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  1. Seawriter Contributor
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    I’ve been saying for a while now if the #NeverTrumpers were smart, they’d already be pointed towards 2024, and finding a candidate who they can be comfortable with but who could also have a chance at winning over the majority of Trump’s supporters and who has a strong enough identity not to be swamped by Trump’s persona (because anyone who thinks he’s fading quietly into the background in 2024 has to be mainlining strong hallucinogenics).

    If #NeverTrumpers were smart (not intelligent – there are lots of sophomores among them) they would not be #NeverTrumpers. To be Never anything bespeaks an intellectual rigidity that overwhelms even genius levels of intelligence.

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Trump is going to be the nominee in 2020, and unless they’re fine with blowing up the entire GOP and giving the Democrats the sort of control in 2021-22 they had in 2009-10, nothing they do is going to keep Trump from being the nominee in 2020.

    I think they’re fine with Democrats in control. If Republicans are in control they have to, you know, make good on their empty promises to the electorate. That’s tough, and 2016 showed us that they had no idea what to do with the power voters gave them.

    They’d prefer to be the party out of power, then they can fund-raise on it. Sweet sweet cash for doing nothing. What a life, eh?

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  3. Franco Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    Pence would be able to articulate why a conservative vision would be better for the country than a socialist vision.

    Sure he will, but who will be listening? You and twelve other folks at Mr. Excitement’s rallies? The mainstream media won’t be helping. The media of “our side” will be supporting the hundred other candidates who pop up. Do you think other Republican politicians don’t look in the mirror and see a PotUS?

    Again, I like Pence, but he is not Mr. Charisma.

    Absolutely. And even if the media on “our side” ( getting harder to determine that exactly…) were all in for Mikey, it wouldn’t matter. What world is this guy living in?

    We still have people who believe we can lecture and roll-model our way into power?

    Hard to imagine after witnessing the last 20 years.

    I’ve been saying for a while now if the #NeverTrumpers were smart, ..

    Clearly they are not. They not only not smart, they are on the level of moron when it comes to politics. 
    They are living in a cosseted fantasy world as evidenced by the past strategic failures,  which they might be forgiven for lacking counterfactuals, but holding onto these same pathetic strategies now after having been proven spectacularly wrong takes a special kind of idiot.

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  4. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    And I’ll tell ya — you think Democrats are having trouble with the “woke” on the left?

    “Woke” conservatives are causing as much trouble for GOP, Inc.

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Trump is going to be the nominee in 2020, and unless they’re fine with blowing up the entire GOP and giving the Democrats the sort of control in 2021-22 they had in 2009-10, nothing they do is going to keep Trump from being the nominee in 2020.

    I think they’re fine with Democrats in control. If Republicans are in control they have to, you know, make good on their empty promises to the electorate. That’s tough, and 2016 showed us that they had no idea what to do with the power voters gave them.

    They’d prefer to be the party out of power, then they can fund-raise on it. Sweet sweet cash for doing nothing. What a life, eh?

    I mean, Democrats are the same. They were given the House (with the help of traitorous Republicans) and the impeachment circus is all they’ve got. If you take impeachment off the table, what do the Democrats have as a selling point for 2020? What have they done? What can they point to in order to draw votes?

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  6. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    aardo vozz (View Comment):

    Republicans as vertebrates?

    Republicans growing a spine is one thing, keeping it is another. Let’s pray that they do.

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  7. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    Pence would be able to articulate why a conservative vision would be better for the country than a socialist vision.

    Sure he will, but who will be listening? You and twelve other folks at Mr. Excitement’s rallies? The mainstream media won’t be helping. The media of “our side” will be supporting the hundred other candidates who pop up. Do you think other Republican politicians don’t look in the mirror and see a PotUS?

    Again, I like Pence, but he is not Mr. Charisma.

    Absolutely. And even if the media on “our side” ( getting harder to determine that exactly…) were all in for Mikey, it wouldn’t matter. What world is this guy living in?

    We still have people who believe we can lecture and roll-model our way into power?

    Hard to imagine after witnessing the last 20 years.

    I’ve been saying for a while now if the #NeverTrumpers were smart, ..

    Clearly they are not. They not only not smart, they are on the level of moron when it comes to politics.
    They are living in a cosseted fantasy world as evidenced by the past strategic failures, which they might be forgiven for lacking counterfactuals, but holding onto these same pathetic strategies now after having been proven spectacularly wrong takes a special kind of idiot.

