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Rep. Jim Jordan Seeks to Oust Rep. Liz Cheney from Leadership
According to this Politico article, Republican Rep. Jim Jordan plans to move to oust Rep. Liz Cheney from her position as the House Republican Conference Chair. Cheney previously announced her support for the impeachment of President Trump. According to the same article, the top two Republicans in the House — Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Minority Whip Steve Scalise — oppose impeachment.
This strikes me as a proper response to Cheney’s action. As I have posted previously, I find the calls for Trump’s impeachment to be a deranged overreaction. It is very disappointing to see some erstwhile conservatives and Republicans supporting such an action.
Rep. Cheney is entitled to her opinion and may vote as she sees fit. I think that it is quite proper for her House colleagues to remove her from a leadership position, if they disagree strongly with her on such an important issue.
I do expect that any Republican Congressmen or Senators who support impeachment to face a serious primary challenge in their next election. Rightfully so, in my view.
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Sure it was wrong. As for punishment, get back to me after the thousands of businesses and buildings destroyed by BLM/Antifa have been rebuilt and the owners made whole, and the people who killed at least two dozen other people are locked up possibly for life.
I get really sick of the left demanding everything while doing nothing themselves. They can go first, this time. All those buildings and businesses destroyed – including over 100 federal buildings damaged! – and at least two dozen people killed, is WAY WORSE than what happened on the 6th. As others say, “Full Stop.”
Tell me, can anyone have a principled opposition to Trump in your mind? Or are all of us “useful idiots” or grifters? Because quite frankly, that is the only way you know how to debate. Anyone with whom you disagree is being disingenuous or has some other motive that isn’t clear. Why? Is it really impossible to accept that a great many of us found Trump to be unfit for office?
Not deflecting, it was morally wrong, criminal, people were injured and killed, and it was a political disaster for the (R), and has buried whatever limited reputation Trump might have retained post Presidency ….
…. And it’s a spectacular hypocritical lie that after months of excusing and lying about the Leftist Antifa rioting, looting, creating havoc in the cities the (D)/MSM has suddenly found the rioting is wrong religion.
Again, this is deflection. You again point to failures of others as an excuse to punishing the rioters at the Capitol. And again, I am not a lefty “demanding everything.”
As to your claim that this some was “WAY WORSE” than the Capitol riot, I am sorry but we disagree. We have endured riots before in America. They are wrong and outrageous, but sadly not new. What happened at the Capitol is new to America. This wasn’t random, wanton destruction, but an attempt to overturn an election. Trump egged them on and told them that “we love you” but go home. That is unacceptable. Every bit as much as the appeasement of the left during the summer.
Yep. Jerry has convinced me of that. Damn. I will have to wait until the Republican Primary in August 2022. (I won’t be funded a Democrat against Biggs or Gosar, just as I won’t be funding a Republican against AOC or Omar, given that they are unbeatable in the general election.)
Hmm, in short I might say that a “principled” opposition to Trump could only be regarding policy, which most Republicans – including the NTers, or at least so they would have us believe – don’t seem to have. Anything regarding “mean tweeting” etc would not, on that basis, be “principled.” So, what “principled” opposition do you have? Bad judge picks? Nonsense. Not actually lowering the debt? Show me any Republican candidate/president who has done better. etc.
As for “unfit,” how often does it have to be pointed out that Trump wasn’t running against Jesus? Nor could Jesus have won as a write-in.
Ignoring history, assuming facts not in evidence, etc, etc.
This is truly silly. The “federal building” is the Capitol itself, the likely final target of Flight 93. This is like saying that St. Peters is just a church, and not the home of the Roman Catholic Church. The other point is that the rioters were trying to subvert the election and to kidnap or harm our elected members of Congress.
There is absolutely no evidence yet of their intent, assuming there even was a single intent. And your attempt to prioritize the Capitol over the ruination of small businesses and the families who own them is typically tone-deaf.
Like all memes, this has a hole or two, but the substance is spot-on. Your guy Biden stood by for months saying nothing and tacitly condoning the riots. But he’s a uniter.
So their statements in social media are not admissions against interest by a party opponent, and thus not hearsay by definition? Also, during the Senate Trial, we will have have bunches of confirmation.
Unlike you, I’m willing to wait for any trial and official findings. I’m not foolish enough to think everyone who invaded the Capitol did so with the same purpose. And, unlike you, I don’t lionize the Capitol in comparison to small businesses across the country.
Policy? Okay. I oppose his handling of North Korea. I oppose his surrender in Afghanistan. I oppose his snap withdrawal from northern Syria that left our allies at Erdogan’s mercy. I oppose his foolish trade wars. I oppose his use of a “national emergency” to try and build the wall. I oppose the way he undercut repeal of Obamacare. I oppose his use of bailouts to farmers as a way to limit the damage from his trade wars. I could go on.
