Flyover Country, Episode 66 – All the Lonely People

 

For our first podcast of the new year, episode 66, we are joined by Ricochet member Titus Techera, who has also written for National Review Online and The Federalist. Titus is a Romanian, who has recently spent time in the US, and our discussion revolves around the American psyche and our particular current brand of politics.

[note: I apologize for the terrible audio, which makes Ryan appear significantly louder than Terry and Titus. We will be sure to fix this before our next podcast!]

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  1. MLH Inactive
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    you misspelled Techera. And Titus doesn’t speak with much volume: are sure it’s a technical issue?

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  2. Titus Techera Contributor
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    MLH (View Comment):
    you misspelled Techera.

    Heh! & the embedding doesn’t work. He’ll fix it…

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  3. blank generation member Inactive
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    Goodness.  People are so tetchy around here.

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  4. Arahant Member
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    blank generation member (View Comment):
    Goodness. People are so tetchy around here.

    No, it’s T-e-c-h-e-r-a! :D

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  5. Judge Mental Member
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    I upvoted this.  Hopefully it will get on the main feed.  That way, the podcast will become more famous and you’ll be able to book some quality guests.

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  6. Arahant Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    I upvoted this. Hopefully it will get on the main feed. That way, the podcast will become more famous and you’ll be able to book some quality guests.

    Wait, could that happen? In that case, I’ll “Like” it before he fixes the link so I can listen.

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  7. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Also, I’ll add I’m ok with not being the loudest guy in the room.

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  8. Arahant Member
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    If you put this much in a URL bar, it comes up:

    https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/304870301&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false

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  9. MLH Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    I upvoted this. Hopefully it will get on the main feed. That way, the podcast will become more famous and you’ll be able to book some quality guests.

    Wait, could that happen? In that case, I’ll “Like” it before he fixes the link so I can listen.

    already up at itunes.

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  10. Judge Mental Member
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    Ryan, have you ever tried doing an edit on your OP after you publish it?

    There are a couple of types of HTML, that if you put them in a comment, will display as raw HTML.  But if you edit the comment and hit post again, it renders properly.  I wonder if the same is true for an OP.

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  11. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Hmm. The crazy Romanian said a mouthful starting at 41:54. I listened to that part multiple times because it sounds like a decent explanation to the increase in female suicides.

     

     

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  12. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    MLH (View Comment):
    you misspelled Techera. And Titus doesn’t speak with much volume: are sure it’s a technical issue?

    Whoops! That was a typo. I’ll fix when I get to a computer.

    The audio is always like that until it gets fixed. But the ed.s and max are super good about fixing it!

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  13. blank generation member Inactive
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    Such generational differences going on here I can’t even start.

    Rico is the young ones now.  I will just retire into the sunset.

    Pnin is so old fashioned.  Would Humbert Humbert’s behavior even raise one brow?

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  14. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    Ryan, have you ever tried doing an edit on your OP after you publish it?

    There are a couple of types of HTML, that if you put them in a comment, will display as raw HTML. But if you edit the comment and hit post again, it renders properly. I wonder if the same is true for an OP.

    That used to work on ricochet 2.0. something about the updated system and now I don’t have the right permissions to do it.

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  15. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    blank generation member (View Comment):
    Such generational differences going on here I can’t even start.

    Rico is the young ones now. I will just retire into the sunset.

    Pnin is so old fashioned. Would Humbert Humbert’s behavior even raise one brow?

    Hah, well, we’re talking about modern developments that have contributed to national character. I’m not exactly in tune with the newest generation, and I’m not very far removed. Fortunately, all the truths in life are timeless…

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  16. Arahant Member
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    Where did the link go?

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  17. TheRightNurse Member
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    Dear lord.  Ryan says what I was thinking exactly.  It’s unfortunate Titus can’t say his name right.  It’s such a strong and Shakespearean name.  Unfortunate.  Low energy.  Sad!

     

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  18. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):
    Where did the link go?

    Maybe someone is working to figure out how to run it through a voice de-emodulation filter so I don’t break everyone’s eardrums.