    There’s a certain amount of hubris on their part, in thinking somehow they can help the Democrats take down Trump, and that in Step 2, they will be welcomed back by the rest of the GOP and resume their rightful place as the ideological trend setters of the party.

    More likely, they’d be in even a worse place than the hardest of the hard-core #NeverTrumpers like David Frum and Jen Rubin are — they were among those in 2008 who were swooning for Obama and in 2009 said the GOP’s only hope to survive was to move left. They’ve been fighting the Republican base since the rise of the Tea Party.

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  8. Franco Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Trump is going to be the nominee in 2020, and unless they’re fine with blowing up the entire GOP and giving the Democrats the sort of control in 2021-22 they had in 2009-10, nothing they do is going to keep Trump from being the nominee in 2020.

    I think they’re fine with Democrats in control. If Republicans are in control they have to, you know, make good on their empty promises to the electorate. That’s tough, and 2016 showed us that they had no idea what to do with the power voters gave them.

    They’d prefer to be the party out of power, then they can fund-raise on it. Sweet sweet cash for doing nothing. What a life, eh?

    I mean, Democrats are the same. They were given the House (with the help of traitorous Republicans) and the impeachment circus is all they’ve got. If you take impeachment off the table, what do the Democrats have as a selling point for 2020? What have they done? What can they point to in order to draw votes?

    I can’t help but think this is a colossal mistake by Democrats. People on the right who may not be especially fond of Trump and not animated to vote out their moderate Democrat congressional rep are now given a big reason to get active. Trump supporters will be even more active. But will this energize Democrat voters any more than they already are? I can’t see it.

    It’s also a very small hill to fight on. Clearly it is ambiguous at best. We know they would impeach him for jaywalking if they could, and this just makes it more obvious.

    They can only pretend this is some big deal.  

    I’m going to be volunteering for the opponent of my Democratic congressman, who just won in 2016 from an establishment Republican. So he’s definitely vulnerable. 

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  9. Jon1979 Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Trump is going to be the nominee in 2020, and unless they’re fine with blowing up the entire GOP and giving the Democrats the sort of control in 2021-22 they had in 2009-10, nothing they do is going to keep Trump from being the nominee in 2020.

    I think they’re fine with Democrats in control. If Republicans are in control they have to, you know, make good on their empty promises to the electorate. That’s tough, and 2016 showed us that they had no idea what to do with the power voters gave them.

    They’d prefer to be the party out of power, then they can fund-raise on it. Sweet sweet cash for doing nothing. What a life, eh?

    I mean, Democrats are the same. They were given the House (with the help of traitorous Republicans) and the impeachment circus is all they’ve got. If you take impeachment off the table, what do the Democrats have as a selling point for 2020? What have they done? What can they point to in order to draw votes?

    The difference, at the moment, is the House Dems see their impeachment efforts as a means to an end, which is to win the 2020 election. Then they’ve got major control, especially if they can win the Senate. The #NeverTrumpers are like South Park’s underpants gnomes, in that once you get past Phase 1, in taking down Trump, there’s no logical Phase 2 and beyond, where they get back the political clout they crave, even if they seem to believe everyone on the right is going to come to their senses and start listening to them again if Trump’s no longer president.

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  10. Bob Thompson Member
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    It’s been three years and we have not had a breakthrough with the #NeverTrumpers . I see several possible outcomes for our foreseeable future:

    The best one is that the present essentially criminal Democrat and ‘deep state’ behavior fails to achieve its purpose and Donald Trump is reelected in 2020. The #NeverTrumpers come around to the extent that the 2024 Republican nominee is one who gets why we have Trump and what the Party needs to do to restore our sovereign constitutional and free republic, and is elected to pursue that path.

    I’m not up to detailing the others because of what the unpleasantness of them does to my state of mind. I know y’all can imagine them as well as I.

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  11. Jager Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    The Democrats would have a difficult time beating Pence because Pence would be able to make the case, not just to those who already support the conservative vision, but to those who haven’t made their mind up yet.

    First, Pence would not have a chance to make the case for anything. He would be on defense. Tarred with any negative of Trump and called all sorts of “ist” words for being a social conservative. 

