Carly for the Win

 

Here’s the thing about politicians who try to be funny: It’s generally better not to do it at all than to do it badly. The one thing that’s worse than a stiff is a guy awkwardly fumbling his way towards an underwhelming punchline. Now, there are occasional exceptions. Ted Cruz’s recent attempts at Simpsons impersonations for BuzzFeed were dad-after-four-beers bad, but they at least proved that Cruz, who’s burdened by the male equivalent of a syndrome that can’t be described under Ricochet’s Code of Conduct, is capable of lightening up. But Senator Cruz ought to be taking lessons from Carly Fiorina. Check out her effort at BuzzFeed:

Am I the only one who finds Carly harder to resist every day?

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  1. user_998621 Member
    user_998621
    @Liz

    She:

    Casey:

    She: What Carly Fiorina has, besides her brains, which are considerable, are poise, perfect articulation, and an impeccable sense of timing. I don’t think any of these things is uncommon among women in the business world

    I think those things are terribly uncommon period.

    In the general population I think you’re right. Maybe I should have said among successful women in the business world.

    What flabbergasts me is how scarce those resources (any of them) seem to be among the political class of either sex. And how men and women of laughable ability who wouldn’t last five minutes in the corporate world become senators and congressmen-for-life once they are elected the first time. And no one seems to mind.

    Everything She said.

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  2. Pencilvania Inactive
    Pencilvania
    @Pencilvania

    I’ve gotten ‘talked over’ just like in the commercial many many times, so that rang the funny bell for me, though it came with a sting of remembrance.

    I like Carly, like her drive.  I have problems with her voice, which I know sounds stupid but unfortunately for women it’s an issue in public speaking. She tends to have the gravelly undertone thing going on, especially at the end of sentences – I really noticed it when she was on the flagship podcast.  I get that tone involuntarily in my own voice when I’m tired, and it makes her sound un-fired-up. She shouldn’t go for a higher register, but she ought to train to smooth out the gravel.

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  3. user_189393 Inactive
    user_189393
    @BarkhaHerman

    I found it funny.  And I like her campaigning style.  However, She is not libertarian enough for my taste.  Granted, I have voted for worse.

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  4. user_1065645 Member
    user_1065645
    @DaveSussman

    EThompson:The other interesting tidbit about her that might be interesting in the “gender war” is that her extremely successful husband quit his job to raise their children when she was promoted to CEO of HP.

    Just like “Julia“… oh wait.  Carly succeeded without help from the government.

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  5. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    “Sock it to me?”

    • #35
  6. Ricochet Member
    Ricochet
    @TempTime

    Pencilvania, Interesting that you noted the effect of “voice” on our reactions to people, in this case Fiorina’s voice (btw, I am deliberately using her surname instead of her first name just to keep the little things on parity when speaking about candidates; when the Press uses first names for females, and surnames for males, it seems to me like a subtle form of dismissiveness, so I’m a little sensitive about it) — back to topic — interesting to me because I so wanted to like Palin even more than I did but her voice drove me crazy.  I used to shout at the TV whenever I heard her speaking “Use your full voice; stop talking at the top of your throat; You are a full grown person now!”  Crazy I know.  Amazing the power of voice.

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  7. DrewInWisconsin Member
    DrewInWisconsin
    @DrewInWisconsin

    TempTime:

    CLARK SUMMERS:RE: “Am I the only one who finds Carly harder to resist every day?”

    No, there’s two of us. You and I. But I’m reasonably sure that that’s about it among the Ricochetois.

    No. Make that three of us.

    She’s in my top three. Can I count?

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  8. Tuck Inactive
    Tuck
    @Tuck

    It is funny, but she should probably keep her day job, whatever that is. :)

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  9. Asquared Inactive
    Asquared
    @ASquared

    TempTime: (btw, I am deliberately using her surname instead of her first name just to keep the little things on parity when speaking about candidates; when the Press uses first names for females, and surnames for males, it seems to me like a subtle form of dismissiveness, so I’m a little sensitive about it)

    They use “Jeb” for the Republican nominee with the last name Bush.  We all use “W” to refer to his older brother who used to be President.  Hillary chose to run as Hillary to avoid the obvious political baggage associated with her last name.

    Oh, and Ms Fiorina’s website is titled carlyforpresident.com.  (Jeb’s site is Jeb2016.com).  Jeb’s site is Jeb2016.com

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    Hillary[1]

    Carly_Fiorina_for_President_Logo[1]

    image[1]

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  10. PHCheese Inactive
    PHCheese
    @PHCheese

    Mrs. Cheese and I love Carly. We would vote for her in a heartbeat.

