13 Republican Congressmen Save Pelosi, Biden on $1.2T Infrastructure Vote

 

Six Democrats voted against the $1.2 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Plan (BIF) late Friday night, which should have killed the legislation. Instead, 13 Republicans rode to Nancy Pelosi’s rescue and voted yes. The BIF passed the Senate nearly two months ago, so the legislation will head straight to the White House for the President’s signature.

Here are the Republicans for Pelosi:

  • Rep. Don Bacon (R–NE)
  • Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R–PA)
  • Rep. Andrew Garbarino (R–NY)
  • Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R–OH)
  • Rep. John Katko (R–NY)
  • Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R–IL)
  • Rep. Nicole Malliatokis (R–NY)
  • Rep. David McKinley (R–WV)
  • Rep. Tom Reed (R–NY)
  • Rep. Chris Smith (R–NJ)
  • Rep. Fred Upton (R–MI)
  • Rep. Jeff Van Drew (R–NJ)
  • Rep. Don Young (R–AK)

Despite Democrats not having the necessary support, the final vote was 228-206 thanks to these 13 Republicans. Each should be primaried, at least those who aren’t retiring. And it’s time for Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R–CA) to be removed as House Minority Leader since he has demonstrated brutal incompetence.

For the record, here are the six Democrats who voted against the bill:

  • Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D–NY)
  • Rep. Cori Bush (D–MO)
  • Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–NY)
  • Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–MN)
  • Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D–MA)
  • Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D–MI)
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  1. Jeff Petraska Member
    Jeff Petraska
    @JeffPetraska

    I’m having a hard time getting worked up over this.  It already passed the Senate with bipartisan support, and now it’s passed the house with bipartisan support.  It was the smaller and less objectionable of the two bills.  Is it too much to assume that getting the thirteen Republicans to support it was just another example of typical congressional sausage-making?  Did any of us really think this bill was never, ever going to be passed?

     

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  2. Randy Webster Inactive
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    @RandyWebster

    Jeff Petraska (View Comment):

    I’m having a hard time getting worked up over this. It already passed the Senate with bipartisan support, and now it’s passed the house with bipartisan support. It was the smaller and less objectionable of the two bills. Is it too much to assume that getting the thirteen Republicans to support it was just another example of typical congressional sausage-making? Did any of us really think this bill was never, ever going to be passed?

     

    I agree.  Why aren’t the Republican Senators who voted for it being castigated?  As best I can recall, it passed with a veto-proof majority.

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  3. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Jeff Petraska (View Comment):
    Is it too much to assume that getting the thirteen Republicans to support it was just another example of typical congressional sausage-making?

    Whoever came up with the idea of branding bribes, payoffs, and graft as “sausage-making” was brilliant. It makes the corruption sound so tasty.

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  4. Viruscop Inactive
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Trump talked up infrastructure for years but did nothing.

    It turns out that Biden is a greater builder than Trump.

    Why Trump did not do this deal is beyond me. He could have gotten $10 billion to finish the dang wall also.

    Trump can’t actually build anything.

    James Salerno (View Comment):
    This is why the Confederacy was right to ban internal improvements at the central level. Not that they were ever permitted under the United States constitution in the first place, but who cares about all that boring originalism stuff, right?

    And the Confederacy collapsed. Maybe if it had spent more on infrastructure it would still exist, but happily it collapsed.

    It was a hinderance more than any help to the Confederacy. The limited amount of railroads meant that it was difficult to move troops rapidly between states. It also hindered trade between states. From what I understand, Mississippi rail wasn’t even the same gauge as the rest of the Confederacy, so there would be an interval where cargo would have to be shipped by animal-drawn wagons and placed on a new train.

    bad infrastructure favored the defense- like Russia vs Napoleon & Hitler. An invading army had to tie up a lot of resources to ensure supply- just look at the manpower required to garisson troops all the way back to their starting point-a huge drain on manpower. Additionally, wagon trains require large amounts of fodder (an ox eats more than they can pull if they travel more than a couple of days). A defense force lives off their own land and doesn’t have to guard supplies & fear the local inhabitants. While the South had trouble shifting forces from the east & the west, the North had much greater trouble sustaining their troops in a hostile environment. The deeper the invasion, the greater the trouble as supply lines became further lengthened-all the while the enemy fell back on supportive territory. The South could also destroy infrastructure & supply as they fell back, thereby worsening the burden on the North.

