Losing More Friends

 

I have (or used to have) two close friends who dislike Trump.  One dislikes him, the other has full-blown Trump Derangement Syndrome.

  1. My friend who lives in Santa Monica refuses to discuss BLM with me.  He is not black.  He is a citizen of Canada who was born in Sarajevo and has lived in California since 2003.  He has Trump Derangement Syndrome.
  2. The second friend grew up in Orange County (which used to be a GOP region in California) and now lives in a suburb of Portland.

Neither one refuses to denounce the rioting of BLM and Antifa.

The Portland resident refuses to denounce the riots in the city and the useless mayor and Governor.

They say they don’t want to discuss ‘politics.’

I criticized them for being spineless and tacitly cheering on the rioters.

No response.

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  1. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    I have some friends with TDS.  Some have stopped talking to me.  A few are arming with the intention that if this goes hot they will need to “defend themselves” from Trump supporters.  It is sad  that I may have to defend myself when from these people if/when they attack.  Because I fear the Left are going to push them that far.  

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  2. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN:

    Neither one refuses to denounce the rioting of BLM and Antifa.

    The Portland resident refuses to denounce the riots in the city and the useless mayor and Governor.

    They say they don’t want to discuss ‘politics.’

    I criticized them for being spineless and tacitly cheering on the rioters.

    No response.

    Mister Bitcoin,

    The “No response.” is the giveaway. They know they are going down with the woke ship. They just want to hang onto their feeling of being cool a little longer. After they lose in November, it will take a year and maybe then they’ll be able to deal with the fact that they went down a rabbit hole chasing a lie.

    Regards,

    Jim

    I hope. But there’s a non-zero chance that it will get worse, not better, regardless of the election results.

    ke,

    I think it is going to be a complete blowout for the Dems. That will force the reevaluation or they’ll be committing suicide.

    Not our problem. It’s all their problem.

    Regards,

    Jim

    I think (and of course hope) that Trump will win in a landslide and that the surprisingly wide lunatic fringe will be forced to step back from the cliff. But some people are going to lose it.

    Also, some refer to the margin of lawyer, which the Dems tried in 2000, but this landslide has to be outside the margin of cheating, which could be rather large considering the cheating machine the Dems have in place. They didn’t think they needed it in 2016, but this time I around I expect it to be lubed up and ready to scream into action. I expect people who haven’t been alive in at least 50 years – or were never born at all – will be voting in Chicago and elsewhere. Probably more than once. Plus every retirement home you can think of, as well as all the others they can invent that never existed.

     

    This is another reason why we need the Electoral College: It doesn’t matter how full California stuffs the ballot box, they still only get 57 votes.

    Democrats opposed the Electoral College when it was invented (by claiming slaves as citizens so that they could better represent them by keeping them slaves) and they oppose it now because they think that all citizens should be subject to the laws of people who live in highly populated states. Liberty upsets them and they don’t see why they should be prevented from taking it. 

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  3. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

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    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

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    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    I’m a Trump voter, and I don’t like him that much….BUT…

    I would like to hear a list of his crimes and dictatorial actions from these morons.

    Any groups of people loaded onto boxcars? Illegal military invasions? Secret police?

    What is he doing, besides behaving like a jackass on Twitter like EVERYBODY else?

    I don’t get why that upsets people; that’s what Twitter is for.

    Speaking as a former NeverTrumper, I think can answer that. For a lot of people it’s that the President should be better than that. You often hear variations of, “He’s not Donnie from Queens on line one, anymore.”

    The way I look at it is that I like Trump’s bluntness and coarseness. I once went to buy a used motorcycle and I gave the guy my typical low-ball offer and he immediately responded, F*** Y**!!! and I found that refreshing and I knew that I could negotiate with him. When I deal with double-talk I find myself at a disadvantage.

    Similarly, just look at the last twelve years of federal elections. Look at how focus-grouped and parsed all the candidates have been (except Sarah Palin). Their words bore no relationship to how they think or what they’re likely to do in office. Trump went against the pundits and the focus groups and the polls and the regulated, rehearsed and handled campaign advice, and said what he meant. Did I know that he meant it? No. But I knew that all the other professional politicians certainly didn’t.

    And I don’t know about 4D chess or trolling the media, but compare Romney accepting Candy Crowley’s interference and legitimizing it with a respectful answer, with Trump’s brouhaha with Megan Kelly: he certainly doesn’t roll over for the Press, he rolls over the Press. You can call it shtick by now but he doesn’t let the Press set the narrative.

    Who else has been ready and able to do this?

    The response to this, and I’m not necessarily endorsing it, just reporting it, is that you’re not a typical voter. A typical Republican maybe, but elections are won by courting the swingers.

    Of course that matters less now than it did in 2016. After four years the swingers have all made their minds up about the tweets.

    I honestly think that Trump, and Republicans, are well-served by his tweets. Their substance is odious but their effects are sweetness and light. 

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  4. Hammer, The Inactive
    Hammer, The
    @RyanM

    In the OP, you mean to say both refuse to denounce.

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  5. Django Member
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    @Django

    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN:

    Neither one refuses to denounce the rioting of BLM and Antifa.

    The Portland resident refuses to denounce the riots in the city and the useless mayor and Governor.

    They say they don’t want to discuss ‘politics.’

    I criticized them for being spineless and tacitly cheering on the rioters.

    No response.

    Mister Bitcoin,

    The “No response.” is the giveaway. They know they are going down with the woke ship. They just want to hang onto their feeling of being cool a little longer. After they lose in November, it will take a year and maybe then they’ll be able to deal with the fact that they went down a rabbit hole chasing a lie.

    Regards,

    Jim

    I hope. But there’s a non-zero chance that it will get worse, not better, regardless of the election results.

    ke,

    I think it is going to be a complete blowout for the Dems. That will force the reevaluation or they’ll be committing suicide.

    Not our problem. It’s all their problem.

    Regards,

    Jim

    I think (and of course hope) that Trump will win in a landslide and that the surprisingly wide lunatic fringe will be forced to step back from the cliff. But some people are going to lose it.

    Also, some refer to the margin of lawyer, which the Dems tried in 2000, but this landslide has to be outside the margin of cheating, which could be rather large considering the cheating machine the Dems have in place. They didn’t think they needed it in 2016, but this time I around I expect it to be lubed up and ready to scream into action. I expect people who haven’t been alive in at least 50 years – or were never born at all – will be voting in Chicago and elsewhere. Probably more than once. Plus every retirement home you can think of, as well as all the others they can invent that never existed.

     

    This is another reason why we need the Electoral College: It doesn’t matter how full California stuffs the ballot box, they still only get 57 votes.

    And that explains the move to abolish the electoral college. You’ll see secession movements in a lot of red states if that happens. 

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

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    Mr. Bitcoin,

    You’d think the one from Sarajevo would know better. The ex-commies usually have a much better appreciation for the USA.

    Tim

    Assuming an elderly friend? Someone born in the 80s or later may not have any clear memories of communism. Like a second generation immigrant who develops a nostalgia for the ‘old country’ perhaps a young survivor of socialism also becomes nostalgic for it.

    And as commie dictatorships go, life under Tito wasn’t the worst. He was probably just glad he didn’t live in Albania.

    For @roblong:

    Albania!

    Albania!

    You border on the Adriatic!

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