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Federal Judge Halts Trump’s Executive Action on Immigration
Following a chaotic day of airport protests, taxi work stoppages, and general anger about President Trump’s executive order to temporarily ban immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries, a federal judge in New York has issued an emergency stay. From The Hill:
Published in Domestic Policy, Immigration, LawThe court ruled on a habeas corpus petition filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on behalf of two Iraqi men who were detained at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Friday after Trump’s ban, The Verge reported Saturday night.
Since then both men, Hameed Khalid Darweesh and Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshaw, have been granted entry to the U.S.
The ruling deals with a portion of Trump’s order handed down Friday, which bars Syrian refugees indefinitely and halts the resettlement of all refugees for four months as the administration reviews the vetting process.
Admission will resume only after vetting has been deemed “adequate” by the secretary of State, the secretary of Homeland Security and Director of National Intelligence.
How many data points do you need before you have confidence in your generalization? 2? 3?
The language in the EO carefully qualifies which kind of aliens:
The judge is trying to erroneously characterize the language.
And that’s the problem. No one doubts Trump ability to issue these orders, but it might be unconstitutional to apply them to permanent residents.
Testy, testy. I get the feeling Jamie doesn’t like me.
Oh Jamie. That’s been an issue for years. First I’ve heard you mention it.
The White House stated that this is the correct interpretation. Is the White House erroneously characterizing it’s own Executive Order?
Because Crassus trusts him to figure out the deets; that’s what trusted subordinates do. the man on the horse gestures broadly; the functionaries interpret what he’s pointing at.
Because you do; statists require compliance. Remind me to tell you about the time our family business almost got fined by OSHA for not putting a book that said, in essence, “don’t drink gasoline” in the proper location in the warehouse.
I submit that you don’t read everything I’ve ever written or heard everything I’ve ever said.
How about telling that story during the next Ricochet Podcast?
We are not statists. We accept that our policies must be implemented within the framework of the Constitution, and we are not trying to destroy the Constitution.
Also, it seems like Bannon gets a lot of responsibility for a guy who is just an advisor.
Because I got burned the other day by believing the usual outrage (Trump gagging EPA employees in that case) I think I’ll wait a couple of days before rushing to judgment on this one.
LOL, good one.
Where has the White House made that correction? I can’t find it in any search.
Are you laughing at the Bannon part or the Constitution part.
I’m guessing the Constitution part.
Note:
Kindly refrain from imputing bad faith to another member of Ricochet or being gratuitously insulting.You are
disingenuouslyquoting Sect. 5(g) of the EO, which read in relevant part:(g) It is the policy of the executive branch that, to the extent permitted by law and as practicable, State and local jurisdictions be granted a role in the process of determining the placement or settlement in their jurisdictions of aliens eligible to be admitted to the United States as refugees.
The problem with the EO is Section 3, which does not have the limiting language you are offering here.
You are a veritable Barry Zuckekorn in terms of legal acumen.http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-greencard-idUSKBN15C0KX
They have standing because they are directly affected by the order. They are being detained and are challenging the detention itself. How could they not have standing?
OK, let’s look at Section 3 reference to alines.
Section 3, the pertinent sentences:
“Suspend entry” means people coming in. Not people who are already here.
Is that a correction or an elaboration? Strikes me as an elaboration. They haven’t changed the EO.
No one said anything about Greencard holders already in the United States.
And I hope you know that I, and so many Americans, irrespective of party politics WANT to you to have this Great American Life.
I am glad you are here, and hope more people who value what America truly offers can come here and participate (even thought today things have gone quite mad!)
I’m sorry for this fiasco, and the fear it must cause for those people caught in the middle of it, being stuck in a place they are fleeing. I pray that every person they deal with treats them with kindness and respect and gets them home quickly, and safely.
Some people are going to end up very disappointed. At this moment I am not sure who those losing groups are and will watch this all play out. This is a bucket o popcorn per day the next few months.
Natch. Regardless, this has been a problem for years. I heard Marines talking years ago about thinking the best way to get their interpreters into the US, as bloody-well promised by the blasted State Department, was to get them to Mexico, then sneak them across the border.
Now it’s a big deal? When I didn’t hear about it years ago when those Marines were trying to comply with promises made ? Cry me a river.
NOTE; It would be nice to get an alert when our comments are edited. I removed the (redacted) and replaced with what are – to me – COC compliant words. All caps (and yes, in fact, I was yelling when I typed it) have been replaced by bold. Please be aware I am still yelling.
Could they say that is what they meant, like in the fine/tax debate on the ACA?
;) just kidding.
I agree with your point, those two sections don’t have the exact same language. But there IS a provision for exceptions, in both section 3 & 5, right?
Where’s Val Jarrett when we need her.
Trying is the first step to faliure.
Trump probably made the order apply to her, out of spite.
So, will you finally admit it covers Green Card holders seeking re-entry into the U.S.?
Sure. But you will admit that those are not broadly available to Green Card holders, right? I mean, they require case-by-case determinations by State or DHS.
yes, and as some have said, some details are missing. It is embarrassing, but it is government. I don’t like that part at all. It seems a terrible way to treat our guests.
When I read the article, about how the EO affects those with a green card, it says they have to go to the Consulate or Embassy. That sucks. A. Lot.
I do bet that part gets overruled, unless there is some major flaw in the vetting that got the individual a green card. (and isn’t that possible, and maybe even the reason this is part of the EO?)
If I worked for Trump, I would advise him, that those with a green card should have a perfunctory review, but there should be a US official to meet them at the airport to complete what is necessary. Because part of being great again is treating guests properly.