Biden Might Rescind Vaccine Mandate. It’s Still Bad.

 

President Joe Biden and his communist handlers have hinted that they would rescind their “mandate” for even federal employees to be vaccinated. Many people might be hollering “Yippee! Yahoo!” Not me.

They don’t really care if you get vaccinated, and that was never what this was about. It was about wielding power, and they did. They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated, and companies across this country would scrape and bow and enforce their distinctly un-American dictates.

This was an escalation of the “Dear Colleague letter” that former President Barack Obama’s administration sent out, requiring by unofficial correspondence that universities establish kangaroo courts to persecute men who are accused of assault by (mostly) politically inspired women. We are learning that our institutions, our employers, and our fellow countrymen no longer share our American values that laws should be enacted by due process, even if not by legislation.

The Republican Party needs to campaign on this. The GOP needs the people to understand it. We need to change this. We need to make it a cause of action to sue in court when someone issues such a threatening mandate, and when someone obeys such a threatening mandate.

I doubt the party will. The GOP is probably wondering how it can use that tactic.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    But to my point, if Democrats cared about losing the mid-terms they wouldn’t be pushing their multi-trillion spending bill, which a vast majority of the citizen class opposes. They wouldn’t be causing inflation, which a vast majority sees is a direct result of their policies. They wouldn’t be deliberately trying to destroy gas and oil production in the U.S. They wouldn’t be shutting down existing pipelines or halting construction of others. They wouldn’t be calling parents domestic terrorists. They wouldn’t be keeping schools closed. They wouldn’t be allowing their antifa foot soldiers to riot in the streets. They wouldn’t be putting millions out of work with vax mandates. They wouldn’t be feverishly pursuing every item on the left-wing wish list.

    If they cared about losing in the mid-terms they would have changed course months ago. They are continuing full speed ahead.

    You presume that the Democrats actually know how to get out of the mess they are in, but are purposely holding back. I am of the opinion that they really don’t know what they are doing. They don’t have a clue. They would love to curb inflation and clear up the supply chain issues and push their critical race theory on unsuspecting parents, and spend another $3.5 Trillion and even institute vaccine mandates. But they are a circus clown show that can’t even convince all of their own members to go along with this malarkey, let alone the electorate. It is ludicrous to believe they actually don’t care about losing power.

    Oh, I think the elected people care about losing power. My point is that the unelected bureaucracy won’t be affected by the mid-terms and they’re the ones driving the country off the cliff deliberately. So they’ll keep the pedal to the metal, accelerating the destruction of the country in favor of a glorious socialist future and they will suffer no consequences.

    And getting rid of Democrats in the mid-terms will change nothing.

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  2. Steven Seward Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    But to my point, if Democrats cared about losing the mid-terms they wouldn’t be pushing their multi-trillion spending bill, which a vast majority of the citizen class opposes. They wouldn’t be causing inflation, which a vast majority sees is a direct result of their policies. They wouldn’t be deliberately trying to destroy gas and oil production in the U.S. They wouldn’t be shutting down existing pipelines or halting construction of others. They wouldn’t be calling parents domestic terrorists. They wouldn’t be keeping schools closed. They wouldn’t be allowing their antifa foot soldiers to riot in the streets. They wouldn’t be putting millions out of work with vax mandates. They wouldn’t be feverishly pursuing every item on the left-wing wish list.

    If they cared about losing in the mid-terms they would have changed course months ago. They are continuing full speed ahead.

    You presume that the Democrats actually know how to get out of the mess they are in, but are purposely holding back. I am of the opinion that they really don’t know what they are doing. They don’t have a clue. They would love to curb inflation and clear up the supply chain issues and push their critical race theory on unsuspecting parents, and spend another $3.5 Trillion and even institute vaccine mandates. But they are a circus clown show that can’t even convince all of their own members to go along with this malarkey, let alone the electorate. It is ludicrous to believe they actually don’t care about losing power.

