First They Came for My Bacon

 

bacon-flagI feel like I’m being trolled. This announcement has all the ingredients to make me furious: it’s a “health” message in the New York Times, from a UN-ish Non-Governmental Busybody, aimed at governments around the world who interest themselves with their citizens’ eating habits.

In other words, it’s the perfect storm of nonsense. Plus, they’re trying to take away our bacon.

From the NYTimes:

Eating processed meat, like hot dogs and corned beef, can raise the risk in humans of getting colon cancer, a report by the World Health Organization said on Monday.

There was also some evidence that eating red meat, including beef, pork and lamb, can cause cancer in the colon, prostate or pancreas, the W.H.O.’s International Agency for Research on Cancer said in the report.

File this in the “Not Interested Department.” And I don’t care about this, either:

The findings, which are meant to help governments make dietary recommendations, linked increased risks of developing certain cancers to the amount of meat consumed.

Okay, joking aside, I still have a hard time wondering why the WHO is spending any money and any brain cycles worrying about this, when there are so many other World Health Crises for the World Health Organization to deal with, like malaria and all sorts of horrible diseases. Those, of course, are in Africa or somewhere else, far from my charcuterie plate, miles and miles from my bacon.

It reminds me of a joke I read last week:

Normal Person: Women as young as 11 are being sold into slavery, sexually abused, and murdered with impunity in the Middle East!

Feminist: Yes, but there aren’t enough women on the Facebook board of directors.

They keep missing the forest for the bacon-scented trees.

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  1. jonsouth Inactive
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    If ours is a world where bacon, sausages, salami and ham are killers… then I don’t want to live.

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  2. Mike H Inactive
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    Here’s a public service announcement: Uncured bacon (really, cured by other means) is just as delicious, and is probably actually healthy. I’ve found it at Target and Trader Joe’s so far.

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  3. Quinn the Eskimo Member
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    jonsouth:If ours is a world where bacon, sausages, salami and ham are killers… then I don’t want to live.

    People who eat only vegetables die also.  But do they really ever live?

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  4. Dean Murphy Member
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    Mike H:Here’s a public service announcement: Uncured bacon (really, cured by other means) is just as delicious, and is probably actually healthy. I’ve found it at Target and Trader Joe’s so far.

    thanks for the tip!  I’ve been looking for it at King Soopers.

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  5. Doug Watt Member
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    Rob all I can tell you is that when I was in college free alcohol was poetry. Alcohol free makes me want to weep. Bacon free, and Prosciutto free is just too depressing too think about.

    Regards

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  6. Del Mar Dave Member
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    What’s really scary is the impending Internet of Things, where every one of our actions (and later, every thought) will be tracked by somebody.  Government, maybe, ya think?  And if we eat too much [fill in the blank] or drink too much [fill in the blank] and fail to exercise enough, we’ll be cut off from single-payer healthcare, hauled before a death panel and sent home.

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  7. Songwriter Inactive
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    Z in MT:My grandfather has eaten bacon almost everyday of his life. He had a heart attack and triple bypass surgery >20 years ago. They put him on statins and lipitor, and he never changed his bacon habit. He is now 88 years old.

    My father’s father was born in 1880 and died in 1980. Every day he ate bacon, fried eggs, and biscuits with molasses for breakfast.

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  8. Cat III Member
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    The second amendment was written as a bulwark against tyrants who would meddle with our meat. If Uncle Sam thinks he can nab food off my dinner plate he’s got another think coming. Brothers, sisters, grab your assault rifle and fire up the grill. Wars a’ comin’. A baconless America is not America. Make the founders proud.

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  9. J. D. Fitzpatrick Member
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    wilber forge:

    BrentB67:If we are to cut back on bacon should we export what we have to Syria or Saudi Arabia?

    Bacon delivery via Cruise missles ?

    Or Cruz missiles. :)

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  10. TKC1101 Member
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    Take my bacon? Fighting words…..

    When they send the blue helmet troopers into our neighborhoods to seize pork products out of the hands of innocent children then, then, then we will know we have been betrayed. America will be lost.

    We need to fight all forms of bacon control. Build the hot dog cannons. Prepare the deep fryers to pour from the battlements. Stockpile the lard grenades.  Sharpen the meat shredders.

    They will know they have been in a fight. And right tasty too.

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  11. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Guess what I’m making for breakfast this morning?

    Mmmmmmm, bacon!

