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Another Democrat Senator Questions Trump Nominee’s Religious Views
In confirmation hearings for Secretary of State nominee Mike Pompeo, Senator Corey Booker chided the Presbyterian Sunday School teacher for holding to the same view of same-sex marriage that most Americans held just a few years ago. Pompeo, you will be shocked to learn, is against it.
The senator went on to justify his marriage questions by alluding to the persecution of homosexuals in other countries. Here is a part of their exchange, according to The Federalist:
Pompeo: “My respect for every individual, regardless of their sexual orientation, is the same.”
Booker: “You’re going to be secretary of state of the United States at a time that we have an increase of hate speech and hate actions against Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans, Indian Americans. Hate acts are on the increase against these Americans. You’re going to be representing this country and values abroad in places where gay individuals are under untold persecution, face untold violence. Your views do matter. You’re going to be dealing with Muslim states on Muslim issues. I do not necessarily concur that you are putting forth the values of our nation when you believe there are people in our country that are perverse, and where you think that you create different categories of Americans and their obligations when it comes to condemning of violence.”
Elsewhere in his questions, Booker grilled the nominee on his view of Muslims, and on freedom of the press. Apparently unaware that monotheistic religions, by definition, deny one another’s deities; he complained about Pompeo’s comments on those who worship “other gods.”
Absent from Booker’s questioning was any mention of Christians being persecuted, in the most extreme forms, in any of the nations (many of them majority-Muslim nations) about which Booker is so concerned.
It might be understandable that Booker’s not worried about a Christian Secretary of State paying due heed to the persecution of Christians in other nations. It is, however, unfortunate that Booker sees no irony in his expressing concern about the persecution of homosexuals, and Muslims, and even journalists, while suggesting that Christians need not apply to cabinet positions.
This doesn’t surprise anyone who’s been paying attention. Trump appointees Amy Barrett and Russell Vought were similarly questioned about their dangerously unfashionable adherence to traditional Christian beliefs. Beliefs that were par for the course just a few years ago, and are still the norm for millions of Americans.
Let’s be clear that being asked some absurd questions at a confirmation hearing is not the same as being imprisoned or martyred for one’s faith. And, yes, the two previous nominees were confirmed. But what direction are we heading in, when Democratic Senators feel at liberty to so publicly declare widely-held religious views unacceptable? Is this the “Christian privilege” that we’ve been hearing about recently?
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My friend Marjorie Rosenberg has written extensively on that subject.
Every once in a while something is so loony you just have to call bulls**t.
I know it’s not you Joseph.
What, precisely, are you calling loony?
What I take to be Alasdair MacIntyre’s reflections on heterosexuality.
Well for starters, the article is written by Michael W. Hannon. He’s just using the Alasdair MacIntyre quip about facts as a launching point, note that the quotation marks end after the first sentence.
Perhaps a few more paragraphs would help clarify the thrust of the argument:
In other words, the traditional idea that the morality of sexual behavior should be judged by understanding the purpose of sex in the context of marriage was supplanted by the emerging new science of psychology, which labeled some people as “homosexuals” and classified this as a mental disorder. Then later (sometime in the 1970’s I believe) they changed their mind, and decided it was no longer a mental illness after all, but the category persisted as a “sexual orientation” and became a component of identity politics.
This focus on SSM is a red herring – the Secretary of State doesn’t really deal with that.
The Secretary of State will have to deal with countries in the Muslim World on behalf of the US.
So there’s this:
And also this:
How confident are you that he can deal with the Muslim World in a clear headed fashion – unswayed by personal prejudice or bias – no matter what policy the elected President asks him to execute?
Truly.
In what ways have Frank Gaffney and Brigitte Gabriel mischaracterized Islam.
Almost. The correct answer is to summon up great moral indignation and throw back in the Senators’ faces:
If that is not enough, add:
Hehehehe … you said T-Bone …
The ADL nails the issue:
The letter is pretty detailed on this (and other) issues. iow, it documents.
This article at Catholic World Report also speaks to the issue you raise Joseph, and to the issue in the OP.
