CDC and FDA Blast DeSantis and Ladapo—Again

 

If anyone disagrees with the FDA or the CDC, those agencies will punish those who speak out and do their best to discredit them. Both of these agencies already condemned Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo and Governor DeSantis, and they are having to take their licks again, but given the increased pushback that the federal government is getting, Florida is even more adamant about its condemnations of the feds. This was the reaction, in spite of the even-handed comments  of SG Ladapo:

‘With the amount of immunity that’s in the community — with virtually every walking human being having some degree of immunity, and with the questions we have about safety and about effectiveness, especially about safety, my judgment is that it’s not a good decision for young people and for people who are not at high risk at this point in the pandemic,’ he said.

Two medical doctors have challenged Ladapo about his credibility:

Previous guidance by Ladapo about Covid-19 vaccine safety has been widely rejected by the medical community. Daniel Salmon, director of the Institute for Vaccine Safety at Johns Hopkins University, said Wednesday it appeared that Ladapo and the others at the roundtable were selectively highlighting data to show problems with the new boosters.

‘In general, they’re cherry-picking data and facts and science,’ Salmon said. “And I think that they’re there, because they don’t want to recommend this vaccine for Florida.’

Is Salmon confused about Dr. Ladapo’s criticism? Does he think that Ladapo is rejecting the new vaccine out of spite? And when people use the “cherry-picking” criticism, you can often be confident that the evidence referenced might actually be accurate.

The other absurd and irrational response to Ladapo came from Jason Salemi, an epidemiology professor at University of South Florida College of Public Health. He claims, for one, that people under 65 are still at risk of death from Covid-19. He neglects to say how high the risk is, because it would damage his credibility. He also said:

‘Equipping ourselves with and implementing mitigation measures can result in considerably less severe illness, less long Covid, and less mortality, all with little impact on our day-to-day lives,’ Salemi wrote in an email. ‘So, there is clearly a need.’

The facts are, unfortunately for Salemi, that we are already experiencing much less severe illness; I suspect he has no data on long Covid, and death rates have dropped significantly since the virus appeared. But when you create your own facts, you can say anything you wish.

Governor DeSantis also continues to be attacked by the CDC and FDA; for one, he refuses to recommend vaccines for children under five. He has also recommended that the Florida legislature prohibit mandatory school mask mandates, and that bars be prohibited from requiring that employees get the vaccine.

Another misleading comment came from Dr. William Schaffner at Vanderbilt University:

‘COVID continues to be one of the 10 leading causes of death,’ Schaffner said. ‘We can keep two thoughts in our mind at the same time. Yes, it is true that children are less seriously affected than, for example, senior citizens.’

He continued, ‘However, although they are less affected, it doesn’t mean they’re unaffected. Indeed, they are infected severely enough.’

Schaffner advised parents who are concerned to directly speak to their children’s pediatricians about the COVID-19 vaccines.

Unfortunately for Dr. Schaffner, Covid is not listed as one of the ten leading causes of death, even as a sub-category; it appears this article collected its data from the CDC, which also does not include Covid in that list. Regarding children’s infection with Covid, I wonder what is their being infected “severely enough?” The only wise suggestion he offered (if a parent trusts her pediatrician) is to check with that doctor regarding vaccination for children.

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Given the information put out by credible medical sources against the vaccine, the lack of large-scale Covid testing by Big Pharma, and the unwillingness of public health organizations to challenge the CDC and FDA, the Florida Department of Health pushed back on the federal agencies:

‘The response from the federal government is just another redundant display of the same apathetic talking point of ‘safe and effective,’ a spokesperson said in a statement. ‘Googling their fact sheets would have achieved the same result. While the Feds gaslight the American public, Florida pushes for the truth.’

The statement continued, ‘Three inquiries remain unanswered: 1. Access to raw patient-level data to allow for unbiased research. 2. Adequate attention surrounding the risks detected by numerous researchers around the world. 3. Public transparency from the CDC, FDA, and Big Pharma.’

Until Florida gets some answers, it will continue to fight back.

P.S. Watch the Feds push back even more with DeSantis running for President.

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  1. Bob Thompson Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    Yes, I’ve noticed that as your MO.

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    Unsk (View Comment):
    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    People have tried over the last few years, but you always shut them down.

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):
    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    People have tried over the last few years, but you always shut them down.

