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How Much Longer Do We Have to Put Up with This Garbage?
From Charles C.W. Cooke (why does that name sound familiar?), in today’s NRO:
“In the wake of the federal indictment against Trump — which, unlike the Bragg nonsense, is absolutely devastating — I’ll ask again: Aren’t you all tired of this crap? Don’t you want to get past it? Don’t you want to do some politics for a change? How much longer do we all have to put up with this garbage?
We’re now in year eight of Donald Trump’s nonsense, and he’s getting worse, not better. Trump lost in 2020. Then he tried to rewrite the Twelfth Amendment and the Electoral Count Act of 1887 to steal the election. Then he interfered in the 2022 primaries, with disastrous political consequences. Now he’s been indicted for stealing highly classified documents — which, yes, is not the same as a conviction, and which should not be confused with one, but which has clearly happened as a result of his total disregard for the rules. What, in Heaven’s name, is the case for keeping him around? He’s broken his oath of office. He’s repeatedly revealed himself to be completely unfit for the presidency. He’s shown he can’t win. Politicians are servants. Trump isn’t serving anything or anyone. Why is he still in the conversation?”
That is my question. I’m a life-long conservative (Reagan branch), and am so tired of all the Trump garbage that I may choose to vote “Mickey Mouse” in 2024. I long for the days when politics was politics instead of a clown circus.
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Colombo,
On Ricochet, if we disagree with what someone says, we just say so, and why we disagree. We attack the opinion, not the person, and we especially don’t insult him by assigning him bad motives, with absolutely no evidence.
There are how many declared candidates for the nomination now? Six major and six minor? As Charles asks, “Don’t you want to do some politics for a change?”
Yes, let’s do some politics without the Biden Administration chiming in. Jack Smith and Merrick Garland have no place in the Republican primaries. Let’s get the debates started and see which way the electorate moves. Trump and his people are loving these indictments as a strategy.
The debunking is beginning.
https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1667372630997860352?s=61&t=UKLH2-24egSn4VVwl0Ofqw
I must have missed something because I don’t see an attack or an indictment of motives in the quoted passage. And it is a reasonable question.
Well hell yeah. I’m sure many are “tired of this crap”
Get used to it, son. Doesn’t matter who the R candidate is. The Ds have a winning strategy – why should they change? Whomever the 2024 candidate is will be portrayed as a peeing, puppy killing, wife cheating, tax avoiding, document stealing, friend of Putin.
You might be tired of it, Mr Cooke. The Ds aren’t. Stop blaming DJT and grow a pair.
@jimmcconnell
For many people who still support Trump, the DoJ has been so egregious and unfair that they see no reason to trust the indictment. This is the problem about torching your institutions – all their credibility washes away. The Democrats are aiming to destroy any competition, and they have clearly engaged in corrupt behavior to do so before.
I do not plan to vote for Trump in the primary, but there is no reason I would let Biden win another term. Biden is worse than Trump in every possible way imaginable. Can you look at 2016-2020 and say that Biden’s years were in any way an improvement? Biden quite likely molested his daughter and engaged in rampant corruption.
THat’s not what Charlie wrote. He ascribes all the blame to Trump.
It’s like in Muslim countries if a woman is raped then she is deemed “unclean.” Trump has been “raped” repeatedly by the Left and Charlie thinks Trump is unclean. Charlie is literally blaming the victim.
Moderator Note:
Personal attacks are a violation of the CoC.[Redacted]
This argument is absolutely insane.
I think Ron DeSantis will be more effective in destroying the deep state. I’ve thought that way for some time – check my posts. Do you think having a primary election is evil? Is it impossible for someone to be a better candidate than Trump? The dude is not flawless and perfect.
Read my actual post – I was saying that I thought the indictment was political garbage and did not change my views. If someone tried to assassinate Nikki Haley, I would be outraged and demand punishment, but I wouldn’t decide to vote for her in the primary. I also was arguing that we have to vote for Trump if it is Trump vs. Biden, because the post author said he was considering not voting in the general.
A great deal of the “garbage” wasn’t actually real but rather elaborate Potemkin villages assembled by anti-Trump groups.
And as far as “getting back to politics” goes, it seems to me that those days were largely a UniParty arguing how far Left we’d go and how fast. For all his faults – and they are many – he genuinely fought for We The People. He didn’t go-along-to-get-along, There is much more Reagan to Trump than there ever was to any of the Bush’s or McCain or Romney.