    Next, you have to bet on Pence bringing lots of new voters into the fold, more than Trump or Bush could, because you are losing a significant number of people who voted for Trump but would not show up at the polls after Republicans agreed to remove him. 

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  12. Arahant Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    I’ve been saying for a while now if the #NeverTrumpers were smart, they’d already be pointed towards 2024, and finding a candidate who they can be comfortable with but who could also have a chance at winning over the majority of Trump’s supporters and who has a strong enough identity not to be swamped by Trump’s persona (because anyone who thinks he’s fading quietly into the background in 2024 has to be mainlining strong hallucinogenics). Trump is going to be the nominee in 2020, and unless they’re fine with blowing up the entire GOP and giving the Democrats the sort of control in 2021-22 they had in 2009-10, nothing they do is going to keep Trump from being the nominee in 2020.

    Three words for 2024: President Kanye West.

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  13. Jeff Hawkins Inactive
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    It’s been three years and we have not had a breakthrough with the #NeverTrumpers .

    They’ve been elevated and emboldened by venture capital, MSNBC, CNN, etc.  In what sane world can the Bulwark and the Dispatch and Jen Rubin and Tom Nichols and Rick Wilson and Max Boot all not only exist but thrive

    I’m a little more sanguine about 2020.  The media is going to bury anything that might stop a Democrat wave.  NeverTrump is going to tut-tut that people merely voing against Democrats are unsophisticated and too tribal.  Democrats are putting pressure on alternative media to censor right wing points under the guise of “fact checking” or “stopping hate speech”

     

     

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  14. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):
    In what sane world can the Bulwark and the Dispatch and Jen Rubin and Tom Nichols and Rick Wilson and Max Boot all not only exist but thrive

    We don’t really know if they’re thriving. (How many copies of Wilson’s anti-Trump slam book actually sold?)

    I’ll say this for The Bulwark: they seem to have spent more on site-design than The Dispatch.

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  15. Jeffery Shepherd Inactive
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    I kind of think the impeachment inquiry will be voted on again.  That vote will be to deem Trump impeached sending it over to judiciary, but they’ll never actually start a real impeachment.  It’ll die in the Judiciary over the holiday season.   But they’ll try to use the intelligence committee vote as an impeachment vote during the campaign.

    Andy McCarthy puts it rather better than me as to what will emerge from Schiffty.  Though I still think the impeachment will die over Christmas because the R’s won’t convict anyway.  So they’ll just deem him impeached without ever going through the process.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-impeachment-inquiry-next-chapter-andrew-mccarthy

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  16. RufusRJones Member
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    The American people and the Pelosi/Schiff Star Chamber. @AndrewCMcCarthy @NRO @ThadMcCotter @WJR https://audioboom.com/posts/7412017-the-american-people-and-the-pelosi-schiff-star-chamber-andrewcmccarthy-nro-thadmccotter-wjr?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter via @batchelorshow

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  17. Arahant Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    It’s been three years and we have not had a breakthrough with the #NeverTrumpers.

    There have been a few of them who have converted. Just not the biggest names.

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  18. Seawriter Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):
    We don’t really know if they’re thriving. (How many copies of Wilson’s anti-Trump slam book actually sold?)

    I can think of at least three Ricochetti that have purchased it.

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  19. Arahant Member
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    Also, Jonah isn’t a NeverTrump, he’s more of a BartlebyTrump.

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  20. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    It’s been three years and we have not had a breakthrough with the #NeverTrumpers .

    They’ve been elevated and emboldened by venture capital, MSNBC, CNN, etc. In what sane world can the Bulwark and the Dispatch and Jen Rubin and Tom Nichols and Rick Wilson and Max Boot all not only exist but thrive

    I’m a little more sanguine about 2020. The media is going to bury anything that might stop a Democrat wave. NeverTrump is going to tut-tut that people merely voing against Democrats are unsophisticated and too tribal. Democrats are putting pressure on alternative media to censor right wing points under the guise of “fact checking” or “stopping hate speech”

     

     

    Trump’s his own best publicity man, in that the media can’t help but quote him (and get outraged) when he tweets — see the kerfuffle over his retweeting of the Daily Wire’s Photoshopped medal award to Conan this week as the latest example. He may not offer up good publicity for himself all the time, but he’s such a media presence that he can’t be filtered effectively, in that the public can see the original source material and decide for themselves if how the media is presenting it is accurate and fair or not.

