Breaking: Mass Shooting in Las Vegas

 

Police responded late Sunday night to reports of an active shooter situation at an outdoor country music festival near Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. In a briefing held just after 3 am ET, a public information officer for the Las Vegas PD said that one suspect is down. He advised everyone to avoid the Las Vegas Strip. From ABC News:

Officials at the University Medical Center in Las Vegas told ABC News that it had at least 20 victims with gunshot wounds right now, with the number expected to grow. The hospital did not provide information on the victims’ conditions…

“They were firing from somewhere high, and they were unloading clip after clip after clip after clip,” a witness told Nathan O’Neal, a reporter for a local news station, KSNV News. “It was hundreds of shots.”

https://twitter.com/davidsakach/status/914730995147870208

https://twitter.com/NateNews3LV/status/914728749668507648

Local station KNTV reported that as of 3:15 am ET, two people are confirmed dead and 24 hospitalized. You can watch KNTV’s live feed here.

Update (4:35 am ET): In a second public statement, Las Vegas Police said that there are more than 20 people dead and more than 100 injured.

Update (6:50 am ET): Las Vegas Police now saying more than 50 people dead and more than 200 injured. This makes it the deadliest mass shooting in US history. The gunman has been identified as Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, NV.

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  1. Kevin Creighton Contributor
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    A worthy cause: https://www.gofundme.com/dr2ks2-las-vegas-victims-fund

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  2. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    I have just been a victim of security privilege.  One of the most arrogant condescending things I have ever heard.

    Them: “I feel sorry that this women was raped, or (in my case) your home was invaded.  But carrying a firearm isn’t the answer as you could become a murderer if you chose to defend yourself.  I have been alive 64 years and I have never had any problems cause I always chose to live in safe places.”

    Me: I have to leave now.  (Cause if I stay I will tell you exactly what I am thinking).

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  3. George Townsend Inactive
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    Kevin Creighton (View Comment):
    A worthy cause: https://www.gofundme.com/dr2ks2-las-vegas-victims-fund

    Thank you very much, Kevin. I would not have known about this but for the link above. I gave a little bit. Hope it helps. I also put the fund on Facebook. And I learned from Fox News that the blood bank in Vegas has a backlog of people wanting to donate, and that it goes into Thursday. So it is good to know that people do care.

    • #63
  4. Gary Robbins Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    There is a problem with the SSRI meds causing these horrific acts of violence. Psychiatric care and this class of drugs come up too often in mass shootings to be a coincidence.

    Looking at the human mind and how it works, it’s clear how this happens. Our brain takes in billions of images and text messages every single day, which today includes violent movies, televisions shows, and literature. We don’t discharge that input. Unfortunately it just piles up. Nearly everyone has the mental ability to ignore stuff that isn’t important or relevant or that is immoral. But it’s just sitting there all the time.

    The SSRIs stir up crap in the brain that people ordinarily ignore.

    It happens so rarely that it’s impossible to predict the patients it will affect. We are talking about a very small number of patients who are super-sensitive to these drugs. But those single patients out of a million patients can wreak more damage than we could ever imagine twenty years ago.

    The rule should be that if someone is on an SSRI, that person should have to have a lot of psychiatric supervision. In my opinion, the psychiatrists have been negligent over the last ten years in this regard while this evidence has been mounting.

    These mass shootings are not normal human behavior. And that is what psychiatrists are trained to recognize: abnormal behavior.

    A psyche nurse once explained why people are put on suicide watch when they first start taking an antidepressant. These patients have been experiencing suicidal imagining for a long time. What happens when they start taking the antidepressant is that for the first time in a long time, they feel better and they are clearer thinking. Now they are able to actually do what they have been dreaming about doing. In other words, a severely mentally ill person can’t get organized to accomplish much of anything, much less a mass shooting which entails obtaining the guns in the first place.

    We have got to talk to the nation’s psychiatrists and pharmaceutical companies. We need to get them in the same room and ask some really hard questions. We have got to figure this out, and we can if we look at it without politics.

    I have to take grave exception to your post.  According to the news, there is no evidence of mental illness.  If so, did you pull your argument about SSRI’s out of thin air?  If so you have done a great disservice to Ricochet, and to the one-sixth of Americans who take psychiatric medication.

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  5. MarciN Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I have to take grave exception to your post. According to the news, there is no evidence of mental illness. If so, did you pull your argument about SSRI’s out of thin air? If so you have done a great disservice to Ricochet, and to the one-sixth of Americans who take psychiatric medication.

    I respect the psychiatric medications. I took care of a friend who suffered from paranoid schizophrenia for 35 years. I was this person’s guardian, and I know a lot about them. They are a godsend.

    I am saying merely that a small percentage of people may be acutely sensitive to SSRI medications.