    Funny thing, it was like that with the last episode and I turned my volume down, but obviously it didn’t take. Maybe some default setting in Skype. Stupid Skype.

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  19. Kaladin Inactive
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    Titus, we are friends now.  I hope you didn’t spend too much time stressing over how long it took me to accept your request!

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  20. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    (I ran another compressor on the audio and re-uploaded the file.  Hopefully that’s a little better!)

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  21. MLH Inactive
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    Ryan M(cPherson) (View Comment):
    (I ran another compressor on the audio and re-uploaded the file. Hopefully that’s a little better!)

    Does this mean that I  should re-download it from iTunes?

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  22. Flizzo Stizzo Member
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    Terry: “I’m not a Trump voter.”

    I fixed it for you.

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  23. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    MLH (View Comment):

    Ryan M(cPherson) (View Comment):
    (I ran another compressor on the audio and re-uploaded the file. Hopefully that’s a little better!)

    Does this mean that I should re-download it from iTunes?

    You could… I honestly don’t know if it made any difference.

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  24. DocJay Inactive
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    Next time you’re on Titus please pretty please say,”what about Moose and Squirrel”

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  25. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Titus is the current rise in suicide in America related to social isolation?

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  26. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Titus is the current rise in suicide in America related to social isolation?

    Yes, of course!

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  27. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Remember not to take me for a man who makes predictions. I’m trying to describe social conditions & the psychological effects they have on people. I don’t have the interest or the powers to get precise specific information to predict any particular outcome.

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  28. Icarus213 Coolidge
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    I really liked this dialogue.  Big upvote to Titus’ point near the end that Americans are typically quite content and happy in their private lives (family, friends, jobs), and very discontent and unhappy about public life.  I have long thought that this is because public life is such an abstraction that can have a lot of irrational fears projected onto it without much consequence to the individual.

    One disagreement with Titus: I think he tends to imply that certain problems or trends are somehow uniquely American, when a lot of these things are simply either universal to contemporary life, or at least common in the Western world.  Perhaps he doesn’t mean to give this impression.

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  29. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Thanks, Mr. Icarus. I think I have to answer that last point–other Americans make it, too. I’ve got three different answers depending on the audience, but they go together.

    1. Americans don’t get how unique they are, partly because they can’t tell how different other peoples, they just do not recognize massive differences between peoples, especially where it counts–character, habits of mind & habits of body…
    2. Americans do not sense that there is something unique in them because they have such an influence on the world. Yeah, I know there were rock bands in Romania in 1969, imitating the British invasion, but that does not make rock a Romanian thing. It’s not quite British either–it belongs to America ultimately. Not just because all those British kids grew up on American rocknroll & blues. But because there was no other world for them to live in than confused-about-freedom-Sixties-America. America spreads all sorts of influence around the world, because it is the most productive democracy, but these things do not necessarily belong anywhere else, & they tend to cover up differences between Americans & other peoples, differences that are still are, if you know where to look. Baseball cannot make Japanese people Americans…
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  30. Titus Techera Contributor
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    3. Americans have an individualizing tendency, not just this universalizing tendency. They don’t want to see big social facts, because it’s an attack on their individual freedom. Understanding, in a certain sense, does endanger freedom: Not just because the more you know, the less you think all sorts of fantasies are possible or real; but more seriously, because understanding requires causal chains of reasoning that leave little or no room for choice.

    So political conversation always enacts the fundamental conflict between reason & agreement, between necessity & choice, between philosophy & politics. It’s not easy to manage, but it’s worthwhile trying.

    I get a partial sense of my success as a thinker from throwing curveballs at Ryan & Terry: you can see they’re surprised at some of the stuff they hear coming out of my mouth, but a lot of it does make sense. It’s not definitive answers & I don’t have a treatise on America, but I think I’m going in the right direction.

    & I think people should join me in trying to make sense of what’s typically American, the sort of social facts that bring Americans together, not just in success, but also in failure, because we’re now in a time of serious confusion about what it means to be American. The typical moral-solution, our partisans are American, the other partisans are not!–that’s not going to work, it implies that other people are source of failure, suffering, & anger. Ourselves–innocent…

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