Mailing It In

Is it the dawning of a new era or are we continuing the one we’re already in? The answer was not clear when we assembled today at 9AM Pacific Time (the best time zone, as everyone knows), but we do our best to pundit all of the facts we knew when we rolled tape clicked record. But before we start that, Rob Long has a statement he’d like to make. And Peter Robinson has some thoughts on why the race may not really be over. On that topic, we are lucky to have John Yoo, Esq. back on to take us through the myriad election laws on both the state and the Federal level. Then, Arizona native (and Ricochet Editor-In-Chief) Jon Gabriel calls in from his car to explain the finer points of voting with a Sharpie and why that matters and offer his theory on how that state’s Presidential race is going to wind up. Finally, we go across the pond to Budapest to tap the mind of one the most cogent political observers we know: John O’Sullivan. From his perch in Budapest, he has a perspective and a point of view that is perceptive and unique. And he sounds so urbane when he delivers it, we can’t resist. Finally, wind up with some thoughts and insights on polling and why it was so off this cycle.

That’s a wrap on the 202o election cycle, folks. We thank you for sticking with us. We know (boy, do we know…) that you didn’t always agree with what you heard on this show, but we hope you weren’t bored and that once in a while you gained an insight or two. We have some interesting plans for the show going forward (including offering members the ability to watch it –warts and all– live on Zoom as we record it) and some very cool guests. The future starts now.

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  1. Taras Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Kervinlee (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    John Yoo’s argument that the electoral system is too diverse to be rigged is preposterous, and he should be embarrassed.

    In all but landslide elections, all you need is a few corrupt inner city precincts or districts to inject enough fraudulent ballots to swing a state’s electoral votes.

     

    And when they all use the same voting software, that makes it even easier.

    “voting software”. WTF.

    So, vote COUNTING software? Is that better?

    Less accurate, it seems.

     

    I was talking about old-fashioned, mail-in paper ballot fraud, which has been the subject of a series of (suppressed) articles in the N.Y. Post.  

    I don’t know anything about any potential issues with software.  

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  2. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    Biden Pure Demagogue (View Comment):

    I don’t get why more people aren’t saying this, just this way. 

    How can you honestly describe the controls on this thing?

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  6. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
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  8. Taras Coolidge
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    Theodoric of Freiberg (View Comment):

    Rob was wrong. The question is, “Why?” I submit that the answer is he listens to the mainstream, left-wing media and gives it way too much credence. When are some conservatives going to realize that they are being lied to on a daily basis?

    Rob is right if Trump ultimately does not prevail. A small, but obviously not insignificant, number of voters surgically cut Trump out like a cancer. There is no doubt about that when you look at the discrepancies between Trump and down-ballot Republicans. Conservatives who can’t see that are lying to themselves.

    Rob Long and his ilk — and who could be ilkier — have been Left so long, it looks like Right to them.  From habituation, they are largely blind to the media bias that took a landslide victory away from Trump.

    To be precise, “a small, but obviously not insignificant, number of ballots surgically cut Trump out like a cancer.  Whether those ballots were authentic or fraudulent is another matter.

    (“But the Democrats would never stoop to cheating, merely to defeat a Nazi traitor rapist working for Russia!”)

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  9. RufusRJones Member
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  10. RufusRJones Member
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  11. Barry Jones Thatcher
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    Theodoric of Freiberg (View Comment):

    Rob was wrong. The question is, “Why?” I submit that the answer is he listens to the mainstream, left-wing media and gives it way too much credence. When are some conservatives going to realize that they are being lied to on a daily basis?

    Rob is right if Trump ultimately does not prevail. A small, but obviously not insignificant, number of voters surgically cut Trump out like a cancer. There is no doubt about that when you look at the discrepancies between Trump and down-ballot Republicans. Conservatives who can’t see that are lying to themselves.

    So where are these races? Seriously asking as I don’t have the time or inclination to go rummaging thru a bunch of races. What I do see in GA is that the votes for Trump and the votes for the other state wide race (Perdue for Senate) are within 2000 votes. While Perdue is 100k votes ahead of his challenger and Trump is several thousand votes behind Biden, the difference seems to be found in the number of Libertarian votes – more Libertarian votes in Senate race(about 114k) and less in Pres(61K). So the statement doesn’t seem to hold up here in GA…

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  12. Taras Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Kervinlee (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    John Yoo’s argument that the electoral system is too diverse to be rigged is preposterous, and he should be embarrassed.

    In all but landslide elections, all you need is a few corrupt inner city precincts or districts to inject enough fraudulent ballots to swing a state’s electoral votes.

