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Are Never Trumpers OK with the Destruction of Evidence by Mueller’s Team?
I just don’t get it. Never Trumpers have gone on and on and on about how Mueller was on to something, but just could not prove it. Mueller did not exonerate Trump, etc.
Well.
If Mueller was that and a bag of chips, and his crew were as pure a the driven snow, how on Earth can they justify the destruction of evidence? These people all managed to “accidentally” destroy evidence. Come on.
Maybe some of our legal experts in the community could weigh in on how the destruction of evidence is a crime.
I’d love to hear from the pro-Mueller crowd on this. Y’all have been so behind this man, and still think Trump colluded with Russia to fix the election, despite no strong evidence it happened. I dare you to explain how this sort of very strong evidence of malfeasance, this criminal activity by the team doing the investigation is OK and has no bearing at all on the investigation. Because my belief is that anyone investigator that destroys evidence is an investigator that is building a lie.
Change my mind.
Published in General
I too saw Office of Management and Budget and then OMG, and thought I was just out of it.
Perhaps more people in gov’t should voice their outrage at runaway spending by invoking: OMB!!
And of course, BLM is Bureau of Land Management. Why should they be rioting?
When I hung out in southwest Oregon, the BLM was just about as well thought of as this new BLM of today. And I still have to translate BLM in my head.
This one just seemed to catch on.
Never can tell what will sell.
Gary does boost comments.
And it has 17 right now. Do my own comments as responses don’t count. :P
But not “likes.” At least not on the posts he creates.
I lived in Oregon the first 30 years of my life.
I arrived in Portland the night of December 28, 1978, the night the jet crashed on Burnside, and stayed for a couple of years. I really, really liked Portland. When St. Helens blew I felt the house shake and collected the ash. I met a guy there who mined gold near Grants Pass, and I did that too. BLM and the Forestry Service were bad words there.
Where did you live?
OMB! Really?
In the Willamette Valley area mostly, except for a couple years in Bend. I never lived in Portland “proper” although I had about 6 months on a sailboat moored at Hayden Island.
I suspect a lot of people in a lot of states never heard of the acronym BLM until this latest one.
Fortunately I was never subjected to the liberal hell-hole that Eugene was even back then.
I never thought of sailing on the Willamette, but the guy I bought my last sailboat from sails on it.
Self proclaimed “Nevertrumpers” were fully behind the Muller Probe. Muller was said to be a good and honorable man, just what the investigation needed. When the probe found no collusion and no clear obstruction. The report was still said to be deeply troubling.
So if the Muller team members hid their work from the IG. Basically their own version of obstruction, this is a big deal. Something these “nevertrumpers” should be willing to address.
To suggest this is not to create “a scapegoat on to which all problems of the world can be cast to avoid the shadow of introspection” It is not all the problems of the world, just the credibility of a group of investigators and their potentially committing acts just as bad or worse than what they were investigating.
The people who supported Mueller and his team at the time and spoke of them glowingly, are the ones avoiding introspection. If these people behaved poorly, were they worthy of your trust. If they feel the need to hide things, what did they do? It would seem that they may have broken the rules and still could not find anything to prosecute.
My stay was during the winter, and before I had a chance to go anywhere, my job changed again.
Actual “sailing” on the Willamette is likely something of a misnomer, although perhaps not that hard in the parts close to the Columbia. (Hayden Island is on the Columbia river, the I-5 bridge from Portland to Vancouver passes over it, Jantzen Beach – and the mall with that name, if it still exists – is to the west of the freeway/bridge.)
I knew people who moored their boats on the Willamette as far south as Salem and would motor back and forth to the Columbia when the water was deep enough. But last I heard, the locks at Oregon City are no longer operating, so that option is closed.
I’d like to take a survey – every person on this thread who has ever *accidentally* wiped their phone, please respond.
In fact, if you even know somebody who has ever accidentally wiped their phone, speak up.
Well said, and better than me.
Not I
Then Again, I don’t have an Ivy League education
I do that probably once a day, if not more.
You mean with a cloth, right?
Not I
Then again, I don’t have a phone.
(Well, a land line. I suppose I could wipe that . . . with a cloth!)
EDIT: D’oh! Kedavis’d!
171 comments and counting? I’d say you hit a nerve @bryangstephens……..not only that, these investigations have uncovered, and continue to uncover (more to come from Lindsey Graham apparently) rampant, appalling lies, deception, cover ups and crimes at the very highest levels, including and most especially, by Hillary Clinton, Obama and Biden….
When I see some posts, I tell myself, “Don’t comment! Don’t comment! You will only attract trolls.” Usually I can restrain myself.
This article from CTH tells the story of why incriminating evidence was wiped from these phones. That FBI agent from the Washington Field Office should be decorated for his work that reveals all these people involved in this coverup. He’s the one that set up James Wolfe and that represents about 90% of the story and a big part of the coverup is Warner and Rubio on the SCCI. They are still covering up.
Blazing Sunlight – Senate Intel Committee Refuses to Give GOP Senators Documents From Russia Investigation…
Gary doesn’t realize that, at least on these threads, he is the troll.
White supremacists are the bad actors infiltrating BLM peaceful protesters and attempting to burn down the Hatfield federal courthouse in Portland for over a hundred straight days. And they are the fiery part of the fiery but peaceful protests. In Richmond, they actually managed to find one. One. And charge him. Tens of millions in damage, thousands of rioters, and they only prosecuted the one that fed the narrative the mayor wanted to feed. The black mayor who was allowing BLM to burn down, loot, and terrorize black neighborhoods. What a monster.
Aren’t like half or two-thirds of the white supremacy groups actually made up of FBI agents? Or is that only the KKK?
OMG – yes!
Just the KKK in the mid 20th century. Once it was realized how inept they are the FBI was able to cut back.
Edited to add: Truthfully, I don’t know, just regurgitating info from a mid 90’s conversation.
This fits with my assessment. My life experience doesn’t indicate to me that there is much out there in terms of numbers. J. Edgar Hoover was very adept at accruing embarrassing information to use in his dealings with others.