But yes, I also oppose him because of his character. I am not asking for perfection, just a bare minimum of common decency. He is a thin-skinned bully who lashes out at any perceived slight. He bragged about only hiring the best people, yet attacks anyone who disagrees. He is inconsistent and erratic–just look at foreign policy. He is too easily swayed by flattery. He also has proven that the only thing he actually cares about is himself and his own ego. He is lazy and unwilling to do the actual work of governing. If you can watch the coronavirus briefings and reach a different conclusion, then we see the world very differently.
The difference I see between what I just laid out and so many “always” Trump people is that I don’t begrudge people who made a different choice. I don’t blame people who view the election as a binary choice, or are willing to look past Trump’s faults in exchange for the policy they like. Those people aren’t my enemy and I think we can build off the things we have in common. What I don’t understand is why those of us who opposed Trump but supported the rest of the GOP must now be the enemy.
Enlighten me. What history do I ignore? What evidence am I assuming. Please, do tell.
So they were there to clean up the place and the zip ties were for the trash bags, right?
Speculation works for you, but not for me. I know investigations and trials are inconvenient for those who jump to conclusions. It’s so much easier to not have to think.
Part of thinking is being able to look at evidence, recognize it as such, and come to conclusions. Trials and investigations are to establish specific criminality. I don’t have to wait for them to understand that the rioters weren’t there to exchange brownie recipes with Nancy Pelosi.
Part of thinking is also knowing when the evidence is sufficient to come to a conclusion. In my experience, the faster that process occurs, the less reliable the conclusion. You’re predisposed to view this a certain way, so you’re going to consider what you want when you want, and pretend it’s enough. I prefer to wait. I’ve never had a problem with that.
And I’ve never had a problem with recognizing the obvious.
Why answer if you’re just going to say the same thing? My response is above.
For the politicians, yes, but for many voters and pundits they just are not very conservative, and tend not to like very conservative people all that much.
They should like us, because we’re more likely to let them live their lives as they prefer, than the people supposedly on their side if those people don’t agree with them on something.
Hoyacon, the problem is that Trump has the nuclear codes and is acting erratically. The events of January 6, 2021 are clear to see to anyone who has eyes to see and ears to hear, to use a biblical phrase. We don’t need proof to the ultimate degree.
This.
Being overly idealistic about everything is a huge mistake right now. There is so much government in so many things are so screwed up right now. I hate the ACA but there is no way in hell we can’t have some form of universal coverage going forward, for example.
Trump as a bonus brought attention to China, the media, and so forth as a bonus.
I really recommend that everybody listen to Mark Levin on this last night. About 20 minutes into the first hour he starts reading an article with a bunch of facts about this by John Solomon. The article would be good but Levin’s commentary is always excellent.
Basically, it looks like it was organized, they had excellent intelligence, and everybody in charge in DC failed to heed a bunch of warnings about how to get ready for it, especially Pelosi. I’m not exactly sure how the chain of command works, but the Sergeant at arms reports to Pelosi and they did not listen to any inputs. She could be panicked about the impeachment as a distraction.
In case anybody was wondering, this is one stop shopping on why Never Trump is wrong about everything.
https://www.nationalreview.com/podcasts/the-victor-davis-hanson-podcast/episode-50-no-umbrage-zone-the-left-left-out/
I also noticed over these past few years @hoyacon that you are not someone who calls themself one thing while being something else entirely. Gary Robbins is in everything he does a Democrat because when it comes to the bottom line, he votes for the Democrat. That is his prerogative, of course. What I find amusing and sometimes aggravating is that Gary calls himself a Reagan Republican. Wow, Gary, who ya kiddin’?
This argument is pretty weak sauce. Trump is the first President in a long time who did not get us into a new conflict in a new country, he is not predisposed to attack other countries.
Who is it that you think he would choose to launch a missile at, I mean I am going to need a specific country, who does Trump hate that bad?
Do you really think, no matter who the President is, that the military will accept, with out any reasonable provocation, that an order out of the blue to launch a nuclear missile is a lawful order?
“Always accuse the opponent of doing the terrible things you are doing yourselves.” Democrat Party Alynski playbook.
Trump has 75 million supporters. At least half, probably many more, are avid supporters. By impeaching this man six days before he is lawfully leaving office, Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats, and the ten Republicans are inciting violence. They are purposefully telling those tens of millions of citizens that they do not matter. They are telling them they are scum and dumb. They are provoking an estranged and violent backlash. They are doing exactly what they accused President Trump of doing. They should all be prosecuted if even one Trump supporter performs an illegal act of protest.
Nobody. Except himself, I suppose.
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“Always accuse the opponent of doing the terrible things you are doing yourselves.” Democrat Party Alynski playbook.
Trump has 75 million supporters. At least half, probably many more, are avid supporters. By impeaching this man six days before he is lawfully leaving office, Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats, and the ten Republicans are inciting violence. They are purposefully telling those tens of millions of citizens that they do not matter. They are telling them they are scum and dumb. They are provoking an estranged and violent backlash. They are doing exactly what they accused President Trump of doing. They should all be prosecuted if even one Trump supporter performs an illegal act of protest.
I honestly don’t know where to even begin with this. It’s *exactly* the same argument the Left makes when justifying BLM/Antifa.