     

    And when they all use the same voting software, that makes it even easier.

    “voting software”. WTF.

    So, vote COUNTING software? Is that better?

    Less accurate, it seems.

     

    I was talking about old-fashioned, mail-in paper ballot fraud, which has been the subject of a series of (suppressed) articles in the N.Y. Post.

    I don’t know anything about any potential issues with software.

    It suddenly hit me that a fraudulent “blue wave” based in a limited number of deep-blue areas (permanently represented by Democratic Congressmen), colliding with a real, broad-based “red wave”, would give the pattern we see of tied votes at the State level, but Republican gains in the House.

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  13. Peter Robinson Contributor
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    DudleyDoright49 (View Comment):

    Peter, you were not listening to Rush very closely (or your staffer got it wrong) because he did not concede. He was making a hypothetical question. He even remarked about all the incorrect e-mails he got about conceding. Otherwise, I like your comments about the bald faced way the Dems just steal the election, and nothing happens to them. If there is no downside to cheating, i guess it is OK for them to keep on cheating.

    This is a very important correction, and I thank you for it, Dudley. A great deal of news was moving as we recorded the podcast, and I just plain got this one wrong. My thinking on this Saturday morning? See below.

     

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  14. EHerring Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    flownover (View Comment):

    Listening to the Ricochet podcast on this Saturday morning, I was left wondering when Rob and Peter walked back their Rush Limbaugh comments ? We Missourians have to stick together in times like these, when Lacy Clay can lose his family’s seat to a marxist in St ( hungarian abbreviation of Soros) Louis.

    The Limbaugh remark was based on a series of Tweets that came out as we were recording the show. Rush did clarify his statement later in his show and said that he is NOT conceding the election and that he thinks Trump has legal options. “I’ve not conceded anything. All I’ve said was that the cable networks were waiting for Fox to do it!” But by the time we saw those Tweets, our show was over.

    We’ll issue a formal correction on next week’s show.

    Loved the show and guests. My only disagreements are posted above. I might even listen again and will click on that little save button so it isn’t deleted. 

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  15. EHerring Coolidge
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    Theodoric of Freiberg (View Comment):
    A small, but obviously not insignificant, number of voters surgically cut Trump out like a cancer.

    Yes, and despite that, Trump got a record number of votes anyway. In this case, I blame the squishy backstabbers, not Trump.

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  16. Annefy Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    I hope you guys like wars. I hope you like sending more American soldiers overseas to die for nothing.

    Because you’re going to get a hell of a lot of it.

    It’s 10:30 am PST and I just received this meme from son #1. I responded with “why do you hate your mother?”

     

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  17. EHerring Coolidge
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    Peter Robinson (View Comment):

    DudleyDoright49 (View Comment):

    Peter, you were not listening to Rush very closely (or your staffer got it wrong) because he did not concede. He was making a hypothetical question. He even remarked about all the incorrect e-mails he got about conceding. Otherwise, I like your comments about the bald faced way the Dems just steal the election, and nothing happens to them. If there is no downside to cheating, i guess it is OK for them to keep on cheating.

    This is a very important correction, and I thank you for it, Dudley. A great deal of news was moving as we recorded the podcast, and I just plain got this one wrong. My thinking on this Saturday morning? See below.

     

    No worries. Judging from how Rush quickly clarified his comment, many misunderstood him or took his comment out of context deliberately when posting them to social media.

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    I’ll go with ***Willie Brown and Tony Bobulinski*** on this. lol

     

     

    ***W O R T H L E S S***

     

     

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Barbara Duran (View Comment):

    I’m going to cut out the middle man and switch to sending my Thatcher fee directly to James Lileks, I think. Oh how eagerly I once waited for the latest Ricochet and GLoP; now that pleasure has been taken from me. Can’t make it more than 15 minutes in, most times. I may occasionally stick around just to hear James’s responses and when he’s nearly silent it’s a wasted hour. Good luck to those who think the coming years are going to require only small adjustments and don’t mind too much about Trump’s “surgical removal.” You’ll see.

    @jameslileks I recommend a James Lileks-only podcast. Make it so.

    There is/was one, but I think it’s just an overview of the latest podcasts. Which doesn’t sound all that interesting, since nobody likes the podcasts anyway.

    James has/had his own, called The Ramble, but I don’t think it was hosted by Ricochet and there hasn’t been a new one in s LOOOONG time.

    He might still do his Diner one, but that “subject” was never of particular interest to me.

