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I never dreamed I’d post something about this. As much as I love our cousins across the pond, and as much as I appreciate their tenacious clinging to their quaint and fusty old ways, petulant drama surrounding “the royals” strikes me as about the most boring subject imaginable. This will be my only comment on the matter, I’m sure.

The fetching American princess is getting a lot of heat right now, and I want to put in a word in her defense. [Disclaimer: I wouldn’t recognize her if I saw her, but I understand she’s quite lovely.]

If Prince Harry can’t keep his wife in line, that’s his problem, not hers. I don’t care how “woke” she is, how much a progressive nutcase, how dissatisfied she may be with the crushing strictures of her high station, what a spoiled and narcissistic airhead brat she may be: if young Harry can’t run his own family, he probably isn’t man enough to represent his country.

It’s the prerogative of a princess to want all kinds of things. Harry should man up and say no.

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  1. Susan Quinn Contributor

    [snicker, snicker] Oh, uh, I protest this sexist, condescending comment!! So there!

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:00 PM PST
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  2. Brady Allen Member

    There is probably a psychological term for someone who takes a subordinate role in a divisive situation that has an outcome he wants but doesn’t want the blame. “Yoko’ed”?

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:01 PM PST
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  3. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    [snicker, snicker] Oh, uh, I protest this sexist, condescending comment!! So there!

    Because I like you, I’ll pretend to feel chagrined that I gave vent to my true nature. ;)

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:02 PM PST
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  4. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Brady Allen (View Comment):

    There is probably a psychological term for someone who takes a subordinate role in a divisive situation that has an outcome he wants but doesn’t want the blame. “Yoko’ed”?

    I think “pansy” is no longer in the DSM.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:03 PM PST
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  5. Susan Quinn Contributor

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    [snicker, snicker] Oh, uh, I protest this sexist, condescending comment!! So there!

    Because I like you, I’ll pretend to feel chagrined that I gave vent to my true nature. ;)

    That works!

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:05 PM PST
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  6. Columbo Member

    Seen in Ricochet Group, Funny Political Memes … (hat tip @richardeaston)

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:10 PM PST
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  7. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Harry and Collin Kaepernick seem to be subject to the same problem. Even though Kaepernick’s girlfriend doesn’t have the notoriety of Meghan, in both cases, you had men who were non-political public figures for an extended time period who suddenly became hyper-woke after hooking up with woke women. It’s possibly both men were leaning that way to begin with, and connecting up with radical progressive partners just brought it out in them (the more cynical angle would be Harry and Collin must be having the best sex of their lives to go along with all the reputation-destroying work their paramours are putting them through).

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:13 PM PST
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  8. Seawriter Contributor

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    . . . Harry and Collin must be having the best sex of their lives to go along with all the reputation-destroying work their paramours are putting them through . . .

    What Jon1979 said.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:17 PM PST
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  9. Mendel Member
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    Where does this certainty come from that Meghan is calling all of the shots against Harry’s will? I’ll admit I know next to nothing about this “scandal” (thank God), but how can everyone be so certain this is all Meghan’s influence? Have transcripts of their private conversations been published somewhere that I’ve missed?

    Is it not also quite likely that Harry married her because he was also secretly woke inside? I always thought he was something of the black sheep of the royal family anyhow.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:19 PM PST
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  10. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    . . . Harry and Collin must be having the best sex of their lives to go along with all the reputation-destroying work their paramours are putting them through . . .

    What Jon1979 said.

    Well, if I thought that were the case, I’d be inclined to take back my criticism.

     

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM PST
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  11. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Mendel (View Comment):

    Where does this certainty come from that Meghan is calling all of the shots against Harry’s will? I’ll admit I know next to nothing about this “scandal” (thank God), but how can everyone be so certain this is all Meghan’s influence? Have transcripts of their private conversations been published somewhere that I’ve missed?

    Is it not also quite likely that Harry married her because he was also secretly woke inside? I always thought he was something of the black sheep of the royal family anyhow.