    (I do it the easy way, on a cookie sheet in the oven at 400… then pour off the hot grease into a safe container like an old tin can and wash the cookie sheet while it’s still hot…. so easy, so tasty…)

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  12. Pilgrim Coolidge
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad: (I do it the easy way, on a cookie sheet in the oven at 400… then pour off the hot grease into a safe container like an old tin can and wash the cookie sheet while it’s still hot…. so easy, so tasty…)

    No, fry eggs in some of the hot grease, and make white gravy with the rest.

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  13. John Penfold Member
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    I’m willing to volunteer for the clinical trial.   Include pastrami while you’re putting the package together.

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  14. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Pilgrim:

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad: (I do it the easy way, on a cookie sheet in the oven at 400… then pour off the hot grease into a safe container like an old tin can and wash the cookie sheet while it’s still hot…. so easy, so tasty…)

    No, fry eggs in some of the hot grease, and make white gravy with the rest.

    Well, I actually save all the grease in a mason jar, not an old tin can, and we had scrambled eggs a la my nine year old son. Papa Toad does not like his eggs in bacon grease so we don’t do it that way here at Toad Hall.

    But I do like your idea. It reminds me of my favorite breakfast place in the Bronx. My sister and I used to get breakfast there after Sunday Mass… mmmmm….

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  15. Statistician1 Inactive
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    I was going to write a long witty response to Rob’s excellent post, but I decided to eat a BLT instead.

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  16. Front Seat Cat Member
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    I’ll have to read this later because I ‘m on my way to the kitchen to make bacon and eggs.

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  17. Owen Findy Inactive
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    mezzrow:Bacon is a terrible thing to waste…

    And, a waist is a terrible thing to mind.

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  18. Bob L Member
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    Did anyone actually read deep into this report?  I’m curious to know how many pages in I’d have to go until the phrase “climate change” comes up.

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  19. Duane Oyen Member
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    Tim H.:Tuck, could you give us a run-down of the study with some more details?I’ve so far just seen my vegan friend post this on Facebook.She was initially skeptical but later decided the evidence was good enough for her.I suspect my standards will be higher.

    Tim, when researchers are reporting data for clinical trials of cancer drugs, any effect that is not at least double (in other words, 100%) is thrown out because the base is small, so the impact is even smaller- in other words, miniscule.

    The effects here are reported as +18% or +17% depending on whether the subject is processed or red meat (per consistent 50g or 100g dosing, respectively).  In other words, the effect appears to be lower than that of beer (a big news story from a couple of years ago) or having an abortion (which is close to 50% increase in risk, but, because of the basic small risk, not considered very risky; this has never been and will never be a big news story, for obvious reasons).

    It looks as though this is just another part of the anti-red meat campaign being waged because cows are Bad For Our Environment, Because They Use A Lot Of Water And Worsen Climate Change.

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  20. Pilgrim Coolidge
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    Duane Oyen: looks as though this is just another part of the anti-red meat campaign being waged because cows are Bad For Our Environment, Because They Use A Lot Of Water And Worsen Climate Change.

    And Fart.

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  21. Judge Mental Member
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    Pilgrim:

    Duane Oyen: looks as though this is just another part of the anti-red meat campaign being waged because cows are Bad For Our Environment, Because They Use A Lot Of Water And Worsen Climate Change.

    And Fart.

    There is another way to go.  Instead of eliminating all of the domesticated animals we could kill all the wild animals instead.

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  22. Stad Coolidge
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    Rob Long: Plus, they’re trying to take away our bacon.

    If this doesn’t get us out of the UN, nothing will . . .

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  23. Dean Murphy Member
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    Judge Mental:

    Pilgrim:

    Duane Oyen: looks as though this is just another part of the anti-red meat campaign being waged because cows are Bad For Our Environment, Because They Use A Lot Of Water And Worsen Climate Change.

    And Fart.

    There is another way to go. Instead of eliminating all of the domesticated animals we could kill all the wild animals instead.

    Yes!  Why should all of these unregulated creatures be allowed to roam freely, eliminating on natural plants and eating each other!?

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  24. Ray Kujawa Coolidge
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    I found this in a search of the effect of the decision on commodity meat prices.