    Oh, I think the elected people care about losing power. My point is that the unelected bureaucracy won’t be affected by the mid-terms and they’re the ones driving the country off the cliff deliberately. So they’ll keep the pedal to the metal, accelerating the destruction of the country in favor of a glorious socialist future and they will suffer no consequences.

    And getting rid of Democrats in the mid-terms will change nothing.

    Okay.

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  3. Henry Racette Member
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    philo (View Comment):
    Aside from the rationalized fiction rewritten in comment #1 being more that a bit condescending and insulting

    I apologize for not including a trigger warning.

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

    They picked a fight and they lost. Doesn’t mean they didn’t bloody us some, doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt people. But they failed to demonstrate that they can push us around any way they want. I see that as a victory. It’s okay if others don’t.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):
    Aside from the rationalized fiction rewritten in comment #1 being more that a bit condescending and insulting

    I apologize for not including a trigger warning.

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

    They picked a fight and they lost. Doesn’t mean they didn’t bloody us some, doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt people. But they failed to demonstrate that they can push us around any way they want. I see that as a victory. It’s okay if others don’t.

    Some of us don’t think Brandon et al saying they’re going to pause until after the holidays – likely for reasons other than federal judges etc – amounts to a victory.

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  5. Henry Racette Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):
    Aside from the rationalized fiction rewritten in comment #1 being more that a bit condescending and insulting

    I apologize for not including a trigger warning.

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

    They picked a fight and they lost. Doesn’t mean they didn’t bloody us some, doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt people. But they failed to demonstrate that they can push us around any way they want. I see that as a victory. It’s okay if others don’t.

    Some of us don’t think Brandon et al saying they’re going to pause until after the holidays – likely for reasons other than federal judges etc – amounts to a victory.

    I think it’s amusing that the administration announced on Monday that it was “suspending” the mandate for federal employees — and judges on Tuesday blocked the mandate in multiple states, observing that the President* probably doesn’t have the authority to impose it. It almost sounds like face-saving on the part of the administration….

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):
    Aside from the rationalized fiction rewritten in comment #1 being more that a bit condescending and insulting

    I apologize for not including a trigger warning.

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

    They picked a fight and they lost. Doesn’t mean they didn’t bloody us some, doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt people. But they failed to demonstrate that they can push us around any way they want. I see that as a victory. It’s okay if others don’t.

    Some of us don’t think Brandon et al saying they’re going to pause until after the holidays – likely for reasons other than federal judges etc – amounts to a victory.

    I think it’s amusing that the administration announced on Monday that it was “suspending” the mandate for federal employees — and judges on Tuesday blocked the mandate in multiple states, observing that the President* probably doesn’t have the authority to impose it. It almost sounds like face-saving on the part of the administration….

    Except Brandon hasn’t had a big problem with defying courts before, including SCOTUS.    It’s quite possible that losing a bunch more workers – such as truck drivers – over the holidays due to not being vaccinated, would have resulted in even more empty store shelves etc, with consumer reaction more resembling the frog jumping out of the already-hot water.  Whereas after the holidays going back to a slower ratchet of mandates and firing people who don’t get vaccinated – whether that mandate is actually an (illegal) federal mandate or businesses picking up the “If you know what’s good for you…” message from Brandon and doing it (supposedly) on their own – would be more like raising the heat slowly until the frog is cooked.

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  7. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    I don’t think “they” care. This is being run by the unelected bureaucrat class. The mid-terms have no effect on them. Unless “every last Commie is rooted out of the federal bureaucracy.” And for that to happen we have to rely on the GOP. So we’re doomed.

    Oh, my, aren’t we binary today.

    Better’n non-binary, I guess. ; )

    If our system won’t work unless every last commie is rooted out, then it doesn’t deserve to work.

    Our system wasn’t designed for Commies.

    Sure, it was. If it could handle Jefferson and Hamilton, it can handle commies.  

    I’m not in favor of the Stalinist approach of blaming all the failures of his system on the presence of spies, saboteurs and kulaks, and instituting a purge as his main priority. 

