as the President of the United States, should have been doing as soon as we knew that they made a difference.

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  6. EB Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    carcat74 (View Comment):

    I’ve never ‘flagged’ anyone, until today. I flagged TWO comments in the first page! Come on, people—let’s not become Twitter!

    I’d prefer those comments stayed. Are they sickening? Yes. Let’s not bail out the individuals who expressed them.

    One member has made over 20 comments on this post. That is a bit excessive.

    Pot, meet Kettle.

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  7. Buckpasser Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    He could have worn a mask more frequently and he could have taken social distancing more seriously.

    And you could know when to quit.

    And you could learn to accept the truth without trying to shout it down.

    Great. Prove, then, that he got it because he didn’t wear a mask or social-distance enough. If that’s the “truth” then prove it.

    My sister-in-law wore a mask every time she went out in public. She lives surrounded by miles and miles of state forest so she is naturally socially-distant from everyone. Tell me how she got it. She doesn’t know, but since you’re so smart, you must know the truth.

    Mask-shaming is awful. It’s like a cult.

    Masking is a neurotic health cult. Watch people look at you on the street, even while you’re wearing a mask, and they dodge out of the way. Weird.

    I guess it’s official now.  If Biden (or whoever that is) should win I will have to wear a rag….I mean a mask for the rest of my life. The government will not allow me to take it off.  However, we still have time to change this.  

    Last time I checked my watch this was still the United States of America!!

    • #187
  8. Roderic Coolidge
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    It’s shockingly hard to find good numbers for death-rate by age for Covid. Everything I’m finding is either just raw numbers or is expressed as “X times greater than” some other group, rather than “X% of positive cases in that group“

    I’m seeing these numbers for fatalities among males by age group-

    under 1. 13

    1-4. 7

    5-14. 22

    15-24. 223

    25-34. 1003

    35-44. 2698

    45-54. 7063

    55-64. 16057

    65-74. 25722

    75-84. 28239

    85+. 23239

    total male fatalities. 104896

     

    So about 75% of all fatalities among men are in the over 65 cohort.

    But I’m not finding case data by age group. If we could find that we could calculate it ourselves.

    The case fatality rate for COVID-19 infected people age 60 to 79 is currently about 3% in Germany.  It’s probably similar in the US.

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    I heard Limbaugh say that 30% of Americans polled believed that a Covid-19 diagnosis was pretty much the same as a death sentence. It true, and it’s hard to believe, I admit, what effect will it have on society if Trump suffers nothing more serious in symptoms than what a bad cold would cause? Trump is in a risky age group and a public recovery should be a boost to national morale. Except for a few lunatics, that is.

    Like those who believe that George HW Bush made secret flights to/from Europe in an SR-71 “Blackbird” spy plane, I expect there will be claims that Trump didn’t really survive COVID, y’see, what REALLY happened is that his memories were transferred to a clone body…

    That’s Biden, actually.

    Who makes a clone that’s just as bad as the original?

    The left, I suppose…

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  10. Jason Rudert Inactive
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    If President Trump dies of COVID, will he still relinquish the office? Over to you, Don Lemon…

    • #190
  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I remember talking to another attorney who had just witnessed a car accident. Instead of going immediately to compassion, she started to think about who would be liable for the accident. It is an occupational hazard. And it is what it is.

    My immediate reaction is always to call 911.  Even an attorney should be able to do that.

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  12. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    These people.

    How can Democrats be running the “Trump ist Russian Stooge!” garbage . . . still!

     

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    An analogy.  

    A lawyer, a minister and an engineer were to be guillotined.  

    The lawyer was to be executed first.  The lanyard was pulled but nothing happened.  The lawyer said “You were only given one chance to execute me, so I must go free.”

    The minister was next.  The lanyard was pulled but nothing happened.  The minister said “Thanks be to God!”

    While the engineer was being led to the guillotine, he interjected, “If you will notice the screw at the top of the guillotine has come loose, and is blocking the blade.”

    Engineers got to solve problems.  Lawyers got to do cold-blooded analysis.

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  14. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Folks, let’s just wish President Trump and his wife well.

    It’s really too late for you to do that now because you essentially already wished him ill(er) with your Pence-Haley comment.

    This is who you have allowed yourself to become.

    Yes, but we simply have to be able to forgive each other if this nation is going to survive. There was more brotherly feeling after the Civil War in this country than between some quarters in America right now.

    I’m hoping to open Gary’s eyes to the wickedness of wishing the Left on us patriots, Christians, Jews, immigrants who are fugitives from communism. . . I will be happy to forgive him — delighted, actually — if he acknowledges that his anti-Trumpism is de facto support for the terrorists on our streets ruining peoples’ lives and livelihoods. This election isn’t about Trump. It’s about America-lovers versus America-haters. Choose a side.

