How Small Do You Want Your Government?

 

Reflecting upon our debates – or, at least, disagreements – about WHINOS vs RINOS, I began to wonder if there was a difference in assessment of the relative merits of a GOP presidency vs a Hillary/Warren/Sanders (HWS) presidency. We probably all agree that anyone is better than HWS, in at least the short term. But how much better?

If you think things are bad, but not too bad, and in many important areas trending well, then the difference is pretty big. If you think things are really, really bad indeed, then the difference is pretty small. The first camp wants the immature bomb-throwers to shut up and let the adults win the election. The second camp thinks the important thing is to wake the sheeple, and if this election is lost it is a small price to pay for the longer term objective of saving the republic (if that is still possible).

But what do we mean by “bad?” And how does the presidency figure in this? One approach is to ask what would be an acceptable, long-term, sustainable size for the Federal government. Now, government size is notoriously hard to define and/or measure, so I have arbitrarily chosen two measures: number of pages in the Federal Register, and Federal outlays per capita (in 2014 dollars). To give you some context, the two graphs below show their evolution over time.

FederalRegister

The number of pages in the Federal Register per year is a proxy for regulatory activity. It’s not necessarily a great proxy, but it does, I think, give a flavor of the activity of the regulatory state. Prior to 1935, there was no Federal Register: Before the New Deal, it wasn’t needed. (The graph is from the Congressional Research Service (PDF).)

Spending-Per-Capita

Federal outlays per person, on an inflation adjusted basis, give another window on the absolute size of government. (The idea that things should be measured as a proportion of GDP has a lot of problems.) This graph is from Mercatus. It goes back only to 1945 because … I don’t know. The 1948 figure is $2,214. (Remember, these are 2014 dollars.)

My questions to you:

  1. How many pages should the Federal Register have in a normal year? (It would have a lot of pages in a year that a lot of regulations were repealed, so ignore those.)
  2. What should be the Federal outlay per person (in today’s dollars) in a normal year?

By normal, I mean on a long-term, stabilized basis, ignoring transitional costs and world wars.

You might also comment on whether you think there is any correlation between the size of government one considers appropriate and one’s approach to the forthcoming election.

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  1. user_517406 Inactive
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    @MerinaSmith

    No indeed–we have to be constantly on our toes and finding ways to resist. That’s for sure!

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  2. The Reticulator Member
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    Merina Smith:Have you read Charles Murray’s new book? He has some interesting ideas in there for defeating agencies run amok.

    This sounds interesting, and motivates me to read his book.  Any chance you’d write a post about some of these ideas, though?  This topic is very important — I sometimes wonder if conservatives appreciate just how important.

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  3. user_517406 Inactive
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    The Reticulator:

    Merina Smith:Have you read Charles Murray’s new book? He has some interesting ideas in there for defeating agencies run amok.

    This sounds interesting, and motivates me to read his book. Any chance you’d write a post about some of these ideas, though? This topic is very important — I sometimes wonder if conservatives appreciate just how important.

    Do read it. It’s called By the People.  I did think about writing a post, but would have to review the book quite a bit to do it justice.  When I get a bit of time, but if you or BDB beat me to it, I won’t complain.

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  4. user_331141 Member
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    @JamieLockett

    Charles Murray’s, the *shudder* libertarian, new book is fantastic – as all of his books are.

    Ball I don’t think you’re insane, I think your tactics are wrong, unconservative, powered by little more than rage, and ultimately counterproductive. But I’m glad to see you assume your interlocutors are just stupid and unable to understand metaphor rather than simply wrong – its a trait I most often see in liberals which confirms a lot of what I believe about you.

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  5. Ball Diamond Ball Member
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    Jamie Lockett
    Charles Murray’s, the *shudder* libertarian, new book is fantastic – as all of his books are.

    Ball I don’t think you’re insane, I think your tactics are wrong, unconservative, powered by little more than rage, and ultimately counterproductive. But I’m glad to see you assume your interlocutors are just stupid and unable to understand metaphor rather than simply wrong – its a trait I most often see in liberals which confirms a lot of what I believe about you.

    Whatever, CoC-bait.

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  6. Ricochet Editor's Desk Editor
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    Ball Diamond Ball:

    Jamie Lockett:

    Ball Diamond Ball: Annyhoo. Do you think that the government will be reduced in size by even a single dollar? Paul Ryan’s budget went out for ten years, reducing the deficit all the way, and *still* never balanced.

    I think it is possible but it will require either an extremely long timeline (it look liberals 100 years to get us to this state of affairs) or a calamitous event.

    I guess a simple “no” was too embarrassing.

    Ball, you asked Jamie a substantive question, he provided a substantive answer. For a moment, it looked like you two were having an actual conversation… before you took up with the snark again.

    Snark has its place on Ricochet, along with the seriousness. If you’re going to mix them, though, add some sweetener.

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