    We had a system of limits, checks and balances that was disabled by the progressive project of turning governance over to an administrative state. Put back the limits, checks, and balances, and you can deal with a few commies in the works. But if you don’t do that, you’ll have the same problems no matter how many commies you purge.  

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  8. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    Put back the limits, checks, and balances, and you can deal with a few commies in the works. But if you don’t do that, you’ll have the same problems no matter how many commies you purge.  

    Well, like I said, we have to depend on the GOP for that, and they don’t seem up to the task.

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  9. Terry Mott Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    Put back the limits, checks, and balances, and you can deal with a few commies in the works. But if you don’t do that, you’ll have the same problems no matter how many commies you purge.

    Well, like I said, we have to depend on the GOP for that, and they don’t seem up to the task.

    Naw, it’s that not enough of them care as much as they care about what the NYT and WaPo write about them.  It’s not incompetence, it’s apathy.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    Put back the limits, checks, and balances, and you can deal with a few commies in the works. But if you don’t do that, you’ll have the same problems no matter how many commies you purge.

    Well, like I said, we have to depend on the GOP for that, and they don’t seem up to the task.

    I don’t see any evidence that any but a small handful of conservatives on Ricochet are interested, either. Can’t expect the GOP to be interested if they aren’t. 

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
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    And here’s why we’re suckers to believe the GOP is on our side: Here are 80 House Republicans who need to be primaried and removed from office ASAP. 

    ‘Tool to Enforce Orwellian Rules’: 80 House Republicans Help Pass Bill to Fund Federal Vaccination Database

    Eighty House Republicans voted with Democrats on Tuesday to pass the Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act, which if passed by the Senate and signed into law would fund a federal vaccination database.

    According to the bill, also called  H. R. 550, the government would provide $400 million in taxpayer dollars to fund “immunization system data modernization and expansion,” a system otherwise defined as “a confidential, population-based, computerized database that records immunization doses administered by any health care provider to persons within the geographic area covered by that database.”

    The text specifically outlines an expansion of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Public Health Department capabilities and the ability for state and local health departments, as well as public and private health care providers, to share health data with the federal government.

    In a statement, the bill’s main sponsor, Democrat Rep. Ann Kuster (NH), said the system would be used to “remind patients when they are due for a recommended vaccine” and identify areas with low vaccination rates to “ensure equitable distribution of vaccines.” Notably, the bill has four Republican co-sponsors: Reps. Larry Bucshon (R-IN), James Baird (R-IN), David McKinley (R-WV), and Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA). Not one Democrat voted in opposition to the bill.

    Rep. Mary Miller (R-IL), who was one of the 130 Republicans to vote “no,” told Breitbart News exclusively on Wednesday that the legislation would enable the federal government to “track” unvaccinated Americans who “will be targeted and forced to comply with Biden’s crazy ‘global vaccination’ vision.”

    “These systems are designed to allow for the sharing of crucial information and maintenance of records. Do we really trust the government to protect our medical records?” Miller said. “The bill’s author even bragged in her press release that these systems will help the government remind patients when they are due for a recommended vaccine and identify areas with low vaccination rates to ensure equitable distribution of vaccines. This was clearly a legislative tool to enforce vaccine mandates and force their Orwellian rules onto those who do not comply.”

    “This legislation would unnecessarily appropriate millions of taxpayer funds intended to expand bureaucracy in Washington. A database solely created to record and collect confidential vaccination information of Americans explicitly encroaches upon individuals’ fundamental right to medical privacy,” Donalds said. . . .

    Miller noted that the legislation paves the way for the government to give blue states millions in taxpayers funds to enforce vaccine mandates. According to the bill’s text, the government could award grants and cooperative agreements to health departments or other local governmental entities for agreeing to adopt the new data collection guidelines set by the CDC.

     

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  12. Skyler Coolidge
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    @Skyler

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

     

    I think we see different parts of the elephant.  In my part, I see companies that acted on the mandate before it was even official.  I see a large company that already lost its government contract and is being replaced but is still enforcing the mandate.  Courts be damned, they will still comply because someday they will want to win the next contract and that will be going to the ones who are willing to bow and scrape.