    Entirely possible. I’m just pushing back against what seems to be the popular position, that it’s his wife’s fault.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:21 PM PST
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  12. Seawriter Contributor

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    . . . Harry and Collin must be having the best sex of their lives to go along with all the reputation-destroying work their paramours are putting them through . . .

    What Jon1979 said.

    Well, if I thought that were the case, I’d be inclined to take back my criticism.

    He better be. Throwing away your reputation and career for insipid sex would be truly sad.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:21 PM PST
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  13. Mendel Member
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    In any case, I really don’t understand all the pot shots at Henry and Meghan coming from US conservatives.

    So a royal couple that will realistically never ascend to throne still gets a lavish lifestyle paid for from the public dole, they say they’d like to stop living off their citizens’ income and want to earn their own money, and American conservatives call them petulant little children?

    Even if all they end up doing is trying to milk their royal name and fame to establish themselves as the next Kardashians, I don’t see how this is anything but a win-win development.

    Someone is definitely taking crazy pills here. Maybe it’s me (again).

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:22 PM PST
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  14. Seawriter Contributor

    Mendel (View Comment):
    So a royal couple that will realistically never ascend to throne still gets a lavish lifestyle paid for from the public dole, they say they’d like to stop living off their citizens’ income and want to earn their own money, and American conservatives call them petulant little children?

    The pot shots come from the belief that saying they’d like to stop living off their citizens’ income and earn their own money is all they plan to do – say they will and continue receiving the Royal Dole. 

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:25 PM PST
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  15. Mendel Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Mendel (View Comment):
    So a royal couple that will realistically never ascend to throne still gets a lavish lifestyle paid for from the public dole, they say they’d like to stop living off their citizens’ income and want to earn their own money, and American conservatives call them petulant little children?

    The pot shots come from the belief that saying they’d like to stop living off their citizens’ income and earn their own money is all they plan to do – say they will and continue receiving the Royal Dole.

    Sure, if/when they come crawling back for that sweet royal cash, all pot shots will be earned and deserved. But until then, I find it somewhat silly to preemptively ridicule somebody who announces their intention to do something quite admirable just because his wife is Wokey McWokeface.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:35 PM PST
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  16. She Reagan
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    lol, @henryracette. Nice post.

    Put me on the side which thinks Harry isn’t interested in controlling his wife, because she’s getting him exactly what (he thinks) he wants, without his having to stick his neck out (not always a good idea, if you’re a member of the British monarchy).

    He’s long chafed, not so much at the responsibilities of “good causes,” and ribbon cuttings, as at the never-ending scrutiny of the press, which hasn’t abated much since he was caught showing off the family jewels while playing strip billiards in Las Vegas a decade or so ago. Although seemingly settled down since then, the British press, a large portion of which spends its life in the gutter, hasn’t left him alone.

    So I think he sees Meghan, who’s clearly the stronger of the pair, as his ticket out, and he doesn’t mind looking [expletived] (vulgar term I learned from Mr. She, who learned it in the USMC) in order to get there.

    That being said, I salute his service in Afghanistan, which he undertook privately, and about which many of those who served with him have been complimentary. Someone squealed, though, and he had to come home before he wanted to, because of security concerns, not only for him personally, but also for his unit.

    I suppose it’s possible this really is the best thing for both of them, but I can’t shake off a considerable amount of skepticism, and a feeling, that five years from now he’ll be back judging the flower show at the Chipping Sodbury Women’s Institute, and she’ll be living in LA and trading on her position, rather like Fergie.

    Good luck to them both, in themselves and in each other.

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  17. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Mendel (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Mendel (View Comment):
    So a royal couple that will realistically never ascend to throne still gets a lavish lifestyle paid for from the public dole, they say they’d like to stop living off their citizens’ income and want to earn their own money, and American conservatives call them petulant little children?

    The pot shots come from the belief that saying they’d like to stop living off their citizens’ income and earn their own money is all they plan to do – say they will and continue receiving the Royal Dole.

    Sure, if/when they come crawling back for that sweet royal cash, all pot shots will be earned and deserved. But until then, I find it somewhat silly to preemptively ridicule somebody who announces their intention to do something quite admirable just because his wife is Wokey McWokeface.