    I don’t disagree with this, I just don’t think it is worth it for the defense. The Northern armies ended up living off the Southern land, so the lack of Southern infrastructure really didn’t hurt the North as much as you make it seem, but it did cripple the Confederacy’s ability to simultaneously defend against invasion in all theaters.

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  5. Roderic Coolidge
    Roderic
    @rhfabian

    This is the bill dealing with actual infrastructure, no?   As one whose travel was held up by the broken I-40 bridge in Memphis, I think some investment in bridges and such is a good idea.   A large number of large bridges are overdue for renovation, and the roads suck.  Do we want more like the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis that killed a bunch of people in 2007?  Things like that should not be happening in a first world country.   I don’t know that much about the bill and whether the policies it advances are all good, though.  And then there’s the national debt, of course.

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  6. Randy Webster Inactive
    Randy Webster
    @RandyWebster

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):
    Is it too much to assume that getting the thirteen Republicans to support it was just another example of typical congressional sausage-making?

    Whoever came up with the idea of branding bribes, payoffs, and graft as “sausage-making” was brilliant. It makes the corruption sound so tasty.

    Fooled by the reply button again.  That was part of Jeff’s comment.

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  7. Randy Webster Inactive
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    @RandyWebster

    Viruscop (View Comment):
    I don’t disagree with this, I just don’t think it is worth it for the defense. The Northern armies ended up living off the Southern land, so the lack of Southern infrastructure really didn’t hurt the North as much as you make it seem, but it did cripple the Confederacy’s ability to simultaneously defend against invasion in all theaters.

    It didn’t have the manpower to do it anyway.

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  8. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Zafar (View Comment):

    More seriously, is there a consequence to Dems and Reps getting proof that they can pass legislation together and bypass the extreme Left and (arguable) Right? Is this bad news for ideologues and Bittereinders on both sides of politics?

    Well, this proof costs a lot of money for a start. 

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  9. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Randy Webster (View Comment):
    Why aren’t the Republican Senators who voted for it being castigated?  As best I can recall, it passed with a veto-proof majority.

    I wonder how many will show up at the signing ceremony. Romney will, he’s practically a Democrat. Susan Collins  probably, for the same reason. Murkowki, ditto, the Alaska snowblower is as dirty as they come. Portman, probably, he’s not up for re-election. Cocaine Mitch probably won’t be invited.

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  10. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Randy Webster (View Comment):
    Fooled by the reply button again. 

    Curse the reply button.

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  11. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Trump talked up infrastructure for years but did nothing.

    It turns out that Biden is a greater builder than Trump.

    Why Trump did not do this deal is beyond me. He could have gotten $10 billion to finish the dang wall also.

    Trump can’t actually build anything.

    James Salerno (View Comment):
    This is why the Confederacy was right to ban internal improvements at the central level. Not that they were ever permitted under the United States constitution in the first place, but who cares about all that boring originalism stuff, right?

    And the Confederacy collapsed. Maybe if it had spent more on infrastructure it would still exist, but happily it collapsed.

    You have an odd definition of “collapsed.”

    From definition 2 in Merriam-Webster:

    to break down completely : DISINTEGRATE

     

    It didn’t collapse.  It was collapsed.  It was conquered.

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  12. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Roderic (View Comment):

    This is the bill dealing with actual infrastructure, no? As one whose travel was held up by the broken I-40 bridge in Memphis, I think some investment in bridges and such is a good idea. A large number of large bridges are overdue for renovation, and the roads suck. Do we want more like the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis that killed a bunch of people in 2007? Things like that should not be happening in a first world country. I don’t know that much about the bill and whether the policies it advances are all good, though. And then there’s the national debt, of course.