    For any 2024 candidate, that’s going to be more of a struggle, since they’re not going to go in with the same pre-political high profile Trump has (or Reagan had, with his acting career). They’re going to have to keep the media from defining them, as they defined Romney in 2012, but at the same time, they have to show that they’re their own person (i.e. — someone running as ‘Mini-Me’ Trump might get some backers in the primary, if people are looking for the most combative candidate in the field, but whether or not swing voters would want a Trump clone after 4-8 years of the real thing is another story).

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  21. Jon1979 Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):
    In what sane world can the Bulwark and the Dispatch and Jen Rubin and Tom Nichols and Rick Wilson and Max Boot all not only exist but thrive

    We don’t really know if they’re thriving. (How many copies of Wilson’s anti-Trump slam book actually sold?)

    I’ll say this for The Bulwark: they seem to have spent more on site-design than The Dispatch.

    The Dispatch’s front page seems like the equivalent of the little sliding opening on a door to a 1920s speakeasy (maybe they’ll let you in for free if you type “Swordfish” in the subscription box).

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  22. Django Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

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    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    Pence would be able to articulate why a conservative vision would be better for the country than a socialist vision.

    Sure he will, but who will be listening? You and twelve other folks at Mr. Excitement’s rallies? The mainstream media won’t be helping. The media of “our side” will be supporting the hundred other candidates who pop up. Do you think other Republican politicians don’t look in the mirror and see a PotUS?

    Again, I like Pence, but he is not Mr. Charisma.

    Absolutely. And even if the media on “our side” ( getting harder to determine that exactly…) were all in for Mikey, it wouldn’t matter. What world is this guy living in?

    We still have people who believe we can lecture and roll-model our way into power?

    Hard to imagine after witnessing the last 20 years.

    I’ve been saying for a while now if the #NeverTrumpers were smart, they’d already be pointed towards 2024, and finding a candidate who they can be comfortable with but who could also have a chance at winning over the majority of Trump’s supporters and who has a strong enough identity not to be swamped by Trump’s persona (because anyone who thinks he’s fading quietly into the background in 2024 has to be mainlining strong hallucinogenics). Trump is going to be the nominee in 2020, and unless they’re fine with blowing up the entire GOP and giving the Democrats the sort of control in 2021-22 they had in 2009-10, nothing they do is going to keep Trump from being the nominee in 2020.

    But they aren’t. After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

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  23. Unsk Member
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    “I’ve been saying for a while now if the #NeverTrumpers were smart, they’d already be pointed towards 2024, and finding a candidate who they can be comfortable with but who could also have a chance at winning over the majority of Trump’s supporters”

    How Delusional. 

    All Never Trumpers who have even said nice things about the Democrats Impeachment efforts have signed their political death warrants. They are Dead Men and Women Walking Politically. No right thinking Republican would ever again put up with anyone so gratuitously full of themselves, selfish and self deluded to endorse any of the incredibly illegal Democrat Impeachment efforts as so many Never Trumpers gleefully  have. This Impeachment effort is an illegal coup. Anyone in Congress who votes for this ridiculously illegal farce is a traitor and should face prison time.  This is an unconstitutional effort to overthrow a duly elected government and anyone involved with it needs to be slapped down good and hard.  

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  24. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Django (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    I’ve been saying for a while now if the #NeverTrumpers were smart, they’d already be pointed towards 2024, and finding a candidate who they can be comfortable with but who could also have a chance at winning over the majority of Trump’s supporters and who has a strong enough identity not to be swamped by Trump’s persona (because anyone who thinks he’s fading quietly into the background in 2024 has to be mainlining strong hallucinogenics). Trump is going to be the nominee in 2020, and unless they’re fine with blowing up the entire GOP and giving the Democrats the sort of control in 2021-22 they had in 2009-10, nothing they do is going to keep Trump from being the nominee in 2020.

    But they aren’t. After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

    I think there are gradients of Trump opposition, from those who don’t like his persona or some of his worst impulses, but will hold their noses and vote for him anyway, to those who are hoping wacky-but-lovable Uncle Joe gets the nomination, because they think they can live with four years of Biden, to the hardest of hard-core types who actually have the egos and self-delusion to think they can support anyone from Biden to Bernie.