    I don’t think it’s admirable. I have no use for royalty, but being born into it is the kind of handicap one should bear with grace, in my opinion.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 12:52 PM PST
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  18. Tex929rr Coolidge

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  19. Stina Member

    Henry Racette: [ Disclaimer: I wouldn’t recognize her if I saw her, but I understand she’s quite lovely. ]

    She’s a sexpot. Kate has a classier look, imo.

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  20. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Stina (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: [ Disclaimer: I wouldn’t recognize her if I saw her, but I understand she’s quite lovely. ]

    She’s a sexpot. Kate has a classier look, imo.

    Well, okay. That’s one point in her favor.

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  21. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    . . . Harry and Collin must be having the best sex of their lives to go along with all the reputation-destroying work their paramours are putting them through . . .

    What Jon1979 said.

    Well, if I thought that were the case, I’d be inclined to take back my criticism.

    I don’t know. I was just tossing out that slightly snarky point because neither of them had shown political inclinations prior to their current relationships — in Kaepernick’s case, coming out as super-woke in 2013, right after the 49ers came close to winning the Super Bowl with him at QB, would have been far more impactful than doing it three years later, when he was a struggling QB who had lost his starting job and was simply playing out his contract on what turned out to be a one-win San Francisco team. But he wasn’t going out with Niessa Diab in 2013

    Harry’s pretty much the same way. Woke Prince right after his time with the military in Afghanistan would have had more of an impact than him doing it after marrying a celebrity who had already made SJWism part of her brand. That’s why people think his sudden turn to progressive activism has his wife’s fingerprints all over it.

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  22. MarciN Member

    Henry Racette: If Prince Harry can’t keep his wife in line

    Thank goodness modern marriage is not like that. Neither spouse keeps the other “in line.” :-)

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    • January 15, 2020, at 2:39 PM PST
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  23. Mark Camp Member

    Usually you recapitulate what I’ve thought. Here you’ve written what I thought before I thought it, thx.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 2:49 PM PST
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  24. Freeven Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: If Prince Harry can’t keep his wife in line

    This sounds like something out of an old bad movie.

    Thank goodness modern marriage is not like that. Neither spouse keeps the other “in line.” :-)

    Perhaps we’re not talking about the same thing, but I think a key role of a good spouse is to keep the other in line. It’s one reason why marriage is foundational to a good society. 

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    • January 15, 2020, at 3:04 PM PST
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  25. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: If Prince Harry can’t keep his wife in line

    This sounds like something out of an old bad movie.

    Thank goodness modern marriage is not like that. Neither spouse keeps the other “in line.” :-)

    Hey, don’t besmirch the good old days, when men were men and dames were dames. 

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    • January 15, 2020, at 3:13 PM PST
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  26. Seawriter Contributor

    MarciN (View Comment):
    Thank goodness modern marriage is not like that. Neither spouse keeps the other “in line.” :-)

    Janet kept me in line, and I kept her in line. Worked great for forty years. That is one thing I miss most – a backstop.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 3:28 PM PST
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  27. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member

    Well, they ought to keep themselves to the great white north. We really have plenty of trashy publicity seekers in this country and we don’t need any eurotrash to give the place atmosphere.

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  28. Jon1979 Lincoln

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Well, they ought to keep themselves to the great white north. We really have plenty of trashy publicity seekers in this country and we don’t need any eurotrash to give the place atmosphere.

    Harry’s definitely not as tough as Sheldon Leonard….

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  29. Kozak Member
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    Prince Harry the Stoneless….

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  30. Mark Camp Member

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    Thank goodness modern marriage is not like that. Neither spouse keeps the other “in line.” :-)

    Janet kept me in line, and I kept her in line. Worked great for forty years. That is one thing I miss most – a backstop.

    I don’t expect to be the one to experience this missing, but I kind of understand it already. Anyway, we share in your thankfulness for her life, even knowing only what we know of it through your testimony.

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    • January 15, 2020, at 4:27 PM PST
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