    It’s a messy topic. It would be pretty interesting to hear an ordinary conservative economist debate and Austrian economist on this stuff.

    I think the public tends to think of it as 70% stimulus and 30% productivity. 

    Do they spend money on things with obvious productivity increases? 

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  13. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Zafar (View Comment):
    More seriously, is there a consequence to Dems and Reps getting proof that they can pass legislation together and bypass the extreme Left and (arguable) Right?

    It only happens with Democrat priorities. Republicans get absolutely zero Democrats crossing the aisle to support border security, entitlement reform, or school choice.

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  14. Viruscop Inactive
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    @Viruscop

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    More seriously, is there a consequence to Dems and Reps getting proof that they can pass legislation together and bypass the extreme Left and (arguable) Right?

    It only happens with Democrat priorities. Republicans get absolutely zero Democrats crossing the aisle to support border security, entitlement reform, or school choice.

    How would GOP initiatives benefit Democrat constituencies?

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  15. Doug Watt Member
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    $500 million grant for the Healthy Streets Program allows cities to “provide funding to deploy cool and porous pavements and expand tree cover to mitigate urban heat islands, improve air quality, and reduce flood risks.”

    Porous pavement is what we called potholes at one time, and the mother of all potholes are called sinkholes.

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  16. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    There is simply no way that taking on 1.2 trillion dollars of liabilities in order to get up to (but probably a lot less) than 300 billion in repairs, improvements, and maintenance can be considered fiscally responsible. 

    Try doing that ratio with a home-improvement loan and see how far you get. 

    And this is before we even consider that we have already reserved money for infrastructure that has been diverted. There is the added cost too, of allowing the word ‘infrastructure’ to be rendered so meaningless is to accept a contempt from our government and adopt a helpless cynicism that makes one think of Soviet-era lies. 

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  17. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Under Baltimore, the almost 150 year old B&P tunnel is so tight that the Amtrak trains must slow to 30 miles per hour to transit it.

    Everything Wrong with American Infrastructure in One Tunnel

    The current tunnel, which was built by a bunch of guys with pickaxes and dynamite in the 1870s, took two years to complete. And though it’s outdated now, it has lasted 148 years, so it’s not like they did a terrible job. Somehow, despite all the technological developments that have completely transformed our lives since the 1870s, it now takes six times longer to build its replacement. And $2.7 billion for the new two-mile-long replacement tunnel comes out to $1.35 billion per mile. To put this in perspective, consider the Gotthard Base Tunnel in Switzerland. It opened in 2016 and cost about $12 billion. That’s a lot more than $2.7 billion, but the Gotthard Base Tunnel is the deepest tunnel in the world, bored through the Alps, and it’s 35 miles long. That comes out to a cost of $343 million per mile. So, for roughly a quarter of the cost per mile that it takes the United States to replace an existing tunnel that’s only a few dozen feet underground, the Swiss can build a completely new marvel of engineering through a mountain range. … American infrastructure is not crumbling, and there’s no nationwide crisis or emergency demanding a massive federal response. There is, however, a 148-year-old rail tunnel in Maryland that needs replacing. Funding that project should not require assent to a national political agenda, but our backward infrastructure funding process means it does. And our money-first, projects-later mentality means we end up spending lots of money on not a lot of projects.” — Dominic Pino, nationalreview.com

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/everything-wrong-with-american-infrastructure-in-one-tunnel/

     

    It took about 3 or 4 years to build Hoover dam, in the middle of the desert, in the middle of the depression.  This including building an entire city for the workers.

    In the 1980s/1990s, it took more than 10 years to build a new visitor center for the dam.

     

     

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    @TheReticulator

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Another reminder that the Tea Party is dead.

    Not around here, it isn’t.  I personally know two of the leaders of the local Tea Party, though I haven’t gone to any of their meetings.  I’ve been invited, though, and might show up sometime.  