Unfortunately, I think that’s a fair point. I don’t think Trump can win in ‘24 and it has nothing to do with cheating. After 7 years of demonization, no one unites and animates the Left like Trump. They’ll crawl over broken glass to vote against Trump. Whether they are right or wrong, I think they want to run against Trump in ‘24. And that explains the indictments. It forces Reps to circle the wagons around Trump. It virtually guarantees Trump is the nominee.
That’s your right to think.
I think that a vote for anyone other than Trump is a vote for accepting that the deep state gets to decide who we vote for.
I assume that, unlike @painterjean, you’re mature enough to not censor me when you disagree with me.
I can’t remember what I wrote here, but it was not a personal attack. @painterjean just disagrees with me about Trump, so she is censoring me.
I can’t remember what you wrote in its entirety either, but I applaud your use of ‘stooge’ – a word that needs to come back!
So true. :)
Ricochet has been down this path before in 2016. Trump has a solid base of supporters. That’s a two-edged sword because he also energizes a base of supporters that will vote against him in a general election. The Republican Party is the minority party so Trump would have to get the majority of independent voters, and some votes from middle of the road Dems to win a general election.
One warning sign for Republicans is that Trump’s popularity does not carry down ballot candidates into office. The Big Red Wave that was promised never happened. There is a very slim Republican majority in the House, and a Republican minority in the Senate after the last midterm elections.
In 2016, Republicans carried the House, the Senate, several new governorships, many state legislatures, and the White House. I’ve always attributed that mega win to the surprisingly high ObamaCare bills that went out that October.
That was the Big Red Wave. That the Republican leadership, upon achieving it, immediately went to work to get rid of Donald Trump rather than working on the problems plaguing Americans is not the fault of Donald Trump, in my opinion.
Four years later, it was “Why bother? They all lie and no one cares” back to normal Democrats.
That’s a consolation?
@jon I demand that you reign in @painterjean or whomever redacted my comment. I assume Omega is mature enough to not redact my comment just because I called him a stooge of the deep state. It’s my opinion that Omega, and anyone not voting for Trump in the primaries, is a stooge of the deep state.
Did I spend 7 years being over-worked and under-paid to have my opinions redacted by petty moderators who simply disagree with me politically? Do you know how many times members called me names, or were mad at me, or implied nefarious things about me? Plenty of times.
This is ridiculous!
I think that if you don’t vote for Trump in the primary that you are a stooge of the deep state. I.E. you accept that the deep state gets to decide who you are allowed to vote for.
Trump was not on the ballot in 2022, if that’s what you’re referring to. The GOP did not give voters much reason to vote for them. Mitch McConnell spent money attacking the conservative candidate in Alaska, in a race where Republican was going to win, instead of attacking Maggie Hassan in New Hampshire, to give just one example.
Calling anyone a stooge is a personal attack and a violation of the CoC. Disagree with Omega all you want, but if you continue to name-call you will be redacted again.
I think that not voting for Trump in the primary makes one a stooge for the deep state. How about that, Jean? Am I allowed to have opinions that are different than yours?
In the 2018 elections, the Democrats, led by Nancy Pelosi, won control of the House. The Democrats gained a net total of 41 seats from the total number of seats they had won in the 2016 elections. The 41-seat gain was the Democrats’ largest gain of House seats since the post-Watergate 1974 elections, when they picked up 49 seats. This was the first time since 1954 that Democrats flipped a chamber of Congress in a Republican president’s first midterm. It’s also the last time the Democrats won a house seat in Utah or Oklahoma.
The Big Red Wave in 2022 that was predicted never came to pass. With Trump it’s always about Trump. Democrats put up a united front at election time. Republicans do not, although Republicans do excel at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
That perception allows the left to cheat to high heaven, with a plausible cover even if their voters don’t actually turn out.
Friend,
Our community’s rules prohibit personal attacks.
I hope that you will decide to start following the rule and stay, to become a valuable contributor here.
But if you refuse, with regret we have to say, please go.
Trump was also not on the ballot in 2018 and the GOP gave voters little reason to vote for them. They refused to build the wall, they refused to repeal Obamacare, many of them participated in the Russia Collusion hoax.
That’s just your opinion. In my opinion Trump puts the country over himself. Trump went all over the country campaigning for Republicans in 2022.
OK, Moe.
You made the right decision for yourself and others!