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The actor who played Riff, leader of the Jets in West Side Story, put us all on notice:

Okay. I recently rewatched West Side Story, and was reminded how good he was, particularly in the dance-at-the-gym scene. He was hilarious in the third season of Twin Peaks, broadcasting madman diatribes from a trailer in the woods, and his long, crazy, irrelevant story had a sweet ending. It’s still maddening that Twin Peaks also featured Richard Beymer, and the third season didn’t find a way to bring them together, if only to look at each other and grin and snap their fingers.

He’s 85. This is Asner-level bluster. But:

Nothing?

Assassination?

Well no obviously that’s not on the table

Okay so some things are off the table. What, then, remains on the table? Burning down cities in protest? Unchecked riots? How about a strategic bombing of the Senate to get everyone’s attention?

Well no those are extreme measures

So what do you mean? Would it be too much to ask what, exactly, can be found on your table?

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  1. Arahant Member

    James Lileks: The actor who played Riff, leader of the Jets in West Side Story, put us all on notice:

    Gideon from Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. He’s still alive?

    • #1
    • September 19, 2020, at 10:28 PM PDT
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  2. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    The left’s answer to everything is violence. Violence on the right is almost non-existent, for good reason. The left would be stomped out real quick if the right retaliated.

    Until then, they’ll burn down their own leftist slums. More of the same.

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    • September 19, 2020, at 10:29 PM PDT
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  3. Architectus Coolidge

    Assassination? They have already tried that at the softball practice in WDC. Burning down cities and relentless rioting? Done and done (and still in progress). Leaving town to prevent a quorum for voting? Check! Not sure that there are any unused radical arrows in their quiver. 

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    • September 19, 2020, at 10:30 PM PDT
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  4. Arahant Member

    James Lileks:

    Nothing?

    Assassination? 

    Well no obviously that’s not on the table

    Okay so some things are off the table. What, then, remains on the table? Burning down cities in protest? Unchecked riots? How about a strategic bombing of the Senate to get everyone’s attention?

    Well no those are extreme measures

    So what do you mean? Would it be too much to ask what, exactly, can be found on your table?

    Have you asked Blumenthal this and gotten replies? I’d like to see him say that assassination and bombings are off the table?

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    • September 19, 2020, at 10:30 PM PDT
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  5. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVeyJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Don’t be too tough on the guy. He and I had the same dentist for a decade or so. 

    Yes, in Hollywood, that’s a good enough reason. 

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    • September 19, 2020, at 10:35 PM PDT
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  6. Arahant Member

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Don’t be too tough on the guy. He and I had the same dentist for a decade or so.

    Yes, in Hollywood, that’s a good enough reason.

    Tamblyn or Blumenthal?

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    • September 19, 2020, at 10:36 PM PDT
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  7. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVeyJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Don’t be too tough on the guy. He and I had the same dentist for a decade or so.

    Yes, in Hollywood, that’s a good enough reason.

    Tamblyn or Blumenthal?

    Tamblyn. I saw two files lying out: Tamblyn, Russell and Tamblyn, Amber. 

    • #7
    • September 19, 2020, at 10:38 PM PDT
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  8. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    The left’s answer to everything is violence. Violence on the right is almost non-existent, for good reason. The left would be stomped out real quick if the right retaliated.

    Until then, they’ll burn down their own leftist slums. More of the same.

    But the left claims that the violence is all on the right. Have you seen Biden’s latest ad? My liberal friends have the same view. All of the violence in the cities are due to white supremacists. At best, they say there is violence from both sides. I just received a group email from one claiming that she fears violence if Trump gets elected. But no one fears violence if Biden gets elected, not even her. Yet still they persist in saying that violence is a problem of the right.

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    • September 19, 2020, at 10:41 PM PDT
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  9. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    The left’s answer to everything is violence. Violence on the right is almost non-existent, for good reason. The left would be stomped out real quick if the right retaliated.

    Until then, they’ll burn down their own leftist slums. More of the same.

    But the left claims that the violence is all on the right. Have you seen Biden’s latest ad? My liberal friends have the same view. All of the violence in the cities are due to white supremacists. At best, they say there is violence from both sides. I just received a group email from one claiming that she fears violence if Trump gets elected. But no one fears violence if Biden gets elected, not even her. Yet still they persist in saying that violence is a problem of the right.