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  13. Henry Racette Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

     

    I think we see different parts of the elephant. In my part, I see companies that acted on the mandate before it was even official. I see a large company that already lost its government contract and is being replaced but is still enforcing the mandate. Courts be damned, they will still comply because someday they will want to win the next contract and that will be going to the ones who are willing to bow and scrape.

    My friend, let us agree to agree on that point: I am disgusted by these hollow husks of men, these gutless pansies, who run our large corporations. I’ve spent most of my life working for one or another small business, and I have more respect for the owner of a five or ten million a year business who spends his days getting the job done and not giving a damn about diversity or whom he’s offending, and is instead focused on getting the next design debugged and the next machine out the door, than I do for these men-without-chests who cave at the first sign of pushback from the crybabies of wokeness.

    You and I may disagree about the big picture, but I agree with you completely that corporate America is a bunch of sell-outs and sissies.

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  14. Steven Seward Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):
    Aside from the rationalized fiction rewritten in comment #1 being more that a bit condescending and insulting

    I apologize for not including a trigger warning.

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

    They picked a fight and they lost. Doesn’t mean they didn’t bloody us some, doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt people. But they failed to demonstrate that they can push us around any way they want. I see that as a victory. It’s okay if others don’t.

    Some of us don’t think Brandon et al saying they’re going to pause until after the holidays – likely for reasons other than federal judges etc – amounts to a victory.

    Some of you guys are really fighting hard to take a loss on this, and succeeding admirably well.  I don’t know about the rest of ya, but I’m celebrating.  Not only this vaccine mandate issue, but the whole tide of public pushback that has turned against the administration, a lot of it even coming from Democrats.  I’ve never seen the public so anti-democrat in my adult life.

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  15. Steven Seward Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    My friend, let us agree to agree on that point: I am disgusted by these hollow husks of men, these gutless pansies, who run our large corporations. I’ve spent most of my life working for one or another small business, and I have more respect for the owner of a five or ten million a year business who spends his days getting the job done and not giving a damn about diversity or whom he’s offending, and is instead focused on getting the next design debugged and the next machine out the door, than I do for these men-without-chests who cave at the first sign of pushback from the crybabies of wokeness.

    You and I may disagree about the big picture, but I agree with you completely that corporate America is a bunch of sell-outs and sissies.

    Amen, Brother!  I am also dumbfounded when I see large corporations praising Black Lives Matter as if it was a religious charity, and bending over backwards to accommodate perverted sexual communities and practices.  As a matter of pure economic sense, they should just keep their mouths shut.

    A lot of my clients are heads of large companies and I know they are not all like that.  A guy I’m doing a painting for right now is the founder of a large corporation and is a staunch conservative who doesn’t buy into anything woke.  I used to get Christmas letters from the CEO of Lincoln Electric Company who would start the Holiday message by saying stuff like “Obama is destroying our economy, we must fight back!”  Mine and my wife’s favorite Christmas letters!

    On the other hand I was once in a meeting with the CEO of the Cleveland Clinic about 20 years ago when an aide came in to get approval on a hospital newsletter that contained a joke or a cartoon depicting Arabs (although not offensively).  He told her ‘Ya know, Arabs make up a large part of our customers (Arab sheiks and presidents of Arab countries).  I think you better take that out.”  That may have been a compliance with political (or economic) correctness, but pales in comparison with the public groveling some of the modern CEO’s do to win favor with the left.

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    You and I may disagree about the big picture, but I agree with you completely that corporate America is a bunch of sell-outs and sissies.

    It’s really hard to know whether they’re going along with the herd or driving the herd.

    I’d say a little bit of both. So I’m not willing to call them all “sell-outs” when they’re the ones doing the selling.

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):
    Aside from the rationalized fiction rewritten in comment #1 being more that a bit condescending and insulting

    I apologize for not including a trigger warning.

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

    They picked a fight and they lost. Doesn’t mean they didn’t bloody us some, doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt people. But they failed to demonstrate that they can push us around any way they want. I see that as a victory. It’s okay if others don’t.