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  11. Franco Member
    Franco
    @Franco

    I like Carly, but this was not funny. We are supposed to gain insight into what women have to deal with in the workplace, but most of these jokes don’t make sense. “How do you walk in those shoes?” directed at a guy wearing sneakers? Women wearing high heels can’t walk well and the question is valid, if perhaps a kind of attack.
    Most of the scenes were unrealistic since the modern workplace forbids these kind of interactions against females.

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  12. Casey Inactive
    Casey
    @Casey

    Carly is not a comedian.

    She is this, however:

    For the win.

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  13. FightinInPhilly Coolidge
    FightinInPhilly
    @FightinInPhilly

    There are way to many guys commenting that this wasn’t funny. Methinks they doth protest too much. It was kind of funny. I’d give it a B.

    The reason it was modestly funny (for those of you wanting an explanation) is that it wasn’t coming from a place of anger or bitterness. It rang true because those of us in office situations have heard (or possibly made) these comments. Not out of malice or stifling repression, but out of basic dopiness when speaking with fellow professionals.

    As far as observing women who can’t walk in heels, it’s an amusing observational skill my wife has taught me, and it provides endless (internal) laughs. I would never say anything out loud.

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  14. Pencilvania Inactive
    Pencilvania
    @Pencilvania

    Casey:Carly is not a comedian.

    She is this, however:

    For the win.

    OK, that was awesome. That was awesome.

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  15. Casey Inactive
    Casey
    @Casey

    FightinInPhilly:There are way to many guys commenting that this wasn’t funny. Methinks they doth protest too much. It was kind of funny. I’d give it a B.

    No, F.

    It was amusing.  Cute maybe.  Silly.  But not funny.

    There was this guy once who wrote a book called Set Up, Joke, Set up, Joke.  His name escapes me at the moment but the title says it all.  That’s how you make funny.

    Here we have a black and white title screen with a scenario and then a random quote with no reaction.

    If you are laughing it is because of something you thought of, not because of what was in the video.  There is no set up, joke anywhere to be found.

    I say ban it.

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  16. user_82762 Inactive
    user_82762
    @JamesGawron

    Casey:Carly is not a comedian.

    She is this, however:

    For the win.

    Bingo!!

    Regards,

    Jim

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  17. user_1065645 Member
    user_1065645
    @DaveSussman

    Poor Katie didn’t get her extremist narrative for DNC ads. hehehe.

    Casey:Carly is not a comedian.

    She is this, however:

    For the win.

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  18. EThompson Member
    EThompson
    @

    Poor Katie didn’t get her extremist narrative for DNC ads. hehehe.

    And poor Katie isn’t going to get to determine this election’s outcome. She’s out of her league dealing with The Carly.

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  19. Ricochet Inactive
    Ricochet
    @ValdtheMisspeller

    FightinInPhilly:…

    The reason it was modestly funny (for those of you wanting an explanation) is that it wasn’t coming from a place of anger or bitterness.

    If you have to explain why something is funny, it’s not.

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  20. FightinInPhilly Coolidge
    FightinInPhilly
    @FightinInPhilly

    Casey:

    FightinInPhilly:There are way to many guys commenting that this wasn’t funny. Methinks they doth protest too much. It was kind of funny. I’d give it a B.

    No, F.

    It was amusing. Cute maybe. Silly. But not funny.

    There was this guy once who wrote a book called Set Up, Joke, Set up, Joke. His name escapes me at the moment but the title says it all. That’s how you make funny.

    Here we have a black and white title screen with a scenario and then a random quote with no reaction.

    If you are laughing it is because of something you thought of, not because of what was in the video. There is no set up, joke anywhere to be found.

    I say ban it.

    Loved the book. But there is no rule that funny must include a formal punchline. To say otherwise is to rule out a lot of observational humor, half of Monty Python, and basic silliness. Unless of course, you think that the reason that the Ministry of Silly Walks wasn’t funny because there wasn’t a punchline. In which case, we’ll just have to disagree.

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  21. Ricochet Member
    Ricochet
    @DadDog

    I think the first two or three quips in the spot were funny, and made the point very well.

    After that, however, it was overkill.  It reminded me of that situation where you tease your spouse about something that’s entirely tease-worthy, and, at first, they laugh and appreciate it, seeing the truth in the humor.  But, then you don’t let up; you keep coming back with new and different teases . . . and then you wonder why you’re sleeping on the couch tonight.

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  22. user_137118 Member
    user_137118
    @DeanMurphy

    TempTime:

    CLARK SUMMERS:RE: “Am I the only one who finds Carly harder to resist every day?”

    No, there’s two of us. You and I. But I’m reasonably sure that that’s about it among the Ricochetois.