    I wonder if there is any evidence for that accusation, or if this is another of the usual.

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  4. The Reticulator Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

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    Unsk (View Comment):
    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    Yes, I’ve noticed that as your MO.

    Thank you. It’s good to receive recognition for my work.

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  5. Bob Thompson Member
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    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    People have tried over the last few years, but you always shut them down.

    I wonder if there is any evidence for that accusation, or if this is another of the usual.

    For some things it is more important for individuals to do the necessary research themselves in order to gain the knowledge and awareness than for them to just be provided a link.

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

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    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    People have tried over the last few years, but you always shut them down.

    I wonder if there is any evidence for that accusation, or if this is another of the usual.

    For some things it is more important for individuals to do the necessary research themselves in order to gain the knowledge and awareness than for them to just be provided a link.

    I accuse Drew of being a CDC provocateur. No I don’t have a link. People can do their own research on it.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    People have tried over the last few years, but you always shut them down.

    I wonder if there is any evidence for that accusation, or if this is another of the usual.

    For some things it is more important for individuals to do the necessary research themselves in order to gain the knowledge and awareness than for them to just be provided a link.

    I think I’d go with “I’m sorry that I apparently know more about it than you, but that’s not my fault.”

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  8. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I think this line of “exchange” isn’t going anywhere. Anyone ready to move on?

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  9. The Reticulator Member
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    I think this line of “exchange” isn’t going anywhere. Anyone ready to move on?

    Not before telling you that this information in your OP is why I favor DeSantis.

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  10. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    db25db (View Comment):

    I had the much more prevalent yet much less discussed ‘short covid’. It lasted a couple days and then I got over it.

    But how do you and I know we got the “short covid”??

    Sure it lasted but a few days, and was almost unnoticeable.

    But eventually we both will die, hopefully later rather than sooner.

    By then Pharma might have so much control over every aspect of life that our death certificates will be stamped “Death due to Covid.”

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  11. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    It is hardly only the Epoch Times.

    A court ruled that Pfizer had to do major data dumps on the 8th of each month, rather than waiting out the requested for 75 years.

    Due to those researchers who poured through the data dumps, it was discovered that Pfizer’s clinical trials were riddled with fraud. For instance, just the initial design of the clinical trials was a set up eliminating the more negative results of the jabs from being included.

    For instance, due to the results that Pfizer accepted could only involve trial participants who had gotten two jabs, obviously anyone who was injured in a serious manner or who died, would not get jab two. So then those results would not be included in the tally of adv results and/or deaths.

    This fact alone makes the clinical trials a farce.

    Dr Ryan Cole discusses a partial review of just one of the Pfizer dumps in under 3 mins:

    https://rumble.com/vyn5uw-dr.-ryan-cole-pfizer-data-dump-reveals-absolute-scientific-fraud.html

    Not only does Cole mention some quite  important stats on the injury statistics that the fraudulent trials ignored, he also points out the most important legal principle:

    Due to the 1986 Vax Act, all the US  vax companies received an immunity from legal liability, such that they are not required to pay out for deaths or injuries.

    However if it is discovered that the vax company or companies knew prior to release of the vaccine products, that there was an extreme likelihood of specific injuries, but they chose to release said products anyway, then they lose that immunity and can be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    This is just one implication of the data dumps – one among many. Moderna now faces the same problems, right? As whistleblowers and company documents indict that company as well.

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  12. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

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    Unsk (View Comment):
    The approvals of the VAX were based upon large scale testing that was fraudulent and ignored many problems. The Epoch Times has had too many articles on this to count.

    Ah, the Epoch Times has articles on the subject. Well, that settles it for sure, even if nobody has read those articles.

    What does reading those articles have to do with whether large scale testing was effective as reported by the big Pharma companies? We do know there are facts going unreported because of government/media censorship.

    Got me. Maybe if someone read them they’d share the information with us.

    Please read though my reply #71 when you have the time.