    Some of us don’t think Brandon et al saying they’re going to pause until after the holidays – likely for reasons other than federal judges etc – amounts to a victory.

    Some of you guys are really fighting hard to take a loss on this, and succeeding admirably well. I don’t know about the rest of ya, but I’m celebrating. Not only this vaccine mandate issue, but the whole tide of public pushback that has turned against the administration, a lot of it even coming from Democrats. I’ve never seen the public so anti-democrat in my adult life.

    I think people are more likely to get relaxed and harder to get to start fighting again, if they’re celebrating a victory because they think it’s basically over and they already won.

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  18. Steven Seward Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):
    Aside from the rationalized fiction rewritten in comment #1 being more that a bit condescending and insulting

    I apologize for not including a trigger warning.

    Look, I simply disagree with Skyler when he says “They proved to everyone that they could force us to get vaccinated.” They proved that they can try, but lots of us didn’t get vaccinated, lots of law suits were filed, at least two federal judges blocked the administration’s overreach, and President* Brandon is now in retreat on the issue.

    They picked a fight and they lost. Doesn’t mean they didn’t bloody us some, doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt people. But they failed to demonstrate that they can push us around any way they want. I see that as a victory. It’s okay if others don’t.

    Some of us don’t think Brandon et al saying they’re going to pause until after the holidays – likely for reasons other than federal judges etc – amounts to a victory.

    Some of you guys are really fighting hard to take a loss on this, and succeeding admirably well. I don’t know about the rest of ya, but I’m celebrating. Not only this vaccine mandate issue, but the whole tide of public pushback that has turned against the administration, a lot of it even coming from Democrats. I’ve never seen the public so anti-democrat in my adult life.

    I think people are more likely to get relaxed and harder to get to start fighting again, if they’re celebrating a victory because they think it’s basically over and they already won.

    Maybe so for the guys in office who make the rules, but for you and me, it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans what we think.  I’ve known guys who watch football on TV who thought that they could influence the game by wearing a lucky shirt or by yelling the right directions at the players.  Just as long as we keep spreading the simple truth to our family and friends, we are doing our part, but one guy on Ricochet (or 1,000) celebrating with a victory dance isn’t going to deter Rand Paul or Ron Disantis from doing their jobs.

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  19. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Maybe so for the guys in office who make the rules, but for you and me, it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans what we think. I’ve known guys who watch football on TV who thought that they could influence the game by wearing a lucky shirt or by yelling the right directions at the players. Just as long as we keep spreading the simple truth to our family and friends, we are doing our part, but one guy on Ricochet (or 1,000) celebrating with a victory dance isn’t going to deter Rand Paul or Ron Disantis from doing their jobs.

    Another reason why we all need to get off the internet and enjoy life.

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  20. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    They’re considering rescinding mandates for federal employees. While that’s an awful lot of people, there were already federal employees that weren’t being required to be vaxxed. Postal workers, for example. Employees at the CDC for some curious reason. I’m pretty sure nobody on Capitol Hill was required either.

    But even though OSHA has pulled back, because the government has threatened businesses with enormous fines, businesses are going forward with it. Especially hospitals.

    Really, all that was ever needed was the threat. Biden’s puppet masters probably knew this was unconstitutional from the start, but figured that a nice threat would be enough to get compliance.

    The question I have, now, is whether the pause in the federal push gives employees more grounds to sue employers who try to force the issue.

    What any hospital franchise that gets sued has on its side is that they are a mega corporation, and can use every mega corporation trick in the book to stall the case, or have it outright dismissed.

    If the individual who is suing does ever get his or her day in court, by then there will be a gazillion citations for the mega corporation to use to defeat the individual.

    We saw this before. Back in the 1990’s when one out of five American service people who had squalene injected into them as part of basic training suffered some measure of disability, and many of them died, so lawsuits were brought against the US military for its mandating these basically untested vaccines. The military simply saw to itr the cases were stalled.