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  19. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Roderic (View Comment):

    This is the bill dealing with actual infrastructure, no? As one whose travel was held up by the broken I-40 bridge in Memphis, I think some investment in bridges and such is a good idea. A large number of large bridges are overdue for renovation, and the roads suck. Do we want more like the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis that killed a bunch of people in 2007? Things like that should not be happening in a first world country. I don’t know that much about the bill and whether the policies it advances are all good, though. And then there’s the national debt, of course.

    I wonder how many of the new bridges will be built incorrectly, like the I-35 bridge was.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-35W_Mississippi_River_bridge

     

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  20. Jeff Petraska Member
    Jeff Petraska
    @JeffPetraska

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Jeff Petraska (View Comment):
    Is it too much to assume that getting the thirteen Republicans to support it was just another example of typical congressional sausage-making?

    Whoever came up with the idea of branding bribes, payoffs, and graft as “sausage-making” was brilliant. It makes the corruption sound so tasty.

    I blame Lin Manuel-Miranda.

     

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  21. The Widow Patterson Member
    The Widow Patterson
    @jeannebodine

    When last published, the bill had less than 25% going to actual infrastructure.

    It did, however, contain the following golden nuggets:

    $10 Billion to Create a ‘Civilian Climate Corp”;

    $20 Billion to ‘Advance Racial Equity and Environmental Justice;

    $175 Billion in Subsidies for Electric Vehicles;

    213 Billion to Build/Retrofit 2 Million Houses & Buildings;

    $100 Billion for New Public Schools and Making School Lunches ‘Greener’;

    $12 Billion for Community Colleges;

    Billions to Eliminate ‘Racial and Gender Inequities’ in STEM;

    $100 Billion to Expand Broadband Internet (And Government Control of It);

    $25 Billion for Government Childcare Programs.

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  22. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    The Widow Patterson (View Comment):

    When last published, the bill had less than 25% going to actual infrastructure.

    It did, however, contain the following golden nuggets:

    $10 Billion to Create a ‘Civilian Climate Corp”;

    $20 Billion to ‘Advance Racial Equity and Environmental Justice;

    $175 Billion in Subsidies for Electric Vehicles;

    213 Billion to Build/Retrofit 2 Million Houses & Buildings;

    $100 Billion for New Public Schools and Making School Lunches ‘Greener’;

    $12 Billion for Community Colleges;

    Billions to Eliminate ‘Racial and Gender Inequities’ in STEM;

    $100 Billion to Expand Broadband Internet (And Government Control of It);

    $25 Billion for Government Childcare Programs.

    So I suppose we could refer to it as the Twenty-Five Percent Infrastructure Bill.  

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  23. Viruscop Inactive
    Viruscop
    @Viruscop

    Maybe if you had said “Let’s go Brandon” some more it would have stopped the bill from being passed.

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  24. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Maybe if you had said “Let’s go Brandon” some more it would have stopped the bill from being passed.

    So now the playground bully is laughing at the kids he threw into the mud for not wearing clean clothes to school.  Such a charming personality. It will serve him well in life.  

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  25. I Walton Member
    I Walton
    @IWalton

    Hang On (View Comment):

    I Walton (View Comment):

    The arguments don’t hold water. Infrastructure should be locally funded and locally selected. If Federal it will be loaded with pork. Good lord that’s the whole point. Local stuff has pork as well and local folks have to fight over it as well. Folks continue with the fiction that folks who live in Washington, Bureaucrats and permanent representatives focus on the tens of thousands of towns and cities and rural areas that constitute the US. They do not.

    So there would be huge gaps in infrastructure in the middle of the country with small populations. Some plan.

      What infrastructure is needed in Nebraska that Nebraskans can’t do?

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  26. Joker Member
    Joker
    @Joker

    First of all, what am I getting?

    Did the bill suspend the usual environmental impact nonsense that drags all construction projects on forever? If this infrastructure is so vital that we had to pass it now, shouldn’t we fast track it by cutting the red tape?