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  20. MarciN Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    I wish we could send the Republicans supporting Biden the bill for all of the promises Biden signed on to in the Democratic Party Platform. For starters, say good-bye to more school choice and hello to more money for the teachers’ unions. And the costs and controls that go with Paris Agreement on climate change are staggering. Can we send just the Democrats and Never Trumpers the bill for that, please?

    I’m more worried about foreign policy under Biden than domestic policy. Watch Biden get us back in bed with Iran, kissing up to China, cozying to Qatar, shunning Israel and the brand new alliances taking place in the middle east. Although a unified middle east centered on a Saudi/Israeli partnership facing down an Iran/U.S. coalition will be pretty interesting, don’t you think?

     

    I am worried too.

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  21. flownover Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    flownover (View Comment):

    Listening to the Ricochet podcast on this Saturday morning, I was left wondering when Rob and Peter walked back their Rush Limbaugh comments ? We Missourians have to stick together in times like these, when Lacy Clay can lose his family’s seat to a marxist in St ( hungarian abbreviation of Soros) Louis.

    The Limbaugh remark was based on a series of Tweets that came out as we were recording the show. Rush did clarify his statement later in his show and said that he is NOT conceding the election and that he thinks Trump has legal options. “I’ve not conceded anything. All I’ve said was that the cable networks were waiting for Fox to do it!” But by the time we saw those Tweets, our show was over.

    We’ll issue a formal correction on next week’s show.

    Appreciate the reply Blue Yeti. Holding out hopes for late huzzahs from the cavalry ! 

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  22. Django Member
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    I live in the Bay Area so I’m used to being surrounded by babbling fools, but this last incident takes the biscuit. I just heard a political commentator on KCBS say that in contrast with Trump today, Hillary Clinton was gracious in defeat in 2016. 

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  23. ChrisShearer Coolidge
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    “Ricochet, the place for smart, center- right conversations”.  Well, like all social media, it drifts away from the center.  I will receive disdain for this comment (ironically since I’m a pretty standard conservative) but this platform is not playing out the way I thought it would.  I’m glad the podcasts are free.

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    ChrisShearer (View Comment):

    “Ricochet, the place for smart, center- right conversations”. Well, like all social media, it drifts away from the center. I will receive disdain for this comment (ironically since I’m a pretty standard conservative) but this platform is not playing out the way I thought it would. I’m glad the podcasts are free.

    Fortunately, at least a good portion of the member posts are worth the price.

    But I probably wouldn’t be here at all if not for @jameslileks and I would probably leave if he ever does.

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  25. Functionary Coolidge
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    @jameslileks I recommend a James Lileks-only podcast. Make it so.

    James is gosh darn good, but we need to test his thoughts against those with opposing views. For example, Dinkytown sucks and has always sucked.  I don’t think the current composition of the flagship podcast could possibly be improved by turning it into an echo chamber.  [No offense, Brian.  I think you’re gosh darn snazzy also!  Thanks for contributing here.]

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  26. The Unreasonable Man Coolidge
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    @TheUnreasonableMan

    I did appreciate the discussion of the Shamrock Shake, but not a mention of its sibling the Arctic Orange.

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  27. RufusRJones Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    I live in the Bay Area so I’m used to being surrounded by babbling fools, but this last incident takes the biscuit. I just heard a political commentator on KCBS say that in contrast with Trump today, Hillary Clinton was gracious in defeat in 2016.

    I try to listen to the station for fun on weekends but it is just painful just like you are describing.  lol 

    Every single topic is twisted to progressivism somehow. Totally tedious. 

     

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  28. Django Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    I live in the Bay Area so I’m used to being surrounded by babbling fools, but this last incident takes the biscuit. I just heard a political commentator on KCBS say that in contrast with Trump today, Hillary Clinton was gracious in defeat in 2016.

    I try to listen to the station for fun on weekends but it is just painful just like you are describing. lol

    Every single topic is twisted to progressivism somehow. Totally tedious.

     

    It’s good for weather and traffic reports. And Phil Matier is good. I’ve had some respect for him since he told Willie Brown to shove it during their discussion of the movie The Green Book. 

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  29. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
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  30. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Functionary (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    @jameslileks I recommend a James Lileks-only podcast. Make it so.

    James is gosh darn good, but we need to test his thoughts against those with opposing views. For example, Dinkytown sucks and has always sucked. I don’t think the current composition of the flagship podcast could possibly be improved by turning it into an echo chamber. [No offense, Brian. I think you’re gosh darn snazzy also! Thanks for contributing here.]

    No offense taken…and you’re welcome. I’ll be developing more snaz in the coming days.

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