    You should turn that back on your friends by asking them if they think that 7% of Tea Party or pro-life protests turning violent would be acceptable. Because these “mostly peaceful” protests we are seeing now are only peaceful 93% of the time based on the data. 7% violence is very high when you consider that there have been over 10,000 of these protests since May.

    The percentage of right-wing protests that turn violent is negligible.

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    • September 19, 2020, at 10:56 PM PDT
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  10. Skyler Coolidge

    James Lileks: The actor who played Riff, leader of the Jets in West Side Story, put us all on notice:

    Well, it’s a good thing he doesn’t have an army.

    • #10
    • September 19, 2020, at 11:10 PM PDT
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  11. James Lileks Contributor
    James Lileks

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Don’t be too tough on the guy. He and I had the same dentist for a decade or so.

    Yes, in Hollywood, that’s a good enough reason.

    I don’t care what he tweets, he did some great work. Work over HERE and political rants over THERE. The man has talent, and let’s all enjoy that.

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    • September 19, 2020, at 11:33 PM PDT
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  12. Gary McVey Contributor
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    James Lileks: The actor who played Riff, leader of the Jets in West Side Story, put us all on notice:

    Well, it’s a good thing he doesn’t have an army.

    Ricochet’s already raised its own army. Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for The PIT Song.

    When you’re in PIT

    You’re with us all the way

    From your first doubtful joke ’till they ban you away,

    When you’re in PIT

    You’re the swingingest thing,

    Little boy, you’re a man, little man you’re a king!

    The PIT is in gear, our cylinders are clickin’

    This year is a drear, ’cause all our politicians

    Are lousy chickens!

    Yeah! Here comes the PIT and we’re going to beat every Left blogging gang on the internet street,

    On the web logging, ever blogging street,

    Yeah!

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    • September 19, 2020, at 11:38 PM PDT
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  13. Ray Gunner Coolidge

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):
    I just received a group email from one claiming that she fears violence if Trump gets elected. But no one fears violence if Biden gets elected, not even her. Yet still they persist in saying that violence is a problem of the right.

    She says that because when the right wins, leftists get violent. So I guess it is our problem. 

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    • September 19, 2020, at 11:46 PM PDT
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  14. RufusRJones Member

     

     

     

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    • September 19, 2020, at 11:55 PM PDT
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  15. Hartmann von Aue Member

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    The left’s answer to everything is violence. Violence on the right is almost non-existent, for good reason. The left would be stomped out real quick if the right retaliated.

    Until then, they’ll burn down their own leftist slums. More of the same.

    But the left claims that the violence is all on the right. Have you seen Biden’s latest ad? My liberal friends have the same view. All of the violence in the cities are due to white supremacists. At best, they say there is violence from both sides. I just received a group email from one claiming that she fears violence if Trump gets elected. But no one fears violence if Biden gets elected, not even her. Yet still they persist in saying that violence is a problem of the right.

    What? They are actually saying this? Not just on psycho Twitter feeds but on TV ads? 

     

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    • September 20, 2020, at 12:36 AM PDT
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  16. Gary Robbins Reagan

    I predict that if there is a vote before the election which is only 45 days away, the Dems will wipe out the legislative filibuster, expand the Supreme Court, and admit DC and Puerto Rico as states. I also predict that we will lose the Senate.

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    • September 20, 2020, at 12:45 AM PDT
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  17. Vince Guerra Member

    So, by war do they mean that they go out with their guns and we go out with our guns and see who wins? Seemed like a forgone conclusion. 

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    • September 20, 2020, at 12:47 AM PDT
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  18. RufusRJones Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I predict that if there is a vote before the election which is only 45 days away, the Dems will wipe out the legislative filibuster, expand the Supreme Court, and admit DC and Puerto Rico as states. I also predict that we will lose the Senate.

    You have to take ground that can be kept. The Democrats are much better at this. I don’t see a better alternative.

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    • September 20, 2020, at 12:48 AM PDT
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  19. RufusRJones Member

     

     

     

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    • September 20, 2020, at 12:51 AM PDT
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  20. RufusRJones Member

     

     

    “…Democrats and Joe Biden have made clear they intend to challenge this election, they intend to fight the legitimacy of the election. As you know, Hillary Clinton has told Joe Biden: Under no circumstance should you concede, you should challenge this election. And we cannot have Election Day come and go with a 4-4 Court. A 4-4 Court that is equally divided cannot decide anything,” said Cruz, adding: “And I think we risk a constitutional crisis if we do not have a 9-Justice Supreme Court, particularly when there is such a risk of a contested litigation, and a contested election.”

