Liz Cheney: The Leadership of My Party Enables White Supremacy

 

Liz Cheney (R?-WY?) or her junior staffer who runs the Twitter account, had this to say this morning.

The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism. History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse. @GOP leaders must renounce and reject these views and those who hold them.

My question to Liz Cheney or her supporters is… what exactly has the GOP leadership done to enable “white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism?”

Or is this just part of her strategy to save her seat by getting Democrats to vote for her?

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  1. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    MDHahn (View Comment):
    Identity politics and the cult of victim hood drive the Left’s positions. I see too much of that on the right these days and I believe it is destructive. 

    Is there really a “cult of victimhood” on the right, or are middle and working class people speaking out about genuine concerns like uncontrolled immigration, the export of jobs and prosperity to China and other country, public schools failing to teach literacy and math while indoctrinating racialism and socialism, the destruction of entertainment and sport by woke ideology, and all the other bad stuff that’s happening?

    I am sure it looks like “a cult of victimhood” to the political class who are above such concerns.

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  2. Charlotte Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    W Bob (View Comment):
    The hysteria the libs feel about Replacement Theory means that they know that we know what they’re up to. And Liz Cheney’s TDS apparently has made her feel the same way.

    Yeah, it’s funny how they have talked about this as a positive thing for years, and now the fact that we’re noticing, suddenly it’s a conspiracy theory.

    Michael Anton calls that construction the Celebration Parallax

    “That’s not happening and it’s good that it is!”

    The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.” In contemporary speech, on any “controversial” topic—or, to say better, regime priority—the decisive factor is the intent of the speaker. If she can be presumed to be celebrating the phenomenon under discussion, she may shout her approval from the rooftops. If not, he better shut up before someone comes along to shut him up.

    . . .

    The Left insists that concerns from certain quarters that immigration policy in America (and Europe) amounts to a “great replacement” is a “dangerous,” “evil,” “racist,” “false” “conspiracy theory.” But a leftist New York Times columnist can write an article entitled “We Can Replace Them” and … nothing. Same fundamental point, except she’s all for it and her targets aren’t. A U.S. Senator can exult that demographic change will doom Republicans. Joe Biden himself can refer to an “unrelenting stream of immigration.” Except they’re celebrating it and calling for it. Anyone on the Right who uses the exact same words will not merely be denounced; the very fact pattern that is affirmed when Biden says it will be denied when the Rightist repeats it.

    Wow, this is fascinating and obviously true. It applies to most of the gender lunacy as well. Thanks, Drew.

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    I wish to endorse Dave Reaboi’s take:

    Ahhh man, I wanted to read the blurred-out parts!

    Squint.

    I tried that, just makes it more blurry.

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  4. Sisyphus Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney: The centerfold for never-Trumpers . . .

    Ewwww.

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  5. Miffed White Male Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    I’ll admit that from the few clips I’ve seen of Nick Fuentes, he comes off as skeevy. He may well be as bad as they say he is; but the same people who insist he’s a racist anti-semite are the same people who claim opposition to globalism is secret dog whistle code for antisemitism. These are the same people who claim it’s antisemitic to despise George Soros; even though the man was literally, not figuratively, involved with the German National Socialist Workers Party.

    Anyway, if this is Liz Cheney’s basis for declaring, “House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism,” it’s pretty weak tea. It is the instinct of the Bush-Republican to align themselves with media narratives and dump on more conservative members who do not.

    I am very skeptical about the existence of a “white supremacist” movement of any kind.

    I think the demand for racism in the USA vastly exceeds the supply. If there isn’t enough real racism, the media will conjure it up by evoking shadowy conspiracy theories of white supremacy and white nationalism. It’s a convenient cudgel against anyone who opposes anything the left supports. Even opposition to abortion is supposedly based in white supremacy.

    Outside of the Azov battalion, there really isn’t much organized white supremacy in the world.

    Just as a conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged (and a liberal is a conservative who’s been arrested), a “White Supremacist” is anyone who’s been subjected to a “racial sensitivity” seminar or otherwise refused to accept the tenets of CRT. 

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  6. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    @ChrisCampion

    What’s really intersting is that the large call to support Ukraine, which includes some actual Nazis, is a moral imperative for those who accuse Republicans, for some reason, of being white supremacists, or at least supportive of white supremacy.

    Democrats.  Check yourself, and your history.  You’re not who you think you are.  You’re actually the worst of what you accuse others to be.  Here’s an example:

     

    See the source image

     

    Liz Cheney can’t go away fast enough.  She’s literally fanning the flames of extremism, by stating what is not true.

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  7. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    It is extremely difficult to prevent someone from doing something stupid or evil. Common criminals who do not have a mental illness rationalize their behavior. The mentally ill are capable of planning, and they have beliefs as well as a defined view of the world that governs their actions. Of course, not all mentally ill individuals engage in violent acts.

    Something I’ve been trying to communicate to family members, with limited success.  It’s not hate.  It’s not racism.  Don’t confuse crazy with rational people.  Only crazy people do these things.

