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120 lb. Women Cannot Throw 240 lb. Men Around – in General*
It is a wrong to feed this false notion to young girls. This is basic science. This is politically motivated crap that pours into our daily lives through movies and other fantasies of the leftist variety. However, there are three recent examples of women in movies who have the true grit to physically and psychologically go up against many men and many manly men, too. Below are shown my three favorite women of these real types in the movies recently (but my heart belongs to Brienne of Tarth, middle … click to see why – UPDATED to higher res video).
From Left to Right: Mary Agnes of “Godless,” Brienne of Tarth from “Game of Thrones” and Jane Cannary from “Deadwood.”
Interestingly, the movies above are all TV series and not single movies – also, they are my top three favorite series with the number 1 slot going to “Game of Thrones,” the number 2 to “Deadwood,” and “Godless” is third. I hadn’t considered this until just now, but it makes sense because the writers, actors and the directors all show some common sense and that helps these movies immensely and it’s almost not fair because common sense is in such short supply in Hollywood.
So, with that background to prove that I’m not a misogynist nor a reactionary, let me show you something to cogitate on. Here, I show the weight classes for boxers. You’ll notice in the lower weight classes that the differences considered significant are in the realm of three to five pounds! Now, these movies over the last couple decades foist the notion that with good training in jujitsu or karate that women can “use the other person’s weight and energy against him.” This is true, but there are practical limits and these limits are different for men than women — in general.*
For one thing, there is the weight distribution difference for men versus women. For the same weight, a man will have more weight in his upper body and the woman will have relatively more weight lower than the man – in general.* Second, muscle tone is better in men than women. If you don’t like this explanation, then at least you can agree that if you watch the women in these fantasy movies they are women who don’t sport great muscle tone (but they do look fabulous) – in general.* But, we are asked to believe that they are just well trained in the arts of taking people down and flipping people.
Next, and probably the most ridiculous, is the ability to take a punch. After that is the ability to give a punch. We are constantly expected to believe that a woman can take a punch from a man who outweighs her by 50 pounds or much more. (This is still true in spite of the fact that I know that this is also true for men fighting men in the movies – there should be many more broken noses and more teeth loosened or knocked out.) Just look at those weight class numbers and realize that they come from a lot of experience over the years and they reflect a very important issue – that of weight in fights. It’s considered unfair to have people outclassed in terms of weight and they know what they are talking about. Don’t forget that boxing classes are based on men who are in shape, very fit, and well-built and even then weight is the all-important parameter, more important than height or arm reach or leg length or weight distribution. Men dominate in all of these classes as compared to women.
Our society, our women teachers (teachers are 76 percent women nowadays!) are teaching about girl power all the time now – it’s everywhere you look. Implicitly, this is done at the expense of boys – else why is it being drummed in so much. If they really were as powerful as boys then they wouldn’t spend so much time on propaganda of this sort. Don’t forget that girls are smart, too. Implicit is the idea that they are smarter – than whom, you ask – well how many other categories are there in children in schools these days?
* In general means to convey the request: please don’t come up with anecdotal evidence to dispute a general proposition – instead, argue with the point being made. I have to add this footnote nowadays with all issues of this type.
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To give you an idea of just how dominant men are physically, check out Women’s World Records for track and field; now take a look at World Junior Boys track and field records. In terms of track and field, anything a woman can do – mere boys can do better!
I have always felt that women are inferior physically to the power of men who are usually taller and weigh more. Plus, they just seem to be more amenable to “throwing their weight around” than we do. For that reason, I truly believe we are craftier and more sensitive to who the enemy is. My husband always (almost) deferred to my opinion of people as he knew I was intuitive about who the bad guys were and who the good guys were. Watch a man walk down the street compared to the way a woman does. He owns that sidewalk while she quietly walks to the side avoiding any possibility of confrontation. Ah, except for Italian women who also own the sidewalk.
Brienne of Tarth gets a pass since she’s from a different planet. Who is to say that her species of humanoid didn’t follow a different evolutionary path? Presumably, natural selection would create heartier women when winter can last for decades.
Ackshully, the existence of any petite women in Game of Thrones is probably more unrealistic than the existence of gargantua warrior-women.
No cute girl, however cute, is going to beat up on Jane and throw him over a counter. Unless he wants her to.
And remember what McEnroe said about women tennis players (and how much trouble he got in for saying it):
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-john-mcenroe-serena-williams-tennis-20170625-story.html
No Judgements, some guys like that sorta thing.
That’s one point on which we will not disagree!
One day several years ago my husband and I were sitting at a sidewalk cafe on the Via Veneto watching the people walk by when it suddenly occurred to me that most of the women walked very confidently down the street. I admired them and tried to remember to “walk Italian” when I got back to Seattle. Italian women take no prisoners.