    Stalling helped the defendants out a lot. By the time the cases came to court, there were so many studies produced by US government-supported labs that were offered as “proof” that the vaxxes were safe. Plus then it was suggested that  those attempting to sue were malingerers or motivated by greed, as after all, the vaccines were “safe.”

    It will be the same with any COV vax lawsuits.

     

     

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  21. Skyler Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    He told her ‘Ya know, Arabs make up a large part of our customers (Arab sheiks and presidents of Arab countries).  I think you better take that out.”  That may have been a compliance with political (or economic) correctness, but pales in comparison with the public groveling some of the modern CEO’s do to win favor with the left.

    No, that’s not political correctness.  It’s good business.  Don’t piss off customers by insulting them.  That’s why it makes no sense for companies to go woke.

    Personally I think they do so because behind the scenes organizations like the Rainbow Coalition or Al Sharpton are whispering, “Nice business you got there, it would be a shame if there were a boycott,” and money miraculously flows to them.

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  22. Flicker Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    My friend, let us agree to agree on that point: I am disgusted by these hollow husks of men, these gutless pansies, who run our large corporations. I’ve spent most of my life working for one or another small business, and I have more respect for the owner of a five or ten million a year business who spends his days getting the job done and not giving a damn about diversity or whom he’s offending, and is instead focused on getting the next design debugged and the next machine out the door, than I do for these men-without-chests who cave at the first sign of pushback from the crybabies of wokeness.

    You and I may disagree about the big picture, but I agree with you completely that corporate America is a bunch of sell-outs and sissies.

    Amen, Brother! I am also dumbfounded when I see large corporations praising Black Lives Matter as if it was a religious charity, and bending over backwards to accommodate perverted sexual communities and practices. As a matter of pure economic sense, they should just keep their mouths shut.

    A lot of my clients are heads of large companies and I know they are not all like that. A guy I’m doing a painting for right now is the founder of a large corporation and is a staunch conservative who doesn’t buy into anything woke. I used to get Christmas letters from the CEO of Lincoln Electric Company who would start the Holiday message by saying stuff like “Obama is destroying our economy, we must fight back!” Mine and my wife’s favorite Christmas letters!

    On the other hand I was once in a meeting with the CEO of the Cleveland Clinic about 20 years ago when an aide came in to get approval on a hospital newsletter that contained a joke or a cartoon depicting Arabs (although not offensively). He told her ‘Ya know, Arabs make up a large part of our customers (Arab sheiks and presidents of Arab countries). I think you better take that out.” That may have been a compliance with political (or economic) correctness, but pales in comparison with the public groveling some of the modern CEO’s do to win favor with the left.

    Boy this brings up a couple thoughts.  The five-star Saudi floor at a prestigious east coast hospital, with medical people employed as butlers and maids (I exaggerate only slightly).  And the Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers (it existed once and my still).

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    My friend, let us agree to agree on that point: I am disgusted by these hollow husks of men, these gutless pansies, who run our large corporations. I’ve spent most of my life working for one or another small business, and I have more respect for the owner of a five or ten million a year business who spends his days getting the job done and not giving a damn about diversity or whom he’s offending, and is instead focused on getting the next design debugged and the next machine out the door, than I do for these men-without-chests who cave at the first sign of pushback from the crybabies of wokeness.

    You and I may disagree about the big picture, but I agree with you completely that corporate America is a bunch of sell-outs and sissies.

    Amen, Brother! I am also dumbfounded when I see large corporations praising Black Lives Matter as if it was a religious charity, and bending over backwards to accommodate perverted sexual communities and practices. As a matter of pure economic sense, they should just keep their mouths shut.

    A lot of my clients are heads of large companies and I know they are not all like that. A guy I’m doing a painting for right now is the founder of a large corporation and is a staunch conservative who doesn’t buy into anything woke. I used to get Christmas letters from the CEO of Lincoln Electric Company who would start the Holiday message by saying stuff like “Obama is destroying our economy, we must fight back!” Mine and my wife’s favorite Christmas letters!