    Crazy people.  If the shooter didn’t latch onto racism, it would have been one of a thousand other things, with violence resulting.

    Also, I’d be interested in some consistency of coverage, but as always, breath-holding will not occur.

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  8. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    The shooter identified as an eco fascist. Doesn’t sound very right-wingy to me.

    But the media gonna media. And the RINOs gonna accept their narrative without question.

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  9. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    I’ll admit that from the few clips I’ve seen of Nick Fuentes, he comes off as skeevy. He may well be as bad as they say he is; but the same people who insist he’s a racist anti-semite are the same people who claim opposition to globalism is secret dog whistle code for antisemitism. These are the same people who claim it’s antisemitic to despise George Soros; even though the man was literally, not figuratively, involved with the German National Socialist Workers Party.

    Anyway, if this is Liz Cheney’s basis for declaring, “House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism,” it’s pretty weak tea. It is the instinct of the Bush-Republican to align themselves with media narratives and dump on more conservative members who do not.

    I am very skeptical about the existence of a “white supremacist” movement of any kind.

    I think the demand for racism in the USA vastly exceeds the supply. If there isn’t enough real racism, the media will conjure it up by evoking shadowy conspiracy theories of white supremacy and white nationalism. It’s a convenient cudgel against anyone who opposes anything the left supports. Even opposition to abortion is supposedly based in white supremacy.

    Outside of the Azov battalion, there really isn’t much organized white supremacy in the world.

    It’s great for revenues.  That’s why they do it – the news media.  It feeds the narrative, and generates viewers, eager to ingest more.

    Note that any actual stats are completely out of the picture.  The news tonight (which I never watch, NBC I think, but I’m at Mom’s for a few days) is conflating guns (just the presence of guns in the US), white supremacy, online media, all 3 of those things, and calling it the cause of Buffalo and all the other “white supremacy” out there.

    What in the holy *&$& are they talking about?

    Oh, that’s right – they’re really talking about themselves, in terms of what they’ll do for money.  It’s money.  That’s all it is.  It’s news presented as a movie, with literal music overtones in the “news” story, to elicit emotion, the correct response, to get the viewer back for more.

    Leeches.  Leeches in the media, leeches in the permanent elected class, buying votes through a tragedy.

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  10. TBA Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    The problem with dynasties is that the younger relatives tend to be feebleminded.

    Is this about the Podhoretz and Kristol dynasties?

    It’s about all of them. 

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  11. Sisyphus Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I am very skeptical about the existence of a “white supremacist” movement of any kind. I don’t think it exists. I see people getting along everywhere I go. I just don’t buy this fear mongering of the mass media. The whole thing feels like a false flag operation of some kind. The Democrats have worked themselves into a frenzy of their own imagination.

     

    They exist and I’ve run into them on occasion. Not in serious numbers, far from it, and easy to avoid. Nothing like what the slander-clowns occupying the rotting corpse of the Southern Poverty Law Center would try to make you believe on their fund appeals. I grew up rough and ready and don’t always turn my nose up at dining in places Liz Cheney and Jay Nordlinger would never consider visiting. The one place where I’ve seen more than three “white supremacists” gathered was in prison ministry. If Jay Nordlinger says Fuentes is a white supremacist, well, I’ll need to see credible testimony. Jay Nordlinger is a nice guy who grew up on the right side of town and when exposed to anyone raised more rough and ready, he clutches his pearls and faints dead away. The Trump era really brought out his elitism. He was informed and fascinating and then he was a dupe for every slander that supported his prejudices.

    Every claim of racism deserves attention and investigation. And everyone should be held liable for their prejudices, regardless of race, creed, or color. And for their slanders.

    Lord, have mercy.

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  12. Hoyacon Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    The shooter identified as an eco fascist. Doesn’t sound very right-wingy to me.

    But the media gonna media. And the RINOs gonna accept their narrative without question.

    He was a mess.  But that doesn’t play to the narrative.

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  13. Vance Richards Inactive
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney: The centerfold for never-Trumpers . . .

    Ewwww.

    Pretty sure the Lincoln Project guys were hoping for someone younger and more  . . . boyish .

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney: The centerfold for never-Trumpers . . .

    Ewwww.

    But the Never-Trumpers go “Ooooohhh!!!”

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    The shooter identified as an eco fascist. Doesn’t sound very right-wingy to me.

    But the media gonna media. And the RINOs gonna accept their narrative without question.

    Haven’t you heard?  A “fascist” is always “conservative.”  Just ask the Left.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    The problem with dynasties is that the younger relatives tend to be feebleminded.

    Is this about the Podhoretz and Kristol dynasties?

    It’s about all of them.

    Don’t forget the Cheney dynasty.

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney: The centerfold for never-Trumpers . . .

    Ewwww.

    Pretty sure the Lincoln Project guys were hoping for someone younger and more . . . boyish .

    Is that like Michael Jackson, rushing to Walmart because they heard boys’ underwear was half off?

