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How Do We Get More People to Get the Vaccine?
I am watching (I have not finished, I wanted to get my thoughts down right away…stupid memory) the latest episode of Good Fellows from the Hoover Institution. They are talking about the new wave of COVID-19 cases and vaccine hesitancy. John Cochrane implied that we need to have more businesses say they require vaccination, which I totally disagree with. Then when asked how they would get more people to take the vaccine H.R. McMaster said to tell them it’s not for them it’s for others, again I disagree with this. Niall Ferguson then says that people are vaccinated against the vaccine, and we need to do a better job of mocking the anti-vax memes and propaganda … yes, please!
Just to be clear, I and my husband, just got through a breakthrough case (probably Delta) after we were fully vaxxed in April. I get a flu shot every year and have been mocking anti-vaxxer’s for years. With that said, I am surrounded by friends and family that have no interest in getting the COVID vaccine and I don’t blame them.
We were told masks don’t work, but found out that was a ploy to stop people from using up the supply of N95s, then we were told that masks work, but to date have not seen any supporting data, but then that we need two (or was it three?) masks, but just mask up because it works. This whole pandemic and the CDC and other government health agencies have been used as political pawns for a year and a half. We were told to lock down for 15 days that turned into months for some, we were given curfews as if the virus was worse at night, I could go on and on with the mandates that had zero basis in data, all while the ones making the orders had different rules like Pelosi and her hair, and Newsom and his dinner … again, on and on with examples.
Right now, they are telling pregnant women to get an injection that is only nine months old, with no possible way to have data on the effects on the unborn. There is name-calling and virtue signaling from the left as usual, so how much of this virus is just that? We need more data from non-government-controlled sources (because obviously each admin can use the CDC for politics). The only way for people to get information is the internet. And this morning, we find out that our government is going to start recommending booster shots after 8 months because … get this … the vaccine is not effective at keeping your antibodies up!
John Cochran was spot on, in his answer to what we need to do to get people to vaccinate, more data. But it cant come from the government. I have a CDC poster that says “Be sure your mask cover[s] your nose and mouth to keep you from getting and spreading COVID-19” as if a mask will keep you from getting or spreading the virus!
Guilting and shunning people that chose not to vax is going to prove hesitant people right; it’s all a political ploy to get them to conform. The more our trusted sources like the Good Fellows say that the unvaxxed need to be shunned by not being allowed to have a life, or guilted by saying you are killing granny, the more people we are losing to this fight.
We need data, real data — do masks do anything against the virus? What are the numbers of children dying (we can see CDC data on this and the numbers are crazy low; they are at more risk from the flu), so why are we implementing children wearing masks when even during a very bad flu season masks were never an option.
Stop treating us like children, stop all the political games, just the facts and use the facts to mock the false information. Bring the false information to the front, including stupid CDC lies, and mock it.
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No, they aren’t saying that. I’m a pro-covid vaccine person, and I’m not even claiming we can or should attempt to eradicate covid.
Many on the left are. But if that is not the case, then why do I have to get vaccinated?
I don’t plan to. I earned my immunity the old fashioned way.
You don’t have to get vaccinated AFAIK, and I’d like to keep it that way. But the good that a vaccine does isn’t dependent on eradicating the disease. The only disease we’ve eradicated with a vaccine is smallpox, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t good reasons to require many of the other vaccines in certain situations.
Did she quit, yet?
They may not want to kill ALL of us, but they also don’t necessarily care if a good chunk of people do die, or are unable to have children in the future. That may also explain a certain urgency of concern over the fact that POC (People Of Color) seem to be most “hesistant,” the left has a history of eugenics going back at least to Margaret Sanger for certain. And, the left also believes that the Earth would be better off with fewer people.
Why in the world do you believe this? I do believe that there are far left and far right crazy people that truly don’t care if large groups of people die off, but they are very few. As a rule Americans are good people, most of us want the same things. Acting like everyone that votes different than you is out to kill you is ridiculous. Yes the left has a dirty past but so does the right. There is no benefit to the government for large numbers of people to die off.
Some people on the left specifically want that – at least for everyone but themselves – and many more are just ignorant, follow-the-leader types; but they do want the same thing, even if not for the same result, and they can easily combine forces.
I have observed the same phenomenon.
Actually a fair amount of them are saying it. That and the reason we have variants such as delta is because the anti vac people are not vaccinating so must be forced by law and …
Even without specific evidence, I’d be more likely to believe that the virus is reacting/mutating in response to the vaccine(s), not to the un-vaccinated.
Resistant bacteria are a result of people (mis)using antibiotics, not because they DON’T use them.
I just heard that yesterday . . . from someone who I generally think of as intelligent-ish.
Actually, it was more like “Well, we could have eradicated it, but we missed our chance because not enough people got vaccinated, so now it’ll be endemic.” No, actually, real scientists were saying well over a year ago that COVID will now always be with us.
I suspect that the virus is mutating is because that is what they do. It is how they survive. Every time a virus infects people it mutates to some degree. Most of these do not do anything useful and drop out. Every once in a while a mutation is effective and takes hold so then you have a variant. Since people are getting sick vac and not vac then mutations are going to happen no matter what.