    October 26th: World Health Organization Issues Warning About Red Meat

    Chicago Mercantile Exchange live cattle futures closed lower on Monday, following last Friday’s cash prices that fell short of expectations and worries over potential consumer response to news about a possible tie to red meat and cancer risk, traders said.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) warned that eating processed meats can lead to bowel cancer in humans, and red meat is a likely cause of the disease.

    Spot October closed 1.475 cents per lb lower at 139.550, December down 1.400 cents to 142.000.

    Some investors were skittish about WHO’s announcement.

    But Cassandra Fish, author of industry blog The Beef, said she does not believe the organization’s decision will impact U.S. beef consumption based on numerous recommendations in past years that have been “walked back” or reversed.

    “Consumers are weary and wary of this type of rhetoric at this point and most fall into the ‘consume in moderation’ mode supported by common sense,” she added.

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  25. Tuck Inactive
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    Stad:

    Rob Long: Plus, they’re trying to take away our bacon.

    If this doesn’t get us out of the UN, nothing will . . .

    I’ll go with nothing will.

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  26. Tuck Inactive
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    OK, for the folks who asked for a take-down of the WHO study, this one by a fellow I respect a lot should do the trick:

    Red Meat & Cancer—Again! Will It Ever Stop?

    Well, here we go again. Each year, like clockwork, the conventional medical establishment mounts an attack against red meat….

    …the association between red meat and cancer is not strong (i.e. comparing bacon to cigarettes is absurd), and in fact is often not distinguishable from chance….

    …That means you have about a 1 in 33,000 chance of developing bowel cancer from eating cured and processed meats….

    …The IARC says you can enjoy your yoga class, but don’t breathe air (class 1 carcinogen), sit near a sun-filled window (class 1), apply aloe vera (class 2B) if you get a sunburn, drink wine or coffee (class 1 and class 2B), or eat grilled food (class 2A). …

    I ate steak for lunch, as I do most days.

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  27. Judge Mental Member
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    Tuck:OK, for the folks who asked for a take-down of the WHO study, this one by a fellow I respect a lot should do the trick:

    Red Meat & Cancer—Again! Will It Ever Stop?

    Well, here we go again. Each year, like clockwork, the conventional medical establishment mounts an attack against red meat….

    …the association between red meat and cancer is not strong (i.e. comparing bacon to cigarettes is absurd), and in fact is often not distinguishable from chance….

    …That means you have about a 1 in 33,000 chance of developing bowel cancer from eating cured and processed meats….

    …The IARC says you can enjoy your yoga class, but don’t breathe air (class 1 carcinogen), sit near a sun-filled window (class 1), apply aloe vera (class 2B) if you get a sunburn, drink wine or coffee (class 1 and class 2B), or eat grilled food (class 2A). …

    I ate steak for lunch, as I do most days.

    Was it a grilled steak?  Did  you eat it sitting near a sun-filled window, while breathing air?  I say live on the edge.

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  28. Tuck Inactive
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    From a noted biochemist who has looked into the meat=cancer question:

    “The population was again broken up into five groups or quintiles. The lower numbered quintiles are for the lowest consumption of red meat. Looking at all cause mortality, there were 5,314 deaths [in lowest quintile] and when you go up to quintile 05, highest red meat consumption, there are 3,752 deaths. What? The more red meat, the lower the death rate? Isn’t that the opposite of the conclusion of the paper? And the next line has [calculated] relative risk which now goes the other way: higher risk with higher meat consumption. What’s going on? As near as one can guess, “correcting” for the confounders changed the direction….”

    Lies, damn lies, and statistics.  Data is science, adjustments are art, at best; fraud, at worst.

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  29. Tuck Inactive
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    OK, here’s what you were all waiting for (from a 1998 paper):

    “…A bacon-based diet appears to protect against carcinogenesis, perhaps because bacon contains 5% NaCl and increased the rats’ water intake.”

    So eat your bacon.  It’s for the children!

    (Btw, these rats were injected with “azoxymethane … a potent carcinogen used to induce colon cancer in rats and mice.” So the bacon was literally protecting them.)

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  30. MLH Inactive
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    Tuck:OK, here’s what you were all waiting for (from a 1998 paper):

    “…A bacon-based diet appears to protect against carcinogenesis, perhaps because bacon contains 5% NaCl and increased the rats’ water intake.”

    So eat your bacon. It’s for the children!

    (Btw, these rats were injected with “a … a potent carcinogen used to induce colon cancer in rats and mice.” So the bacon was literally protecting them.)

    Were they wrapped in the bacon?

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