Maybe the Muslim ladies who are groped all the time have a differerent idea.
I like to think I’m well informed but haven’t read anything about Muslim women complaining about being groped. Source?
Raping is worse than groping — why get a titillation like a grope when worse things are on their minds?
To continue on the GOT tangent, it makes perfect sense in the show and the books, that Jaime and Brienne have tremendous chemistry. Jaime has never had a normal relationship with a woman because of his relationship with Cersei. He says you can’t choose who you love and he truly believes it. He’s always figured that Cersei is the only one for him. Eventually, he thinks he can never truly escape Cersei though he does try. Brienne has also never had a normal relationship with a non-relative man because of how she looks. When she does have a true crush and admires a man, he is into men and dies in her arms. So when Jaime and Brienne meet and spend all this crazy time together, well you can be sure their lives change forever.
You can tell I miss discussing GOT. I’m so annoyed we have to wait another year just to finish the series. I just want to be done already.
Well, the Russians might not appreciate being lumped together with the Chinese, and they definitely have a gun culture if you can believe their movies. Even in the Soviet days there were guns everywhere in the movies. Probably it was due to an inadequate gun control program. One guy from Russia explained to me that in Soviet days if you had a gun for hunting you were supposed to join the All-Hunters Union (I suppose where the govt could keep you under control) but there also were guns issued to party officials and these sometimes ended up in the wrong hands (there were a lot of party officials who were issued guns) and also there were a lot of guns that came home with soldiers after the big war.
BTW, another trope of Russian movies is the 120 lb. guy getting the statuesque girl. I suppose it’s harmless. This trope shows up as comic relief in good movies as well as in bad ones.
No, let’s keep discussing. It’s going to end soon (a year). Let’s get all of it discussed to the extreme before it’s over for good.
Breaking Bad was so much fun to discuss. Then it ended. We knew the end. And it wasn’t long before the light went out, because after a short while there was nothing left to discuss.
GoT is still vibrant. Miss no opportunity to start a thread – I’ll talk GoT all night.
I loved Breaking Bad, the more Walter White embraced his new lifestyle as king pin, the more I loved it, and the character.
One TV trope that really needs to go away is the poor unpaid under appreciated civil servant. You know in real life a teacher with cancer would have a gold standard health plan. The only reasons a teacher would really cook meth, would be the same as everyone else who does it. That would have made Walter too human, just a guy underwater on a house he couldn’t afford, or kids in an expensive school taking 6 years to get a BS BA. Saint Walter had fall from grace to make the series good.
The other Trope that I really detest is more common in sitcoms – the pretty wife/ugly dude… Smart wife/dumb guy… I really detest the sit com marriages being psychological warfare targeting the hapless husband.
Meh. Health plan, maybe. But if you’re the only one working or making the living for the family and you’re certain you’re going to die early, you’d want to make sure you left something for the family. That’s why I’d do it. If I were him. Enjoying being a kingpin is just gravy.
Thats true. Could happen to anyone who gets sick. Also thinking that your time was limited, would lessen the deterrence of criminal justice.
Trick question.
There are Russian movies where Communism works.
So Hollywood is Russian?
I’m not familiar with GoT, but places that are extremely cold all the time tend to produce short, munchkin like people instead of gargantua warriors. That’s because it’s advantageous to reduce surface area so you radiate less body heat.
The other tell, is right in the pilot. He’s curious about making meth when he sees the drug bust on TV at Hank’s house, before he had a cancer diagnosis.
They’re certainly stupid enough to believe Russian propaganda.
I know what you mean. People use the exception in an attempt to totally discredit the general rule.
Great post Larry.
I will pick this nit though: the reason there are so many weight classes isn’t because there’s a significant difference in a few pounds. It’s because the boxing organizations realized that if there were more weight classes, there would be more world championship fights. More world championship fights equals more money to the WBO/WBA/etc.
I used to watch boxing Friday nights on ESPN. I didn’t care if they were title fights or not (usually not). However, Pay-Per-View rakes in tons of $$$ for boxing, MMA, and WWF championship events, so a title bout on free TV is a rare treat.
Think polar bears. Think of lowering the ratio of surface area to volume.
That seems to be more the opposite, in many ways. The tallest human populations are in Europe, for the most part, with more of the northern Europeans being on the tall side. Overall, the shortest populations are in Africa.
When I think of Norwegians and Russians, for example, I don’t think “petite.” I think “Vikings” and “Russian Bears.”
Even the Inuit might not be overly tall, but they do tend to be on the hefty side.
On the other hand, when you see aboriginal types in hot areas, you usually find short, skinny folks (with a few outliers like the taller tribes in Africa, who are definitely still on the skinny side, or Samoans, who have to deal with heat loss into water more often).