Maybe. But one side-effect of all medications including vaccines is that they work to kill the ones they’re effective on, which leaves the ones they aren’t effective on to become more numerous.
Hmmm. I actually see very little “anti-vax” memes or propaganda, but plenty of logically skeptical questioning about the data and analysis, and the lack thereof, since for this particular innovative mRNA-style vaccine, it is all very new. But I do see an overwhelming amount of “pro-this-particular-vaccine” propaganda, that goes way beyond the data. Attack that, and some credibility might just start creeping back into the various health-related agencies that are failing to do their jobs.
How do we get more people to get the vaccine?
Simple. Roving teams of vaccinators armed with rifles in open Jeeps, Land Rovers or Toyota Land Cruisers can chase down the unvaccinated in store parking lots or other public venues and dart them. If they inadvertently dart an already vaccinated human, no problem because the targeted human was probably due for a booster anyway.
I am just trying to be helpful.
You’re welcome.
I presume you’re talking about people on TV rather than real people.
I see just the reverse, but that’s probably because I spend considerable time on Ricochet and zero time with the MSM.
No, folk I work with.
My sympathies.
New since March, eh? Welcome to Ricochet!
And good post.
Censorship of honest and legitimate questions–rather than answering them–is a surefire way to move vaccine-hesitant people into the vaccine-skeptical column.
Kedavis:
“Even without specific evidence, I’d be more likely to believe that the virus is reacting/mutating in response to the vaccine(s), not to the un-vaccinated.
Resistant bacteria are a result of people (mis)using antibiotics, not because they DON’T use them.”
Noble prize winning Virologist Llc Montagnier has been saying since last November that the vaccines will cause a lot more variants.
BTW, for those worried about Delta. My doctor called several labs asking if they were testing for the Delta Variant. They all said the same thing:
A. No they weren’t and
B. No they can’t; They don’t have a test to determine the Delta Variant.
Oh, Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
The CDC and Dr Fauci – the True God of Science – just ask him- can’t be lying to us! Can they?
That’s great you don’t have to see the crazy, but it is out there. I have no problem with questioning, especially since I am a questioner. But the hair on fire, they are trying to kill us all, and it all because of politics, people are not helping and end up spreading a bunch of crazy along with what may be good questions. Give us data, lets hear from professionals on both sides, let the people decide.
What does that last line have to do with the preceding ones? If you’re going to suggest someone is lying, it’s good to have some basis for it.
One thing that has come out of this whole thing is how bogus the CDC numbers are. About everything you see on the CDC web site are not actual counts but are instead computer model numbers based on usually absurdly small sample sizes.
My experience is that the crazy, and the power, is all on the pro-vax side. The vaccines are probably safe, just as I’m probably not likely to experience covid as anything more than a minor illness. So it’s not a big deal to me either way to get it or not get it. But the “get your vax” pressure campaign has been so oppressive that I now refuse to get the vax as a matter of principle. I have friends who refuse to see me even though they are fully vaxxed. My wife just left her part-time job with the town because the town now mandates that unvaxxed employees wear masks at all times and get weekly covid tests. This because our county has recently experienced an uptick in covid cases, even though the covid rate is still less than a tenth of what it was earlier in the year. The new restrictions are more draconian now than they were back when covid was in full flow. They are obviously a punitive measure against the non-vaxxed that has little to do with science, and more with making sacrifices to the Covid God. The irony is that this is Essex County, MA, famous for the Witch Trials back in the 17th century, and its museums dedicated to “never again”, yet unable to recognize when the Puritanical spirit rises from the grave.
Well, when you try to herd me, or pressure me to “get on the team”, I push back, even if I have no great objections to where the team is going. Getting the vax now is, for me, an acquiescence that all the lies and propaganda were justified – hey, it got me to get the vax, right? No, it didn’t, and it won’t.
@sheilap Your position is? I only know one anti-vaxxer here at Ricochet but there seems to be quite a few who have no inclination to take the Covid vaccine as it is being presented today. Your post is somewhat confusing to me because I cannot figure out why you have posted something where you are essentially ambivalent. Or not? There are many who favor people being vaccinated. There are many who favor people to not use foul language. Is there something that indicates individual behavior regarding being vaccinated or not affects the course of the Covid virus?
If they truly want more people to take the vaccine, they should just shut up about it. Even the folks who say people have the right to decide for themselves usually add something like, “and if you die, it’s all on you.”
I do not want the vaccine, or any flu vaccine. Government, shut up and leave me alone. The same goes for you, private business . . .
That would help more than anything.
I don’t even know one.
There is one person opposed to these vaccines, and maybe to some other vaccines, but, as I recall, she is also a fan of the polio vaccine and other classic ones.
We may need real data, but the CDC is a classical case of regulatory capture and somebody or other with enormous influence on the CDC (and on Congress which could have fixed VAERS at any time over the last 30 years) prefers that we don’t have it. The fact that VAERS has been notorious for underreporting adverse effects for its entire 31 year history should tell you that it is intended to underreport.
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