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How (Not) to Respond to a Celebrated Trial Verdict
Call me an outlier, but I’m not one of those cheering or condemning the verdict from the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
That’s because judicial trials, especially jury trials, are not political campaigns. Or, they shouldn’t be. We should only cheer for justice based on the preponderance of evidence courtesy of a jury of peers fairly selected and a trial well-administered by a seasoned judge.
We honor, trust, and respect, not celebrate or condemn, the verdict. Either way. That’s the way it is supposed to work. Whether we may agree or not.
But it doesn’t anymore, especially in the cesspool of social media and the swamps of mainstream media. Where all things are political. Today’s celebrated trials are no different from football games, where we show up in our jerseys, seating ourselves on the right side of the field, and cheering for our team to win while trashing the referees and challenging the outcomes. We are beginning to resemble the fall of the Roman Empire.
I appreciate the point you’re making, Kelly. At the same time, I will defend celebration in light of this jury decision. For those of us who were convinced by the available evidence that Mr. Rittenhouse acted in legitimate self-defense and was grotesquely misrepresented by a corrupt press, his conviction would have prompted us to believe that justice was being subverted for political reasons. Prevailing in court was a victory worth celebrating — not just for Mr. Rittenhouse, but for due process itself.
The cheering isn’t for the verdict, it’s for Justice having prevailed against a biased system; against a media that lied about every single of the case, prevailed against the demands of the crazed mob, prevailed against all the forces darkness could muster.
Victories are rare for the forces of light these days; so, yeah, when we get one, we celebrate.
When Rittenhouse collapsed after the fifth verdict was read, was that for justice, or for the getting his life partially back? I am glad that the court system worked in this case, but I’m more glad that for Rittenhouse justice was partially restored. :)
Your “he might have a case” link keeps going to “install app” scams.
Sorry.
We live in a time when injustice is the order of the
daydecade. When justice on a political charge occurs in a long list of injustices completely weighted to one side of the isle . celebration is appropriate. If the mob would have won in this case , despair would have been appropriate too.Our liberties are at stake for God’s sake.
Who are you? Scrolling past.
Yes and no and maybe and nah, and all the other words. That said, Roman trials were dodgy long before the fall, with lots of theatrics and corruption.
As for the other point, trials have been political events for a very long time in our Republic.
Some trials, definitely. But it’s been getting more and more prevalent.
That is a good description of the prosecution of this trial.
In Roman times, the accused would often show up in rags, looking depressed, presenting a pitiful sight to work the jury’s sympathy. The jurors dropped guilty / not-guilty tokens into a vase, but a canny court official could palm the proper tokens when announcing the verdict. Better sometimes to have a superior orator on your side than the facts – but too bad for you if a Cicero came along and blew your lawyer out of the courtroom with a new style of oratory that made your lawyer look like a bloviating theatrical Greek!
(That said, Verres was guilty, and Hortensius was probably past his prime.)
This was key. They could have easily said, “We don’t want to see Kenosha burn, so let’s throw this guy to the wolves and go home.”
They didn’t, and that takes guts . . .
I feel less celebration than overwhelming relief.
I too am uneasy with criminal justice as theater and normally would join you in bemoaning the fall of Western Civilization. But trials and executions have always attracted morbid attention, as far as I know. I believe hangings used to be a spectator sport-we only need to go back 100 or so years, not 2000. But, just like in our frontier times, if the law isn’t there to maintain order, others will step in. To me, that was the precipitating factor. https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/06/weekinreview/the-last-hanging-there-was-a-reason-they-outlawed-public.html
I applaud the poster for making his primary point about the absence of fathers in childrens lives leading to bad results.
I’m always glad to see this point brought up, as the Left’s war against fatherhood and the nuclear family in general is the most pernicious part of their program. The push for universal government Pre-K in the disgusting BBB bill is a big part of that.
I think that is fair. I was very concerned about erosion of the right of self-defense. I was also appalled over attempts to expose and intimidate the jury.
We cheered because Justice prevailed. We cheered because we thought there was a good chance the jury could be intimidated into convicting an obviously innocent young man, and we were deeply relieved when they stood up to the threats and intimidation by handing down a correct verdict based on the law and the facts of the case. We cheered because a young man who was being railroaded by a corrupt and malicious prosecutor won his freedom despite their best efforts to manipulate the jury to lock him up. We cheered because the entire unholy leftwing alliance of big government, big media, and big tech had it out for Kyle Rittenhouse regardless of the facts and the law, and Rittenhouse won anyway. We cheered for Justice and we cheered for Kyle. We will keep cheering for a long time. And we won’t apologize for it.
The boy’s parents were divorced. The father was not absent. He lived/lives in Kenosha. Kyle worked as a lifeguard in Kenosha, which is at most 20 miles from where mom lives. He spent time with both parents. I’m not privy to the family dynamic, but I’d say that despite his parents divorce he has turned out to be a good kid.
And as for the argument that he had no business being there that night, he had as much right to be there as any other citizen. However, he obviously had absolutely no idea the level of evil he would encounter. He’s a good kid and he and his family have a lot to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.
This is the larger and, to my mind, more important story. So much of what is going on now is due to simple lack of adult supervision and male role-modeling. Young men without fathers are prone to expressing their masculinity in all the wrongs ways; some in criminal gangs, others in violent political movements like Antifa, many just can’t resist the opportunity to engage in mayhem when the opportunity arises.
The best of them try to do it positively, and Kyle Rittenhouse falls in this category. He was doing good that day cleaning graffiti, and trying to good that night with his AR-15. That doesn’t mean going out there with a rifle was a wise thing for a high schooler to do. The first reaction both my father and I had on seeing the Rittenhouse videos last year was: What is a 17 year old doing out on the streets with an AR-15 in a riot? Specifically, what father is going to let his high school kid out on the street with an AR-15, under any circumstances? Of course, as it turns out, there wasn’t a father, or a mother, involved in the decision.
Kyle Rittenhouse is a good kid, but good 17 year olds still are immature and often show poor judgment. Would any of this be happening if, say, 80% of boys were raised in intact families with fathers? It’s just going to get worse until that changes.
Sorry but you are just naive. Major Trials have and will always have a political component to them. How to due you think John Adams came to be well known. Patice Henery? A trial of course.
There has been a long history of the politicization of trials and there always will be its human nature. You just have a utopian viewpoint.
So our judicial system is breaking down and that will not change until Republicans stop lying grow a par and start to viciously go after sovereign immunity.
So the Captial Riot Shaman gets 41 months (the guy the police let in). The same day Kyle get off, a none violent silly man making a political point gets his life ruined.
Plus if it were not for all the publicity this might of turned out very different because Kyle could not afford anything but a public defender. Only if voters and Republican Lawmakers take a lesson on this and start to make laws and check on proctored misconduct (maybe like making withholding evidence a felony that the victim can prosecute).
However, I doubt that will happen. Because it is the stupid party after all who just talks smack and does not due squat when it comes to aggressively protecting natural rights.
Clearly, you don’t know how to respond right. :)
Well under 1% of trials in the U.S. have any political significance at all. It is easy to get overwhelmed into thinking that everything is just like the tiny minority of cases that get publicized by our 24-hour media and Internet.
Well, and then there’s Jesus.