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  18. Sisyphus Member
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    Joker (View Comment):
    Like it or not, Republican platforms will attract their own form of nuts and extremists. And somebody will be the nuttiest and somebody will be the most extreme. We don’t have to like or support everybody in the tent.

    And everyone is entitled to their own list of who the nuts and extremists are. And their own criteria for assigning those titles.

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  19. Joker Member
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    @sisysphus I understand that we are free to judge and condemn anyone in our cohort. And some of the nuts are kind of scary.

    What concerns me is a voter who thinks government is too big, unnecessary regulation choking off freedom, border needs to be closed, CRT is nuts, woke culture is toxic, but thinks abortion is ok. I don’t want someone who agrees with us 90% to become a one issue voter because we insist on stamping out pro choice as a condition of being a Republican. For example.

    The Republican platform should be moral and rational. It will attract people, not all for the same reasons. Pretty sure Pelosi isn’t an actual anarchist, but she’ll take their contributions and votes all day long. Couple of times a day…

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Joker (View Comment):

    @ sisysphus I understand that we are free to judge and condemn anyone in our cohort. And some of the nuts are kind of scary.

    What concerns me is a voter who thinks government is too big, unnecessary regulation choking off freedom, border needs to be closed, CRT is nuts, woke culture is toxic, but thinks abortion is ok. I don’t want someone who agrees with us 90% to become a one issue voter because we insist on stamping out pro choice as a condition of being a Republican. For example.

    The Republican platform should be moral and rational. It will attract people, not all for the same reasons. Pretty sure Pelosi isn’t an actual anarchist, but she’ll take their contributions and votes all day long. Couple of times a day…

    And several times, on Election Days.

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  21. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo: The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism.

    A sweeping statement like that requires extensive evidence to back it up. You can’t just say stuff like that.

    Absurd…

    Indeed. Can she name names? Cite policy papers? Maybe she has audio recordings of strategy meetings between Mitch McConnel and the White Aryan Resistance?

    I’m sure Elaine knows all about it….and Ginny Thomas….

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  22. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    A racist nut-job just murdered people in cold blood and her first assumption is, “I bet he’s a Republican”? Really?

    Yes, everyone should condemn a mass murderer, but I am pretty sure the killer wasn’t motivated by Ted Cruz or Donald Trump . . . even though Cheney wants that to be the reason.

    As Ben Shapiro pointed out, the Buffalo murderer explicitly said in his manifesto that he was not a conservative and blamed both major parties for the “problem” he perceived.

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    A racist nut-job just murdered people in cold blood and her first assumption is, “I bet he’s a Republican”? Really?

    Yes, everyone should condemn a mass murderer, but I am pretty sure the killer wasn’t motivated by Ted Cruz or Donald Trump . . . even though Cheney wants that to be the reason.

    As Ben Shapiro pointed out, the Buffalo murderer explicit said in his manifesto that he was not a conservative and blamed both major parties for the “problem” he perceived.

    But of course the left knows he can’t have been serious about THEM, therefore only the right is at fault.

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  24. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Steve Schmidt has entered the convo:

    TEAM ELISE has advanced REPLACEMENT THEORY. She is absolutely responsible, in part for the blood shed. There will be more and she will share in that also because she helped light the fuse. Her rhetoric is purposeful. It is Hitlerism. What’s she is saying was at the ideological core of National Socialism. The new version is called NATIONAL CONSERVATISM. It’s called the New Right.

    I googled up TEAM ELISE and got nothing that made sense.  Can you enlighten me?

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  25. Randy Webster Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    The name Fuentes doesn’t sound white either.

    White Hispanic.

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  26. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Doesn’t Cheney consider herself as part of the leadership

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  27. Gary Robbins Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney: The centerfold for never-Trumpers . . .

    With all due respect, it appears that you suffer from NTDS.

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  28. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney: The centerfold for never-Trumpers . . .

    Ewwww.

    But the Never-Trumpers go “Ooooohhh!!!”

    With all due respect, it appears that you suffer from NTDS.

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  29. Hoyacon Member
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    @Hoyacon

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney: The centerfold for never-Trumpers . . .

    With all due respect, it appears that you suffer from NTDS.

    Why is that and why is it worth repeating?  It just seems like a strange comment coming from someone who has lionized a person who just falsely accused the party’s leadership of enabling white supremacists.

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  30. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    It is extremely difficult to prevent someone from doing something stupid or evil. Common criminals who do not have a mental illness rationalize their behavior. The mentally ill are capable of planning, and they have beliefs as well as a defined view of the world that governs their actions. Of course, not all mentally ill individuals engage in violent acts.

    Something I’ve been trying to communicate to family members, with limited success. It’s not hate. It’s not racism. Don’t confuse crazy with rational people. Only crazy people do these things.

    You are having limited success because you are wrong.  Some people are evil.  It is fundamentally non-conservative to reject the possibility of evil in human behavior.

    Crazy people. If the shooter didn’t latch onto racism, it would have been one of a thousand other things, with violence resulting.

    Nope, Evil.  Your formulation presumes such behavior is impossible for sane people.  Simply not true.

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