If I Was Emperor…

 

585px-Map_of_ScandinaviaApparently, some Swedes are worried that Putin has his eye on Scandinavia for a future playground. I will let Annika fill y’all in later.
Though I am fairly sure that Putin is not done helping poor lost Russians in neighboring states to secure their due right to rejoin the empire, I find it difficult to imagine an invasion of Sweden before an invasion of Estonia or Latvia. I suspect that the order of conquest will follow the path of least resistance. But perhaps not.

In any case, can we agree that would-be conquerors everywhere probably perceive Obama’s remaining years in office as an ideal time for action?

If so, might they take bigger bites than they otherwise would because of the limited window of opportunity?

Or, if you were emperor, would you let Obama’s presidency play out peacefully, in hope that America will weaken and withdraw further… and that the next American President will also be a Democrat?

Image Credit: “Map of Scandinavia” by 000peter – Own work. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons.

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  1. Sandy Member
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    Matty Van:Ah, Sandy, you have made my day. I didn’t really know anyone was paying that close attention to my various ramblings. Interesting question about cities and suburbs. Unfortunately I don’t have any really good answer right now.

    As for early American imperial inclinations, yes there were many, and far from trivial. I would certainly be intersested in a rewind of history that allowed for a non-expansionary original republic to see how that might have played out. But, sadly, we were expansionary. Still, I’ll take 1898 as the huge turning point. Before that we were expansionary and imperialistic but into a mostly empty continent and no further. In fact, despite the desires of some, we didn’t take land with significant population from Mexico in 1848.

    As for a country pursuing its own interests… that normally is acceptable in a large way only within its borders or possibly very close to its borders, at least to dedicated anti-imperialists. Empires, though, have deep interests far from home that they are forced to defend. That America believes it has to do that could actually be called a piece of evidence that America is, in fact, an empire.

    Thanks for explaining your position more fully.

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  2. user_1938 Inactive
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    Perhaps political theorists need a new term, Matty, for an empire without an emperor. Though modern Presidents certainly have exaggerated power to initiate (if not declare) wars, many of our early conquests seem to have enjoyed widespread support from Congress and citizens.

    I don’t disagree that the US continues to exhibit some traits of empires. I doubt the world’s foremost superpower can, in any era, be anything other than an empire of sorts. Our power and affluence derive largely from our deep involvement in world affairs.

    James Of England: As AIG implies, UKIP are profoundly pro-Putin, who returns the favor by supporting them through Russia Today. I’m not sure that the division sowed is much of a problem, but the odds of them renewing strength, as opposed to advocating surrender, are very low.

    This is sad and fascinating. Can you expound on why UKIP members perceive Putin as an ally?

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  3. AIG Inactive
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    iWc: AIG, you seem to view level-headed analysis as panic

    I don’t see the “level headedness” in your analysis. Sorry.

    iWc: AIG, you are clearly unaware of the facts if you believe Europe has anywhere near these numbers of aircraft actually in flight condition. Here is a NYT article on Germany. Another example: The helicopter division is also in bad disrepair: only seven of the 67 CH-53 transport helicopters are in top condition – that includes those currently used in Afghanistan. A similar fate befell another model. link. Don’t believe it? Consider the source: This is what the Russians are telling themselves. Now why would they go out of their way to point out German military limitations?

    That NYT article is nonsense, for many reasons. The first reason being that it is common in most air forces in the world that much of the equipment is non-operational for some period of time. Especially when they are experiencing a lot of new equipment coming in (Eurofighters) and a lot of equipment going out (Tornados).

    You think even 10% of the Russian air force is anywhere near “operational”???

    iWc: Um, hello?! Who had a treaty guaranteeing Ukraine’s territorial integrity?

    No one. Read the treaty. NATO had zero obligations to Ukraine.

    iWc: Are you aware that Estonia is in NATO? Are you aware that plenty of sources suggest that Estonia is next?

    There’s plenty of sources suggesting the world will end next Tuesday. Doesn’t mean it will.

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  4. AIG Inactive
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    Aaron Miller: They are willing to augment American forces against distant armies with arsenals that pale in comparison with Russia’s. That doesn’t mean they will commit strongly to defending Eastern European “allies” (with whom they share little culturally or economically) against a thuggish Russia with nuclear attack subs, tanks, bombers, and the power to cut off gas in the winter.

    Besides the fact that they have already done so, like in Kosovo? Or besides the fact that they are in NATO? Or besides the fact that they actually took the lead in operations such as Libya?

    Aaron Miller: The basic premise of the Cold War still applies. No one wants to start a war between nuclear powers. I suspect that many leaders would allow a great many conquests and horrors before gathering to courage to start that war.

    That’s right. Pretty sure several European nations are nuclear powers, as is the US. Does this logic not apply to Russia?

    James Of England: As AIG implies, UKIP are profoundly pro-Putin, who returns the favor by supporting them through Russia Today.

    And that’s the kicker here! There’s claims being thrown around that the “leftist” (and many of them are) European governments have given up on military and on confronting Russia etc etc.

    When in fact it seems to be precisely the opposite, with all these ultra-right wing (most of them are actually pretty left-wing parties, economically…and certainly nothing to do with “left vs right” from the American perspective)…actually being pro-Russian.

    We see the same thing in the US with the Ron Paul types of “libertarians” who are knee-deep in pro-Russian propaganda.

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  5. AIG Inactive
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    Aaron Miller: This is sad and fascinating. Can you expound on why UKIP members perceive Putin as an ally?

    Because they are nationalistic parties. Nationalistic parties in Europe tend to support each other, even when their ideologies are that those “other guys” are inferior to them.

    Being nationalistic parties, they also mostly have economic policies aimed at “protectionism” (what would more generally be considered…left-wing…here in the US), and to a large extent, anti-Americanism.

    And of course, it is likely Putin provides quite a bit of their financing.

    Even more “sophisticated” American observers get fooled by these parties, thinking that they are somehow comparable to the Republicans here in the US. Most are not even close.

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