Time, CNBC, and Drudge vs. CNN

 

After last night’s debate, CNN, Time, CNBC, and the Drudge Report conducted online polls on their websites of those who had watched the debate. According to CNN, 62% of the voters who tuned in thought that Hillary had won. Time reports that 55% thought that Trump had won. CNBC informs us that 67% thought that Trump had won. And the Drudge Report found that 82.34% thought that Trump had won.

Go figure.

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  1. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    There is credible evidence that much of Trump’s online support orginiates in Russia:

    https://twitter.com/DustinGiebel/status/780814613021548544

    I wouldn’t put too much stock in instant online reaction polls. Lets wait a few days and see what the scientific polls say.

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  2. Palaeologus Inactive
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    One of these polls is not like the others, one of these polls just doesn’t belong…

    Any guesses as to which of the four outlets actually conducted a poll as opposed to a completely useless online survey?

    This one.

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  3. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Sleepywhiner:

    Paul A. Rahe:

    Viator:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtW84diUEAANmQM.jpg

    Very interesting. Thank you.

    A co-worker and I have a theory that the people who haven’t decided in their responses to pollsters fall into 2 camps:

    1. Those who are deciding between whether to vote or not (and those who decide to vote, will largely fall to Trump)
    2. Those who have really decided on trump and won’t tell their friends or pollsters

    I add to this that people know Hillary. There is no stigma to telling a pollster you’ll vote for her. Other than #nevertrumpers (sorry) who are probably wondering when do i vote for Herself? Some of those 3rd party voters are coming back to her, but her numbers are her high water mark. Trump’s are hidden in those undecideds.

    That may be write. Ronald Reagan persistently outdid the polls by 5%.

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  4. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Palaeologus:One of these polls is not like the others, one of these polls just doesn’t belong…

    Any guesses as to which of the four outlets actually conducted a poll as opposed to a completely useless online survey?

    This one.

    Fair enough. But the sample was, as CNN admits, badly skewed.

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  5. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Paul A. Rahe:

    Palaeologus:One of these polls is not like the others, one of these polls just doesn’t belong…

    Any guesses as to which of the four outlets actually conducted a poll as opposed to a completely useless online survey?

    This one.

    Fair enough. But the sample was, as CNN admits, badly skewed.

    If they used good polling methodology they would have accounted for this.

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  6. Brian Clendinen Member
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    Why due we quote online polling at all, it is not  junk science but it is not science either (it falls under anecdotal evidence). Statisticians have know for a long time now that online polling is never statistically significant. Its just to hard to get a statistically sound population selections. So really all this proves is how worthless online polling is. However the CNN poll was done via more traditional and sound method’s so it might be worth something. Then again as said already they did not get a good cross section of the population so even their poll has issues.

    So yay always ignore online polling regardless of the questions asked or the site doing it because nothing is going to make it objective evidence.

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  7. The Reticulator Member
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    MarciN:Until someone establishes exactly what “winning” means, these polls are just subjective popularity reality-television contests. ?

    Good point. While we’re at it, we should establish what the term “debate” means.

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  8. Snirtler Inactive
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    Eugene Kriegsmann:If you listen to the HLC podcast, they saw a clearcut Trump victory. Listen to Commentary and your get a pretty opposite view. Ultimately, people saw and heard what they expected to see and hear.

    I logged in to the site just to “like” this comment.

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