     

    As The Daily Wire previously reported, 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton told Jennifer Palmieri, her former campaign communications director, during an interview that Biden shouldn’t concede “under any circumstances” because she believes the election will drag on. She also mentioned that Democrats will need a “massive legal operation.”

     

    Earlier this week, The New York Times reported that the Biden campaign was establishing a major legal operation with hundreds of lawyers, a move that senior Biden officials told the Times was necessary to protect the integrity of the election

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    • September 20, 2020, at 1:13 AM PDT
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  21. RufusRJones Member

     

     

     

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    • September 20, 2020, at 1:26 AM PDT
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  22. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron MillerJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Lame duck sessions effectively violate the Constitution by refusing elected representatives their full terms in office. We elect politicians to serve from election to election, not from season to season. 

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    • September 20, 2020, at 1:41 AM PDT
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  23. Doctor Robert Member

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    So, by war do they mean that they go out with their guns and we go out with our guns and see who wins? Seemed like a forgone conclusion.

    We on the right keep saying this, but it’s bullsh*t. When has there ever been a serious right wing effort to stop leftist violence with our own violence?

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    • September 20, 2020, at 2:16 AM PDT
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  24. OmegaPaladin Moderator

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    So, by war do they mean that they go out with their guns and we go out with our guns and see who wins? Seemed like a forgone conclusion.

    We on the right keep saying this, but it’s bullsh*t. When has there ever been a serious right wing effort to stop leftist violence with our own violence?

    Once you start, it is hard to stop. 

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    • September 20, 2020, at 2:46 AM PDT
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  25. Instugator Thatcher
    InstugatorJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    Lame duck sessions effectively violate the Constitution by refusing elected representatives their full terms in office. We elect politicians to serve from election to election, not from season to season.

    No we don’t. They are sworn in in January and leave in January. Elections are the choosing process, not the serving process

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    • September 20, 2020, at 3:26 AM PDT
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  26. David Carroll Thatcher
    David CarrollJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    So, by war do they mean that they go out with their guns and we go out with our guns and see who wins? Seemed like a forgone conclusion.

    Bad time for an ammo shortage in this country.

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    • September 20, 2020, at 3:32 AM PDT
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  27. Arahant Member

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    Lame duck sessions effectively violate the Constitution by refusing elected representatives their full terms in office. We elect politicians to serve from election to election, not from season to season.

    No we don’t. They are sworn in in January and leave in January. Elections are the choosing process, not the serving process

    While he mis-stated that part slightly, his point still stands. The current PotUS and Congress are all in office until next January. Saying they can’t act during those months has nothing to do with legality.

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    • September 20, 2020, at 3:40 AM PDT
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  28. David Carroll Thatcher
    David CarrollJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    Lame duck sessions effectively violate the Constitution by refusing elected representatives their full terms in office. We elect politicians to serve from election to election, not from season to season.

    No we don’t. They are sworn in in January and leave in January. Elections are the choosing process, not the serving process

    While he mis-stated that part slightly, his point still stands. The current PotUS and Congress are all in office until next January. Saying they can’t act during those months has nothing to do with legality.

    Without paper ballots and with modern technology, there is no reason why we could not have a much shorter time between election day and the newly elected taking office severely reducing the lame duck possibilities. It just takes appropriate legislation.

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    • September 20, 2020, at 3:44 AM PDT
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  29. Arahant Member

    David Carroll (View Comment):
    Without paper ballots and with modern technology, there is no reason why we could not have a much sorter time between election day and the newly elected taking office severely reducing the lame duck possibilities. It just takes appropriate legislation.

    First, my city still uses paper, and we like having them to verify things. Second, wasn’t there an election in New York that took months to count the ballots? Third, what about lawfare, as happened in Florida in 2000, among other times and places?

    Yes, as you say, it can easily be done. But do we have the will and inclination to change the law and to follow through with it?

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    • September 20, 2020, at 3:49 AM PDT
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  30. Basil Fawlty Member
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    A Thumb in the eye of the Constitution.

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    • September 20, 2020, at 4:26 AM PDT
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