    Some people are allergic to antibiotics. Some people react badly to vaccines. Some people develop tardive dyskensia from antipsychotics. The list goes on. People react to medications differently.

    This needs to be investigated.

    I don’t know if the shooter was on an SSRI. I was actually only agreeing with comment 38, which mentioned the possibility.

    • #65
  6. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bob W (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):

    rebark (View Comment):
    So. Someone with a death wish and such powerful hatred for his fellow man that he would do this. 64-year old retirement home resident, so maybe terminally ill or something?

    What is there to be done when people go this wrong?

    This is a good question. The only answer has to be that we don’t know. The left always does know. Their first answer is gun control. As if controlling the tools that are used for horrible purposes will control the type of mind that is responsible for such an act. Sometimes we just have to pray that the types of such tortured minds are not on the increase. It appears that maybe they may be. And the best answer to that is to have more mental-health facilities to segregate these people from the rest of us.

    There’s really only three reasons someone does mass killings.Political motivation, personal grievance, or they’re on drugs. The second would probably ruled out due to the huge number of victims. If the first is ruled out, that leaves drugs. The modern mass shooting is about 30 years old and so is the SSRI antidepressant, which carries a suicidality risk in its warnings. For some, that risk becomes a risk for homicidality. Many infamous mass shooters were on these drugs.

    This is incredibly irresponsible.  There is no evidence that the shooter was on SSRI’s.  None.  Zero.  Nada.  One-sixth of Americans take psychiatric medication.  It is not right for you to smear them, in the absence of an ounce of evidence that he used medication.

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  7. Larry3435 Inactive
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    I am very proud of my city this morning.  The reaction to the tragedy has been brave and generous.  Donations of food, water, blankets, and other supplies have been pouring in to centers all over town.  Lines to donate at blood banks are eight hours long.  A go-fund-me page has raised 3 million dollars in one day for the victims and their families.  There were candlelight vigils everywhere last night.  Several hotel chains have offered free rooms to those affected by the tragedy.  Local hospitals have worked non-stop to get care to the wounded.  As I said, I’m very proud.  #lasvegasstrong.

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  8. Kevin Creighton Contributor
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    Larry3435 (View Comment):
    I am very proud of my city this morning. The reaction to the tragedy has been brave and generous. Donations of food, water, blankets, and other supplies have been pouring in to centers all over town. Lines to donate at blood banks are eight hours long. A go-fund-me page has raised 3 million dollars in one day for the victims and their families. There were candlelight vigils everywhere last night. Several hotel chains have offered free rooms to those affected by the tragedy. Local hospitals have worked non-stop to get care to the wounded. As I said, I’m very proud. #lasvegasstrong.

    You have reason to be proud.

    I have friends who are SERIOUSLY squared-away SWAT cops… like the cops who train the guys who train SWAT.

    All of them, to a man, are gushing about LVPD’s response to this, saying not only is it textbook, it should be the subject of the next textbook written on such matters.

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  9. La Tapada Member
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    News articles are reporting that Paddock checked in to the hotel using his girlfriend’s ID, but they don’t explain how that can happen. I don’t think I could check into a hotel by myself using my husband’s ID, could I? If so, a person could check in with any ID they happen to pick up somewhere. So then what is the purpose of an ID at check-in?

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  10. Miffed White Male Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bob W (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):

    rebark (View Comment):
    So. Someone with a death wish and such powerful hatred for his fellow man that he would do this. 64-year old retirement home resident, so maybe terminally ill or something?

    What is there to be done when people go this wrong?

    This is a good question. The only answer has to be that we don’t know. The left always does know. Their first answer is gun control. As if controlling the tools that are used for horrible purposes will control the type of mind that is responsible for such an act. Sometimes we just have to pray that the types of such tortured minds are not on the increase. It appears that maybe they may be. And the best answer to that is to have more mental-health facilities to segregate these people from the rest of us.

    There’s really only three reasons someone does mass killings.Political motivation, personal grievance, or they’re on drugs. The second would probably ruled out due to the huge number of victims. If the first is ruled out, that leaves drugs. The modern mass shooting is about 30 years old and so is the SSRI antidepressant, which carries a suicidality risk in its warnings. For some, that risk becomes a risk for homicidality. Many infamous mass shooters were on these drugs.

    This is incredibly irresponsible. There is no evidence that the shooter was on SSRI’s. None. Zero. Nada. One-sixth of Americans take psychiatric medication. It is not right for you to smear them, in the absence of an ounce of evidence that he used medication.

    This is a really interesting first-person experience about someone on anti-depressants becoming homicidal:  https://m.facebook.com/notes/john-ringo/a-theory-on-las-vegas/10155111388257055/

     

     

    • #70
  11. Annefy Member
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    Wow. Thanks for the link. That was chilling

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