    On the other hand I was once in a meeting with the CEO of the Cleveland Clinic about 20 years ago when an aide came in to get approval on a hospital newsletter that contained a joke or a cartoon depicting Arabs (although not offensively). He told her ‘Ya know, Arabs make up a large part of our customers (Arab sheiks and presidents of Arab countries). I think you better take that out.” That may have been a compliance with political (or economic) correctness, but pales in comparison with the public groveling some of the modern CEO’s do to win favor with the left.

    Boy this brings up a couple thoughts. The five-star Saudi floor at a prestigious east coast hospital, with medical people employed as butlers and maids (I exaggerate only slightly). And the Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers (it existed once and my still).

    Bruce Wayne had to take out extra insurance on Alfred.

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  24. Steven Seward Member
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    Boy this brings up a couple thoughts. The five-star Saudi floor at a prestigious east coast hospital, with medical people employed as butlers and maids (I exaggerate only slightly). And the Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers (it existed once and my still).

    Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers?  I must have missed that in history class.

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  25. Flicker Coolidge
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    Boy this brings up a couple thoughts. The five-star Saudi floor at a prestigious east coast hospital, with medical people employed as butlers and maids (I exaggerate only slightly). And the Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers (it existed once and my still).

    Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers? I must have missed that in history class.

    It was, I don’t know five or ten years ago.  I can’t find it now (not even sure how to search), but it involved a ring of Saudis who enslaved, traded, and apparently sold butlers.  My wife says she thinks they were mostly kidnapped from the UK, but I don’t recall that specifically.

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  26. Skyler Coolidge
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    Boy this brings up a couple thoughts. The five-star Saudi floor at a prestigious east coast hospital, with medical people employed as butlers and maids (I exaggerate only slightly). And the Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers (it existed once and my still).

    Saudi slave trade in kidnapped butlers? I must have missed that in history class.

    It was, I don’t know five or ten years ago. I can’t find it now (not even sure how to search), but it involved a ring of Saudis who enslaved, traded, and apparently sold butlers. My wife says she thinks they were mostly kidnapped from the UK, but I don’t recall that specifically.

    I vaguely remember that, but my web searches failed to find anything.  It wasn’t just butlers, it was all manner of household staff.

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  27. Steven Seward Member
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    The Senate just voted 52-48 to rescind Biden’s Federal Vaccine Mandate, getting Democrats Jon Tester and Joe Manchin to vote with Republicans.  Folks, we are not losing this battle.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/senate-votes-to-repeal-bidens-vaccine-mandate-for-businesses/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=breaking&utm_campaign=newstrack&utm_term=25976490

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  28. James Salerno Inactive
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    County executive here in Oneida County, NY just reinstated mask orders starting next Monday. Even for the vaccinated. The unvaxxed must also be temperature checked. All public indoor facilities.

    Not doing this anymore. Not wearing a mask, not showing papers. I am prepared for confrontation if that’s what they’re asking for. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.

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  29. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    My youngest was upset because she wanted to go skating at the city’s indoor rink, but they required masks. Oldest daughter said she couldn’t do physical activity with a mask on and wouldn’t go inside.

    Many tears. Much angst.

    They’d better get the outdoor rinks open soon.

    Which reminds me that I need to write to the city about their evil two-tiered social system.

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  30. Steven Seward Member
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    James Salerno (View Comment):

    County executive here in Oneida County, NY just reinstated mask orders starting next Monday. Even for the vaccinated. The unvaxxed must also be temperature checked. All public indoor facilities.

    Not doing this anymore. Not wearing a mask, not showing papers. I am prepared for confrontation if that’s what they’re asking for. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.

    Oneida is a rural county where less than one-in-a-thousand people are currently testing positive for Coronavirus per day.  What gets me about things like this, and DeBlasio’s recent vaccine mandate in New York City, is that New York State has had one of the lowest death rates in the country after originally being the worst place nearly two years ago.  If you’re worried about Coronavirus, it is now one of the safest places in America.  So this is all about the science, eh?

    Here’s the New York State graph:

     

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