    They really seem to think by making the case, say, that the only True Conservative vote in 2020 will be for Liz Warren, they can eliminate Trump and their titanic intellectual and argumentative skills will, in 2021, allow them to waltz back in as the arbiters of Republican policy for the mass of the part, with only a few malcontent #AlwaysTrumper holdouts, who can be mocked and ridiculed.

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  25. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    Django (View Comment):
    After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

    This is exactly right.

    What do you think they’ll be saying when the President wins reelection in a landslide? Like the Democrats, they seem to have maneuvered themselves into a political cul-de-sac from which the only exit is to support impeachment. And when that doesn’t happen, or proves to be so unpopular the full raging fury of the electorate turns against them, . . . what will they do then?

    (Also worth noting, what happens when their left-wing sugar daddies stop funding their anti-Trump newsletters after the 2020 election?)

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  26. Django Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

    This is exactly right.

    What do you think they’ll be saying when the President wins reelection in a landslide? Like the Democrats, they seem to have maneuvered themselves into a political cul-de-sac from which the only exit is to support impeachment. And when that doesn’t happen, or proves to be so unpopular the full raging fury of the electorate turns against them, . . . what will they do then?

    (Also worth noting, what happens when their left-wing sugar daddies stop funding their anti-Trump newsletters after the 2020 election?)

    Apologies to the post author for derailing a good comment section. I couldn’t resist. 

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  27. Bob Thompson Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

    This is exactly right.

    What do you think they’ll be saying when the President wins reelection in a landslide? Like the Democrats, they seem to have maneuvered themselves into a political cul-de-sac from which the only exit is to support impeachment. And when that doesn’t happen, or proves to be so unpopular the full raging fury of the electorate turns against them, . . . what will they do then?

    (Also worth noting, what happens when their left-wing sugar daddies stop funding their anti-Trump newsletters after the 2020 election?)

    How many are we talking about? Is there a different outcome in store for #NeverTrump pundits versus plain old #NeverTrump voters like our @garyrobbins?

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  28. Django Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

    This is exactly right.

    What do you think they’ll be saying when the President wins reelection in a landslide? Like the Democrats, they seem to have maneuvered themselves into a political cul-de-sac from which the only exit is to support impeachment. And when that doesn’t happen, or proves to be so unpopular the full raging fury of the electorate turns against them, . . . what will they do then?

    (Also worth noting, what happens when their left-wing sugar daddies stop funding their anti-Trump newsletters after the 2020 election?)

    How many are we talking about? Is there a different outcome in store for #NeverTrump pundits versus plain old #NeverTrump voters like our @garyrobbins?

    I don’t remember hearing Gary say he’d be laughing when Trump loses. 

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  29. philo Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

    This is exactly right.

    What do you think they’ll be saying when the President wins reelection in a landslide? Like the Democrats, they seem to have maneuvered themselves into a political cul-de-sac from which the only exit is to support impeachment. And when that doesn’t happen, or proves to be so unpopular the full raging fury of the electorate turns against them, . . . what will they do then?

    (Also worth noting, what happens when their left-wing sugar daddies stop funding their anti-Trump newsletters after the 2020 election?)

    How many are we talking about? Is there a different outcome in store for #NeverTrump pundits versus plain old #NeverTrump voters like our @garyrobbins?

    I don’t remember hearing Gary say he’d be laughing when Trump loses.

    He may or may not laugh but he will end up in the same gulag as the rest of us.  He’ll be a stool pigeon in there too.

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  30. Franco Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    After hearing from a couple that they’d be “laughing in our faces” after Trump leads the GOP into an electoral disaster, I realized that they are egotistical, self-righteous, snot-licking punks. They’d rather see the GOP die than not get their way, so they aren’t thinking about 2024 as much as thinking about gloating if Trump loses.

    This is exactly right.

    What do you think they’ll be saying when the President wins reelection in a landslide? Like the Democrats, they seem to have maneuvered themselves into a political cul-de-sac from which the only exit is to support impeachment. And when that doesn’t happen, or proves to be so unpopular the full raging fury of the electorate turns against them, . . . what will they do then?

    (Also worth noting, what happens when their left-wing sugar daddies stop funding their anti-Trump newsletters after the 2020 election?)

    How many are we talking about? Is there a different outcome in store for #NeverTrump pundits versus plain old #NeverTrump voters like our @garyrobbins?

    I think most of us are talking about prominent Never Trumpers, not people like Gary. 

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