    No. Make that three of us. I like Fiorina because of how she presents herself, and what she says. She is smart and professional; she just happens to be a woman. I’ve liked her since I saw her interview with the Yahoo “news” Madam who used to be on TV in the mornings, and whose name I have happily forgotten

    I really like Ms Fiorina; but I can’t like her too much in public because my wife *used* to work for HP…

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  23. TG Thatcher
    TG
    @TG

    This is a marvelous interview!  Thanks for posting it.  (Go, Carly!)

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  24. Casey Inactive
    Casey
    @Casey

    FightinInPhilly:

    Loved the book. But there is no rule that funny must include a formal punchline.

    Actually yes there is.  It is essential.

    The funny walks are set up. Initially, the set up is simply standard walking and the punch is silly walking.  But then we introduce the ministry to up the ante.  And then we have faux serious ministry discussion with the punch of a silly walk.

    If we had 4 minutes of silly walking interspersed with black and white title screens of the names of the walks it would not have been funny.

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  25. FightinInPhilly Coolidge
    FightinInPhilly
    @FightinInPhilly

    Casey:

    FightinInPhilly:

    Loved the book. But there is no rule that funny must include a formal punchline.

    Actually yes there is. It is essential.

    The funny walks are set up. Initially, the set up is simply standard walking and the punch is silly walking. But then we introduce the ministry to up the ante. And then we have faux serious ministry discussion with the punch of a silly walk.

    If we had 4 minutes of silly walking interspersed with black and white title screens of the names of the walks it would not have been funny.

    Are you saying you didn’t laugh at all until the punchline? Look, I’m not saying Carly is funnier than Cleese. Or even officially funny. But the bit was a B in the world of politician humor. Chris Rock isn’t going to work into his next set but thats not the goal of a bit like this- it’s to connect with a voter who might not otherwise have known about you. And I say well done.

    How about if I put it this way- I get a chuckle out of your avatar every time I see it- and there is no punchline.

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  26. EThompson Member
    EThompson
    @

    billy:The more I see of Carly Fiorina, the more disgusted I am with the voters of California.

    Really, Barbara Boxer was the better choice?

    Carly was running as a Republican; that was enough to terminate her possibilities everywhere but in OC. I was living there at that time and even within this GOP stronghold, there were certain communities (Laguna Beach for example) that voted D.

    She knew she wasn’t going to win this one (as did Meg Whitman during her gubernatorial race) but made her arguments and carried on despite daunting health issues.

    She is a warrior.

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  27. Casey Inactive
    Casey
    @Casey

    FightinInPhilly:

    Are you saying you didn’t laugh at all until the punchline? Look, I’m not saying Carly is funnier than Cleese. Or even officially funny. But the bit was a B in the world of politician humor. Chris Rock isn’t going to work into his next set but thats not the goal of a bit like this- it’s to connect with a voter who might not otherwise have known about you. And I say well done.

    How about if I put it this way- I get a chuckle out of your avatar every time I see it- and there is no punchline.

    Well, the avatar is EJ’s so I can’t take credit for that.  But the avatar is the punchline.

    EJ’s stuff is just that.  There is real life (set up) and his images mix it all up (joke).

    Here’s the thing, funny people are funny and other people aren’t.  Now there’s nothing wrong with not being funny (in fact, there’s probably something very right about it) but when people who aren’t funny try to be funny it clunks really bad.  Funny isn’t fake-able.

    Better that she never did this.

    Now Rudy… that’s gold.

    rudy

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  28. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    Troy Senik, Ed.: Am I the only one who finds Carly harder to resist every day?

    If we are driven towards the “need” for a first woman President, it ain’t Hillary.

    CARLY is the one . . .

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  29. FightinInPhilly Coolidge
    FightinInPhilly
    @FightinInPhilly

    Casey:

    FightinInPhilly:

    How about if I put it this way- I get a chuckle out of your avatar every time I see it- and there is no punchline.

    Well, the avatar is EJ’s so I can’t take credit for that. But the avatar is the punchline.

    EJ’s stuff is just that. There is real life (set up) and his images mix it all up (joke).

    Here’s the thing, funny people are funny and other people aren’t. Now there’s nothing wrong with not being funny (in fact, there’s probably something very right about it) but when people who aren’t funny try to be funny it clunks really bad. Funny isn’t fake-able.

    Better that she never did this.

    Now Rudy… that’s gold.

    rudy

    OK, uncle. I’m going to the bar.

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  30. Songwriter Inactive
    Songwriter
    @user_19450

    CLARK SUMMERS:RE: “Am I the only one who finds Carly harder to resist every day?”

    No, there’s two of us. You and I. But I’m reasonably sure that that’s about it among the Ricochetois.

    Wrong, Clark. I’ve been promoting Carly here for a month or more now. We are not alone here at Ricochet.

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