    You’re not helping.

    • #194
  15. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    Americans died because Trump turned wearing masks into a political issue rather than a matter of common sense.

    Common sense suggests that wearing a cloth mask that’s not airtight would offer little protection against a tiny, airborne virus.  Common sense suggests that asymptomatic people don’t usually spread diseases.  Common sense suggests that you only need to wear a mask if you are sick and coughing or sneezing, and if so, you should probably just stay home.

    Of course, common sense can be wrong sometimes.

    • #195
  16. TBA Coolidge
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    My memory goes waaaaaay back to the Tuesday debate, when Trump mocked Biden for wearing a mask.

    200 feet away alone in a field. Do you remember that part?

    I remember that. I also remember the whole quote:
    “I don’t wear masks like him. Every time you see him he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from anybody, he’s got the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

    Here’s a link to the clip.

    The “200 feet” was typical Trump exaggeration. The point is, that he was mocking Biden for being careful.

    Trump refused to wear a mask at all during the first three or four months of the pandemic. Biden’s not much, but at least he’s trying to set a good example – something that Trump, as the President of the United States, should have been doing as soon as we knew that they made a difference.

    This Joe Biden? 

    Biden wears a black Make America Mask Again face covering to promote his candidacy, to court and promote the fear vote, not to aid public health. 

    • #196
  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    Another analogy.

    In the 1988 Presidential Debates, Bernard Shaw began by asking Michael Dukakis if he would oppose the death penalty if his wife Kitty were raped and murdered.  

    A normal human being would exclaim “What!  How would I feel if my wife were raped and murdered!  I would rip him apart with my own hands”

    Michael Dukakis is a lawyer.  He answered the exact question before him, coldly and dispassionately.  Dukakis lost the debate and later the election.  

    For better or worse, lawyers are trained in law school and in the courtroom to not react emotionally but dispassionately.   If you are ever wrongly accused of a crime, or wrongly accused of abusing your children, you will be very, very grateful that that is our training.  But, it sometimes gets us in trouble when faced with an issue where everyone else is reacting with heartfelt emotions and we are reacting as a CPA.

    • #197
  18. Django Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    These people.

    How can Democrats be running the “Trump ist Russian Stooge!” garbage . . . still!

     

    Simple explanation: One can’t be cured of vile and stupid. 

    Alternative explanation: They really believe the voters are that vile and stupid. Enough of them to elect Democrats, anyway. 

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  19. Flicker Coolidge
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    Buckpasser (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    He could have worn a mask more frequently and he could have taken social distancing more seriously.

    And you could know when to quit.

    And you could learn to accept the truth without trying to shout it down.

    Great. Prove, then, that he got it because he didn’t wear a mask or social-distance enough. If that’s the “truth” then prove it.

    My sister-in-law wore a mask every time she went out in public. She lives surrounded by miles and miles of state forest so she is naturally socially-distant from everyone. Tell me how she got it. She doesn’t know, but since you’re so smart, you must know the truth.

    Mask-shaming is awful. It’s like a cult.

    Masking is a neurotic health cult. Watch people look at you on the street, even while you’re wearing a mask, and they dodge out of the way. Weird.

    I guess it’s official now. If Biden (or whoever that is) should win I will have to wear a rag….I mean a mask for the rest of my life. The government will not allow me to take it off. However, we still have time to change this.

    Last time I checked my watch this was still the United States of America!!

    Maybe I shouldn’t have used the word neurotic.  But I do think that mask wearing is largely ineffectual play acting.  Maybe ten percent of people I see wearing masks don’t cover their noses.  Everyone — in the Press corps and in my public view — touches his mask frequently, then his pen or he taps his phone.  And you can tell by the masks that they are brand new and clean, have not been worn for hours.  For me, they cut off fresh cool air and every ten minutes I have to pull out the chin so I can take several deep breaths.  And they get soaked in ten or fifteen minutes, so that when I readjust it, it makes my fingers wet with whatever I’ve been breathing.  And the seals around the mouth and chin are not hermetic, they are crude and cursory.

    Masks stop sneezes and perhaps coughs, but not breathed air from circulating in the store’s or the room’s air.  This air is what the next person breathes even if they are ten seconds behind me in the aisle or in the next cubicle.  And the masks’ perforations are big enough to let virus bodies through, and catch only droplets; but if the mask is saturated then the viri flow through, especially if you are touching and pulling on it to readjust it.

    In the hospital, mask are thrown away after each brief use and do what they were designed for.  This is not done by the public.

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  20. Django Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    He could have worn a mask more frequently and he could have taken social distancing more seriously.

    And you could know when to quit.

    And you could learn to accept the truth without trying to shout it down.

     

    Mask-shaming is awful. It’s like a cult.

    Masking is a neurotic health cult. Watch people look at you on the street, even while you’re wearing a mask, and they dodge out of the way. Weird.