    Also feel free to visit my ricochet blog, stories as listed here:

    Ricochet off CJ blog
    Cov vaccine related:
    https://ricochet.com/1416908/published-paper-from-australia-summarizes-how-the-mrna-vaxxes-for-covid-presented-more-risk-than-benefit/

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    Then there is Ed Dowd’s statistical analysis of excessive fatalities coinciding with COV vax release and mandates:

    https://ricochet.com/1338257/we-can-continue-on-with-greed-massive-corruption-oppose-that-and-go-forward-with-wisdom/

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    ICAN’s lawsuit re: vax injuries & deaths:
    https://ricochet.com/1317949/by-this-friday-the-cdc-must-reveal-the-data-it-has-already-re-covid-vax-injuries-and-deaths/

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    Law firm gains 10 million dollar plus settlement for health employees illegal firing over COV vaxxes:
    https://ricochet.com/1292908/is-this-chicago-based-lawsuit-settlement-to-end-the-employersdenial-for-religious-exemptions-for-vaccine-mandates/

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    Tucker Carlson interviews Dr Markary re: children being given The COVID jabs:
    https://ricochet.com/1286245/watch-this-before-it-is-gone-for-good-tucker-carlsons-guest-dr-makary-on-how-disturbed-us-agency-health-employees-are-with-pfizer-jabs-for-our-youngest-kids/
    From the above article, two pertinent paragraphs:
    Tucker’s introduction to the subject of this injectable medical experiment includes his laying out a clearly warped set of “clinical test results.” These pathetic results state on the one hand that from results among the subset of 2 year olds in the clinical trial, that the child who gets the Pfizer jab will be facing a 90% smaller chance of getting COVID, while at the same time risking a 350% plus chance of coming down with COVID.

    Any time a clinical trial ends up with such mind boggling contradictory results, it is an indication that the trial was garbage. (Pfizer’s clinical trials for their jabs were fraudulent back when the scope of the trials focused on whether or not the jabs would have efficacy and safety for adults. So how the public can expect anything better with regards to our infants and toddlers through five year olds?)

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    Photo of Thrombotic vasculopathy, Clot Injury moderna vax related

    https://ricochet.com/1281800/coincidence-or-not-one-picture-worth-ten-thousand-words/

    More in Reply Part 2

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  13. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Part Two:

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    https://ricochet.com/1270867/coincidence-has-become-the-major-cause-of-death-among-americans-of-all-ages-who-have-been-injected/

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    https://ricochet.com/1266812/victory-in-new-york-state-against-vaccine-mandates-data-base-collection-bill/

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    Hillsdale College has Scott Atlas in to debunk liar Anthony Fauci

    https://ricochet.com/1132984/hillsdale-college-brings-forth-dr-scott-atlas-to-undo-the-big-misconceptions-about-the-covid-infection-as-presented-to-the-public-in-2020/

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    https://ricochet.com/1129517/boom-study-21st-of-jan-carried-out-by-mccullough-others-shows-the-impact-of-adverse-effects-of-mrna-cov-19-vaxxes-that-could-affect-billions-of-people/

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    Note that only one of these is an opinion piece – the other articles all relate to doctors, researchers, scientists and legitimate statistical analysts, who have become the heavy weights on the independent side of the aisle. (As opposed to the science-y  experts swayed by funding from either Fauci & US government grants or Big Pharma or Bill Gates.)

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  14. The Reticulator Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    A court ruled that Pfizer had to do major data dumps on the 8th of each month, rather than waiting out the requested for 75 years.

    I am vaguely aware of some court ruling on transparency.  More transparency is good.  But that doesn’t prove fraud in the testing or in the testing protocol, does it?   

    Due to those researchers who poured through the data dumps, it was discovered that Pfizer’s clinical trials were riddled with fraud. For instance, just the initial design of the clinical trials was a set up eliminating the more negative results of the jabs from being included.

    Is this about accepting all the raw data in the VAERS database, or about something else unconnected to VAERS?  (I thank you for taking the conversation in a more specific direction, by the way, and would like to continue to get more specific.)

    For instance, due to the results that Pfizer accepted could only involve trial participants who had gotten two jabs, obviously anyone who was injured in a serious manner or who died, would not get jab two. So then those results would not be included in the tally of adv results and/or deaths.

    That would be interesting.  If someone died in a car accident after the first shot, they obviously would not be included in the test results.  Do we have actual reports of persons who died of a possible reaction to the first shot who were not included in the results?  (Even if it was only a remote possibility.) Something like that would be a more serious omission or defect in the testing protocol.   

     

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  15. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    A court ruled that Pfizer had to do major data dumps on the 8th of each month, rather than waiting out the requested for 75 years.