Katherine Asjes, a mother of six, the wife of a military veteran, a conservative Republican, and a practicing Catholic was rejected for appointment to the Iowa Board of Medicine because of a comment she wrote last year on the post linked to in the following paragraph.
Carl Olson links to an article written by Jim Russell where he goes “back to the beginning of the ideological roots that gave us “homosexuality” and “heterosexuality”” and shows how this has “spawned the chaos we have now”:
As Carl Olson writes:
And as he writes in his 2014 article, Welcome to the Reign of “Gay”:
Is understanding the nature of groups such as CAIR or IIIT or the Muslim Brotherhood a “personal prejudice or bias”? Sharia law is fundamentally incompatible with western democracy yet the West continues to kowtow to the Islamists. Mr. Pompeo is right to be skeptical. He seems to hold views similar to those of Andrew McCarthy in The Grand Jihad:
I agree. That is not an irrational fear of Islam (what the Left labels Islamophobia), it is just seeing things as they are – not prejudice or bias.
Men such as Booker are just pawns for the Islamists and homosexualists – he is the one with the prejudice and bias.
Okay, that may be partially true. Commandments 6-10 have a certain universality, although I have my doubts that some of them could or should be enacted into law. (“Thou shalt not covet.” How do you enforce that?) But it seems to me that Commandments 1-5 cannot really be divorced from one’s belief in God. Tell me where I’m wrong?
What with all those Sharia zones popping up left and right. Point made decisively, Sir.
I don’t think there’s going to be much congruence between gay muslims and orthodox catholics.
Yet somehow there’s congruence on this issue between at least one gay Muslim and the ADL.
Perhaps it isn’t a matter of religion or lack thereof? Just a thought.
(Wait. Asking too much?)
Well, Zafar, I think you’re one of a kind.
Doubtless, and I hope kindly meant (???), but hard too see how it’s relevant.
(Also: Rootless Cosmopolitan and proud of it, man!!!)
Go ahead and mock me, but I’ll stick with what I wrote – it is hard to deny the facts as they are. Your point with your link is lost on me.
It was kindly meant.
I think he’s too unlikable to be elected Prez, but you never know what the American people are going to do next.
Trump was pretty unlikable, too. Or maybe is.
You surprise me.
Extremely! Since you’re now citing your favorite Jews (the ADL is just another left wing organization, btw), I’ll cite mine from last week. Dennis Prager points out that just because conservatives believe leftists are wrong (about just about everything), doesn’t mean we think they should cease to exist or be silenced. We are the “live and let live” bunch. This is why the Left has made such great strides against tolerant conservatism.
Leftists do not understand us because their inclination is to destroy that which doesn’t align with leftism. I can provide a multiplicity of examples — starting on college campuses.
Based on what?
His overall competence and realistic view of the world.
Do you realize, Zafar, that what Corey Booker did in this interrogation is prototypical leftism? It isn’t enough for people to conform to leftist behavior; we must be made to conform in our consciences! It’s domination and bullying of the first order.
How about you give me examples of where Pompeo has behaved unjustly toward Muslims and gays? Let’s start there.
My question was what inaccuracies there were in Gaffney’s and Gabriel’s characterizations of Islam. Calling Gaffney anti-Islam or Gabriel as supposedly peddling anti-Muslim conspiracy theories doesn’t answer my simple question.
That’s part of what makes Booker’s comments so frustrating.
I agree Booker would have looked like less of a Christophobe if he’d just stuck to the questions about Pompeo’s alleged Islamophobia. And I think Pompeo could have defended himself easily enough, if he’d changed his response a little bit.
But are you saying that Booker’s anti-Christian comments are not something Americans should be concerned about?
Booker’s one of the prices we pay for federalism.
Steven Hayward at PowerLine asks, after reading that ridiculous article: Have We Reached Peak Liberalism?
He’s got a tweet from Nate Silver and John Podhoretz, but the best rebuttal comes from Fr. Dwight Longenecker:
Starbuck’s Creepy Infiltration of South Carolina:
Read it all – it is hilarious.