    I guess it’s official now. If Biden (or whoever that is) should win I will have to wear a rag….I mean a mask for the rest of my life. The government will not allow me to take it off. However, we still have time to change this.

    Last time I checked my watch this was still the United States of America!!

    Maybe I shouldn’t have used the word neurotic. But I do think that mask wearing is largely ineffectual play acting. Maybe ten percent of people I see wearing masks don’t cover their noses. Everyone — in the Press corps and in my public view — touches his mask frequently, then his pen or he taps his phone. And you can tell by the masks that they are brand new and clean, have not been worn for hours. For me, they cut off fresh cool air and every ten minutes I have to pull out the chin so I can take several deep breaths. And they get soaked in ten or fifteen minutes, so that when I readjust it, it makes my fingers wet with whatever I’ve been breathing. And the seals around the mouth and chin are not hermetic, they are crude and cursory.

    Masks stop sneezes and perhaps coughs, but not breathed air from circulating in the store’s or the room’s air. This air is what the next person breathes even if they are ten seconds behind me in the aisle or in the next cubicle. And the masks’ perforations are big enough to let virus bodies through, and catch only droplets; but if the mask is saturated then the viri flow through, especially if you are touching and pulling on it to readjust it.

    In the hospital, mask are thrown away after each brief use and do what they were designed for. This is not done by the public.

    People seem to have forgotten the common sense uttered early on. Masks don’t protect you; they protect others from you. One should assume he is infected and show enough consideration for others to wear the mask. That’s how masks work, if at all. 

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  21. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    These people.

    How can Democrats be running the “Trump ist Russian Stooge!” garbage . . . still!

    Simple explanation: One can’t be cured of vile and stupid.

    Alternative explanation: They really believe the voters are that vile and stupid. Enough of them to elect Democrats, anyway.

    Well, Murphy is a Connecticut Senator. They also keep sending Blumenthal back to the Senate.

    But, I mean, pundits are vile and stupid, so I expect that sort of talk from them. When Senators say these sorts of things, it is injurious to the health of the nation.

    They know that. They don’t care.

    I am reminded of Jadis of Charn, ruling over a world that she utterly destroyed.

    • #201
  22. Flicker Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Django (View Comment):

    I heard Limbaugh say that 30% of Americans polled believed that a Covid-19 diagnosis was pretty much the same as a death sentence. It true, and it’s hard to believe, I admit, what effect will it have on society if Trump suffers nothing more serious in symptoms than what a bad cold would cause? Trump is in a risky age group and a public recovery should be a boost to national morale. Except for a few lunatics, that is.

    Like those who believe that George HW Bush made secret flights to/from Europe in an SR-71 “Blackbird” spy plane, I expect there will be claims that Trump didn’t really survive COVID, y’see, what REALLY happened is that his memories were transferred to a clone body…

    That’s Biden, actually.

    Who makes a clone that’s just as bad as the original?

    The left, I suppose…

    Oh.  Sorry.  I meant Biden is a robot.  Clones are identical and just as bad as the original.

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  23. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):
    You’re not helping.

    Really? You don’t believe the Left and Democrats (but, I repeat) hate America and us deplorables? How could they not? The country was founded on racism and slavery, our capitalist system exploits workers, we’re imperialists, imposing our will on other countries, we want to take away a woman’s “right” to choose whether her offspring lives or dies. . . We are the very definition of evil. I would hate America if I believed what the Left believes.

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  24. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    Django (View Comment):
    People seem to have forgotten the common sense uttered early on. Masks don’t protect you; they protect others from you. One should assume he is infected and show enough consideration for others to wear the mask. That’s how masks work, if at all. 

    I was going to say. Which is to also say that those taunting the President for getting COVID by not wearing a mask — it’s actually someone in his vicinity who didn’t wear a mask. But those who hate the President are going to say it’s his fault anyway. See above.

    • #204
  25. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    carcat74 (View Comment):

    I’ve never ‘flagged’ anyone, until today. I flagged TWO comments in the first page! Come on, people—let’s not become Twitter!

    I’d prefer those comments stayed. Are they sickening? Yes. Let’s not bail out the individuals who expressed them.

    One member has made over 20 comments on this post. That is a bit excessive.

    Gary, if anything I’ve been sympathetic to the hard time you receive on this site. That is not to say I haven’t disagreed with you, but I don’t recall making a comment that directly addressed you. I am not sympathetic today, though your first comment is downright innocent compared to one that follows shortly after from another member. This post seems like an appropriate place for well wishes, not expressions of support for potential replacement tickets.

    It is difficult, given all your past statements, not to read a hopeful tone into your comment. That is not fair to you. I’ll simply opine that your initial comment was not in good taste and express my hope it did not reflect your first impulse upon hearing the news.