    R’s concern # 1: I am vaguely aware of some court ruling on transparencySNIP

    Due to those researchers who poured through the data dumps, it was discovered that Pfizer’s clinical trials were riddled with fraud. For instance, just the initial design of the clinical trials was a set up eliminating the more negative results of the jabs from being included.

    R’s concern #2: Is this about accepting all the raw data in the VAERS database, or about something else unconnected to VAERS? SNIP

    For instance, due to the results that Pfizer accepted could only involve trial participants who had gotten two jabs, obviously anyone who was injured in a serious manner or who died, would not get jab two. So then those results would not be included in the tally SNIP

    R’s concern #3:SNIP  If someone died in a car accident after the first shot, they obviously would not be included in the test results. Do we have actual reports of persons who died of a possible reaction to the first shot who were not included in the results? SNIP

    I will address your concern #2 first, as it doesn’t require a citation.

    The data dump which the court order forced  upon Pfizer  has no direct relationship to VAERS.

    VAERS is a system that was created after the 1986 Vax Act stipulated that there needed to be a way for the vaccine-injured to file a case against  the US government, who was designated by the Vax Act as the acting  party who would make the injured whole, or somewhat whole,  monetarily speaking, or else compensate the family of the vax-injured individual died.

    The VAERS data base  has no relationship to the Pfizer corporate papers on its clinical trials for the COV vaccine. The court ordered Pfizer to release its clinical trials and its emails of executives and employees. It is from these dumps that various researchers discovered that the trials were fraudulent, and that various types of COV vax injuries were issues that Pfizer execs and employees knew all about prior to releasing the products.

    The only indirect connection is that early on, families & individuals who sought monetary compensation for a clinical trial vax-injured person did see to it that  the individual’s experience was entered into VAERS. Early on, the afflicted adult individual or child had no way of knowing that in the future they may be able to go after Pfizer itself, so the required paperwork was submitted into the data base.

    It takes years, often a decade, for the VAERS-entered case to be heard in a special vaccine court, so there is little danger of someone receiving both the government compensation and a Pfizer lawsuit compensation.

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  16. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    A court ruled that Pfizer had to do major data dumps on the 8th of each month, rather than waiting out the requested for 75 years.

    Concern #1: I am vaguely aware of some court ruling on transparency. More transparency is good. But that doesn’t prove fraud in the testing or in the testing protocol, does it?

    Due to those researchers who poured through the data dumps, it was discovered that Pfizer’s clinical trials were riddled with fraud. For instance, just the initial design of the clinical trials was a set up eliminating the more negative results of the jabs from being included.

    Concern #2:SNIP  (Answered in #75)

    Concern #3: That would be interesting. If someone died in a car accident after the first shot, they obviously would not be included in the test results. Do we have actual reports of persons who died of a possible reaction to the first shot who were not included in the results? (Even if it was only a remote possibility.) Something like that would be a more serious omission or defect in the testing protocol.

    Concern #1: I am vaguely aware of some court ruling on transparency. More transparency is good. But that doesn’t prove fraud in the testing or in the testing protocol, does it?

    My response:  Naomi Wolf gave a presentation after her team of 3,000 credentialed researchers poured through the Pfizer documents which had been exposed to public scrutiny on account of the court order.

    This presentation occurred about one year ago. (Vid link is at the end of this text.)

    Among issues she brings forward: Her presentation offered up the information regarding how Pfizer knew prior to release of its COV vaccines that there would be cases of myocarditis affecting young males, including teenagers, after being injected with the vaccine.

    She also discusses the lower dosages for different age groups, and how inadequate the categorizations are. So a 90 lb 11 year old girl gets the same dosage as a 200 lb 17 yr old male.

    Pfizer saw high rates of neurological problems, brain hemorrhages, and clots in the clinical trials. Yet still Pfizer had no qualms about releasing the product without any mentions of their findings.

    One thing that is so concerning is that the FTC received papers indicating the dangers, when Pfizer filed certain paperwork. Except  America’s health agencies, like the FDA or CDC either did not have access to the warnings or else did have that access but remain  so much under the total control  of the pharmaceutical industry that the agencies withheld the info from the public.

    It is a lengthy video but the presentation covers many bases:

    https://rumble.com/v15cw0n-naomi-wolf-summary-of-horrific-discoveries-from-pfizer-data-dump.html

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