    The tunnels do transport large numbers of people between states. Those are jobs, corporate headquarters, residents and all the attendent taxes on both ends of the tunnel. That free flow of people and goods is a tax bonanza for those states, and if they want that to work better, the states that benefit should pay for it.

    Federal fuel taxes are around a quarter per gallon, theoretically dedicated to maintenance and improvement of federal roads. State tax varies, but the principal remains the same. These are taxes imposed on the users of the infrastructure, the purest, bestest kinda tax levied directly on the parties that cause government spending. What went so far wrong that we need this steaming pile of fertilizer?

    And Viruscop:

    How would GOP initiatives benefit Democrat constituencies?

    Didn’t Pelosi refuse to pass covid relief last summer? Was that intended only for red states or something? Did Democrat constituancies benefit in any way from Operation Warp Speed, the border wall (such as it currenty is), the new US/Canada/Mexico trade agreement, the impositon of tarrifs on Chinese imports made with slave labor, pulling out of the Paris Accords where we get to pay underdeveloped countries for being underdeveloped or the tax and regulatory reductions that led to the lowest minority unemployment in history. Honestly, do you think only Republicans benefited from those initiatives?

     

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  27. Viruscop Inactive
    Viruscop
    @Viruscop

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Viruscop (View Comment):

    Maybe if you had said “Let’s go Brandon” some more it would have stopped the bill from being passed.

    So now the playground bully is laughing at the kids he threw into the mud for not wearing clean clothes to school. Such a charming personality. It will serve him well in life.

    I don’t quite get what this means, and it sounds like some culturally out of touch phrase in a rural hellhole that could use some infrastructure, but are you saying that I’m responsible for the passage of the infrastructure bill? If so, I take full credit.

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  28. Hang On Member
    Hang On
    @HangOn

     

    bad infrastructure favored the defense- like Russia vs Napoleon & Hitler. An invading army had to tie up a lot of resources to ensure supply- just look at the manpower required to garisson troops all the way back to their starting point-a huge drain on manpower. Additionally, wagon trains require large amounts of fodder (an ox eats more than they can pull if they travel more than a couple of days). A defense force lives off their own land and doesn’t have to guard supplies & fear the local inhabitants. While the South had trouble shifting forces from the east & the west, the North had much greater trouble sustaining their troops in a hostile environment. The deeper the invasion, the greater the trouble as supply lines became further lengthened-all the while the enemy fell back on supportive territory. The South could also destroy infrastructure & supply as they fell back, thereby worsening the burden on the North.

    The south couldn’t destroy the rivers, which the north often used to their advantage. 

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  29. BillJackson Inactive
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    @BillJackson

    Percival (View Comment):

    If Adam Kinzinger was any more of a tool, he’d have “Stanley” stamped on his butt.

    I heard from a friend back home that Kinzinger is thinking of running for Governor of Illinois. The only thing in Illinois he should be running for is the state line.

    To be fair, he’s still be better than J.B. Pritzker. 

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  30. Viruscop Inactive
    Viruscop
    @Viruscop

    Joker (View Comment):

    And Viruscop:

    How would GOP initiatives benefit Democrat constituencies?

    Didn’t Pelosi refuse to pass covid relief last summer? Was that intended only for red states or something? Did Democrat constituancies benefit in any way from Operation Warp Speed, the border wall (such as it currenty is), the new US/Canada/Mexico trade agreement, the impositon of tarrifs on Chinese imports made with slave labor, pulling out of the Paris Accords where we get to pay underdeveloped countries for being underdeveloped or the tax and regulatory reductions that led to the lowest minority unemployment in history. Honestly, do you think only Republicans benefited from those initiatives?

    The tariffs, the wall (such as it is), and Operation Warp Speed were not pieces of legislation, so they don’t apply here and I’m not going to talk them.

    The trade agreement really isn’t much different from NAFTA, but it was designed to fool stupid people into thinking that Trump was making a difference somewhere.

    The only item where you might have a point is Covid relief, but Trump railed against McConnell at least as much as Pelosi for not doling out more money. In the end, Democrats did give people more money than the GOP.

     

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