    I was thinking like a “lawyer” who dissects situations instead as a “person” who expresses messages of condolences like Rachel Maddow, of all people did. I am sorry for the kerfuffle that I created.

    Often when a client asks my opinion of how to react to a situation, I will say “Well, as a lawyer, my response would be [how to wipe out the other side], but as a person, my response would be [how to have compassion for your spouse who you once loved]. Usually when I put it that way, the client will listen to their better angels. At the same time, I have avoided committing malpractice.

    You don’t seem able to think like a lawyer when it comes to Trump. 

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  26. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    Americans died because Trump turned wearing masks into a political issue rather than a matter of common sense.

    Common sense suggests that wearing a cloth mask that’s not airtight would offer little protection against a tiny, airborne virus. Common sense suggests that asymptomatic people don’t usually spread diseases. Common sense suggests that you only need to wear a mask if you are sick and coughing or sneezing, and if so, you should probably just stay home.

    Of course, common sense can be wrong sometimes.

    1. A cloth mask doesn’t protect the wearer much if at all.  It does keep some particles out of the air if the person wearing the mask sneezes. 
    2. Asymptomatic people don’t usually spread diseases, but we’ve learned that they can spread COVID19.
    3. We finally have masks available that are much better than cloth masks in protecting the wearer – no thanks to Trump.*  Disposable masks and cloth masks with filters do protect wearers and a combination of face shields with masks work quite well.

    *https://www.econlib.org/impoverishing-economic-illiteracy/
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/one-reason-ppe-gloves-are-hard-to-buy-china-tariffs-51586944801

     

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  27. Flicker Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):
    Masks don’t protect you; they protect others from you.

    That’s what I’m taking about.

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  28. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    carcat74 (View Comment):

    I’ve never ‘flagged’ anyone, until today. I flagged TWO comments in the first page! Come on, people—let’s not become Twitter!

    I’d prefer those comments stayed. Are they sickening? Yes. Let’s not bail out the individuals who expressed them.

    One member has made over 20 comments on this post. That is a bit excessive.

    Gary, if anything I’ve been sympathetic to the hard time you receive on this site. That is not to say I haven’t disagreed with you, but I don’t recall making a comment that directly addressed you. I am not sympathetic today, though your first comment is downright innocent compared to one that follows shortly after from another member. This post seems like an appropriate place for well wishes, not expressions of support for potential replacement tickets.

    It is difficult, given all your past statements, not to read a hopeful tone into your comment. That is not fair to you. I’ll simply opine that your initial comment was not in good taste and express my hope it did not reflect your first impulse upon hearing the news.

    I was thinking like a “lawyer” who dissects situations instead as a “person” who expresses messages of condolences like Rachel Maddow, of all people did. I am sorry for the kerfuffle that I created.

    Often when a client asks my opinion of how to react to a situation, I will say “Well, as a lawyer, my response would be [how to wipe out the other side], but as a person, my response would be [how to have compassion for your spouse who you once loved]. Usually when I put it that way, the client will listen to their better angels. At the same time, I have avoided committing malpractice.

    Gary, you can’t excuse your behavior by being a lawyer.

    You have ended your comments too many times by desiring to drive “a stake through Trump’s chest”. You read that he was positive for covid and you immediately relished thinking this was the stake that was finally going to kill him.

    No, no, no. I have never wished for Trump to literally die. Trump is a beloved Child of God, and a sentient human being.

    You miss the context of the term “drive a stake through the heart.” In classic European folklore, the only way to kill a vampire, or to prevent a corpse from becoming a vampire, is to drive a wooden stake through their heart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_in_myth_and_art#:~:text=Vampires%20and%20other%20undead,-The%20idea%20that&text=In%20classic%20European%20folklore%2C%20it,and%20was%20buried%20in%201656.

    I believe that Trump and Trumpism need to be driven out of the Republican Party, just as the Bill Buckley exiled the John Birch Society. That is what I mean by driving a wooden stake through the heart of Trump and Trumpism.

    I believe that people like you need to be driven out of the Republican party because you keep calling us racist.

    Yet again, we see the COC does not apply to you. 

     

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  29. Richard Fulmer Inactive
    Richard Fulmer
    @RichardFulmer

    Flicker (View Comment):
    In the hospital, mask are thrown away after each brief use and do what they were designed for. This is not done by the public.

    Right, because Trump’s policies made it all but impossible to obtain throw away masks for the first five months of the pandemic:

    https://www.econlib.org/impoverishing-economic-illiteracy/

    https://www.barrons.com/articles/one-reason-ppe-gloves-are-hard-to-buy-china-tariffs-51586944801

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  30. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    I’m very glad that Biden has tested negative. They would have loved to lay that at Trump’s door.

    Why would he tested positive?  It’s his dirty trick.

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